[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Texting and Driving (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 10/25/2013 8:48:03 AM EDT
| I actually think it is a worse problem than drinking and driving just because so many people do it. You can always tell the ones who are doing too, they are going slower than the flow and are swerving. I am to the point where I honk at them they piss me off so much. |
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Penalties for texting while driving need to match penalties for DUI. When you have people texting and killing as many people as drunks, then we should be concerned and have equal penalties. Do you think being caught texting and driving three separate times should be something with a mandatory prison sentence? |
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Quoted: I actually think it is a worse problem than drinking and driving just because so many people do it. You can always tell the ones who are doing too, they are going slower than the flow and are swerving. I am to the point where I honk at them they piss me off so much. +1 slow asses on the left lane or drifting to the left and right are 90% texters when i pass them.
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? Dude, I have no idea! As stated there are already laws prohibiting it and they clearly do not work so additional bans and prohibitions will not solve it. The other problem is that what would prevent a driver from doing it would also prevent a passenger so that won't work either. I guess it just comes down to personal responsibility. I do agree that if you cause an accident because of texting, the penalty should actually be more harsh than a DUI. |
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+1 slow asses on the left lane or drifting to the left and right are 90% texters when i pass them. Quoted:
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I actually think it is a worse problem than drinking and driving just because so many people do it. You can always tell the ones who are doing too, they are going slower than the flow and are swerving. I am to the point where I honk at them they piss me off so much. +1 slow asses on the left lane or drifting to the left and right are 90% texters when i pass them. I am usually heading your way when I encounter them, I am sure we see the same offenders. |
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Dude, I have no idea! As stated there are already laws prohibiting it and they clearly do not work so additional bans and prohibitions will not solve it. The other problem is that what would prevent a driver from doing it would also prevent a passenger so that won't work either. I guess it just comes down to personal responsibility. I do agree that if you cause an accident because of texting, the penalty should actually be more harsh than a DUI. Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? Dude, I have no idea! As stated there are already laws prohibiting it and they clearly do not work so additional bans and prohibitions will not solve it. The other problem is that what would prevent a driver from doing it would also prevent a passenger so that won't work either. I guess it just comes down to personal responsibility. I do agree that if you cause an accident because of texting, the penalty should actually be more harsh than a DUI. You had me nodding my head in agreement up until that part. That's when I said, "wat?" |
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Your sample size must suck?
I used to drive for a living (sorta) - 8-9,000 miles a month. I had a blackberry with raised keys. I would drive on the interstate 4-6hrs a day and text or email absolutely non stop. Your senses are heightened b/c you know youre doing something wrong and dangerous. I've been told by multiple people that I'm a better driver while texting. I could keep eyes on the road and knees on the wheel. We're not all 16yr old girls, some of us know what we're doing. You sound like a liberal. Replace 'texting while driving' with 'guns' and see how your argument sounds ETA: 5spd manual truck |
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Simple solution, text feature on phone stops working over 5mph, end of an epidemic problem. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Simple solution, only 5 rnds in the magazine Simple solution, 1 drink maximum Simple solution, governors set at 25mph Think about what you sound like Quit hating freedom |
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You had me nodding my head in agreement up until that part. That's when I said, "wat?" Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? Dude, I have no idea! As stated there are already laws prohibiting it and they clearly do not work so additional bans and prohibitions will not solve it. The other problem is that what would prevent a driver from doing it would also prevent a passenger so that won't work either. I guess it just comes down to personal responsibility. I do agree that if you cause an accident because of texting, the penalty should actually be more harsh than a DUI. You had me nodding my head in agreement up until that part. That's when I said, "wat?" Sober texting while driving you are willingly grossly endangering those around you. You can get a DUI for 2 beers and not be near as dangerous. You are actually choosing to not look where you are pointing your deadly weapon, yet you would lose your shit if some pointed a loaded gun at you. What is the difference? |
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I'll admit I did it plenty. I just bought a manual. Don't even touch the phone in the car anymore. Obvious solution is more people buy manuals. I also used to, but I quit when I got a smart phone. With my dumb phones I could feel which button I was sliding my thumb to and still look at the road for the most part. I can't feel the buttons anymore, so what I'm trying to say comes out completely wrong, and its safer not to, so I just quit. |
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Your sample size must suck? I used to drive for a living (sorta) - 8-9,000 miles a month. I had a blackberry with raised keys. I would drive on the interstate 4-6hrs a day and text or email absolutely non stop. Your senses are heightened b/c you know youre doing something wrong and dangerous. I've been told by multiple people that I'm a better driver while texting. I could keep eyes on the road and knees on the wheel. We're not all 16yr old girls, some of us know what we're doing. You sound like a liberal. Replace 'texting while driving' with 'guns' and see how your argument sounds ETA: 5spd manual truck Not sure why, but I fucking love this post. 
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| Bugs me too. I think the service carriers need to be start offering blocks for everything but voice if it can be determined to be moving at a faster than walk speed. That way you keep the legislation thingy away and they can sell it as a "service". I think parents of teenagers may even pay more for this feature. Hmmm....Capitalism to the rescue! |
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Sober texting while driving you are willingly grossly endangering those around you. You can get a DUI for 2 beers and not be near as dangerous. You are actually choosing to not look where you are pointing your deadly weapon, yet you would lose your shit if some pointed a loaded gun at you. What is the difference? Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? Dude, I have no idea! As stated there are already laws prohibiting it and they clearly do not work so additional bans and prohibitions will not solve it. The other problem is that what would prevent a driver from doing it would also prevent a passenger so that won't work either. I guess it just comes down to personal responsibility. I do agree that if you cause an accident because of texting, the penalty should actually be more harsh than a DUI. You had me nodding my head in agreement up until that part. That's when I said, "wat?" Sober texting while driving you are willingly grossly endangering those around you. You can get a DUI for 2 beers and not be near as dangerous. You are actually choosing to not look where you are pointing your deadly weapon, yet you would lose your shit if some pointed a loaded gun at you. What is the difference? You really don't see how putting people in jail for texting while driving would necessarily lead to all sorts of new laws for eating while driving, changing the radio station while driving, checking for boogers in the mirror while driving, adjust your balls while driving, etc.? It's a terribly slippery slope that I don't want to see us slide down. A free society is not a safe society. Suck it up. |
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I don't do it. But if you want to Clorox the genepool by doing so, have at it. Until this happens to you....on post-deployment block leave. Fuck clorox...those people need to drink some....not wait for darwin to take them out along with some unsuspecting family... 
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Quoted: Your sample size must suck? I used to drive for a living (sorta) - 8-9,000 miles a month. I had a blackberry with raised keys. I would drive on the interstate 4-6hrs a day and text or email absolutely non stop. |
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I have a 30 mile commute to work. mostly freeways. I see 2-3 examples of that every day. |
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving.
I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. |
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A woman from jersey just last week crashed into someone and killed him. Originally charged with reckless driving or whatever. When they went through her phone and realized she was texting at the time, they upgraded to murder 2, vehicular homicide. I believe.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_jersey&id=9297034 Sahoye was originally charged with causing death while driving with a suspended license, but the charges were upgraded after it became clear she was using her phone.
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving. I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. +10k |
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving. I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY 
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? |
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That made me want to icepick my ears. |
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Until this happens to you....on post-deployment block leave. Fuck clorox...those people need to drink some....not wait for darwin to take them out along with some unsuspecting family... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/cms81586/Bike%20and%20Car/P1000540.jpg Quoted:
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I don't do it. But if you want to Clorox the genepool by doing so, have at it. Until this happens to you....on post-deployment block leave. Fuck clorox...those people need to drink some....not wait for darwin to take them out along with some unsuspecting family... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/cms81586/Bike%20and%20Car/P1000540.jpg That sucks. I'm willing to bet you don't do it, though. |
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! |
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First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! You're not extreme. |
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First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! 
have fun paying billions to build prisons to house these new felons GTFO with that argument |
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First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! You're smoking fucking crack if you think texting while driving without harm to anyone is a felony. |
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have fun paying billions to build prisons to house these new felons GTFO with that argument Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book!
have fun paying billions to build prisons to house these new felons GTFO with that argument I think that the first year or two would be tough then it would slow down because all those idiot teenage girls would be off the roads. In my perfect world the punishment would be summary execution, but I think that wouldn't go over well. |
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That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? Quoted:
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving. I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? Brad, you will get yours. The older you get the less you realize you know. Explain this to me. You want to communicate. You have a device that you can communicate on with your voice, like talking to a passenger, with both eyes on the road. But somehow, communication is better by taking your eyes off of the road, and typing in broken sentences to try and communicate. How does that make sense when you could use your voice to communicate, or use a voice to text feature to do the same, allowing you to keep eyes on the road/surroundings? Why do texters insist on not watching what is going on around them and insist it will be okay? Hopefully soon, cars will be automated, and can be set in a cruise mode where they drive themselves safely if desired, so distracting tasks can be performed safely while traveling. |
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That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? Quoted:
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving. I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? I would thank you not to "fix it for me" I stand by my statement. To answer your question who do I blame? Simple, my son was driving and was on the phone, simple as that. Just the same as it would be for you. I'm thankful no one else was hurt or killed. I hope it works out for you. |
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You're smoking fucking crack if you think texting while driving without harm to anyone is a felony. Quoted:
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book! You're smoking fucking crack if you think texting while driving without harm to anyone is a felony. Nope. Those people have to get off the road. I can't think of any other way to do it other then suspending/revoking their license big ass fines or prison. When someone you love gets killed by some idiot texting on the freeway you'll get it. but then it's too late. |
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There are already laws against it. What can be done in your estimation? First Offense - Felony, automatic license supension for one year, optional jail time for one year. $1000 fine. Second offense - Felony, mandatory five year license suspension. Minimum one year to three years in prison. $5000 fine Third offense - minimum five years in prison. License revoked for life. $10,000 fine Death or serious injury would add vehicular homicide to the aforementioned texting charges. In other words throw the book at them and make a damn huge book!
have fun paying billions to build prisons to house these new felons GTFO with that argument No shit. I bet if they did increase the penalties you might well see some push back from the citizens. Texting has become ingrained in current society and it would be like prohibtion. Which it is anyway. Most people ignore the law banning it while driving. It is proving a hard law in KY at least to enforce. Alot of judges have dismissed the charges because the Officer cannot really prove the person was texting. Not everyone texts where the officer can see them doing that and the person can claim they were not texting but doing something else. |
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Simple solution, text feature on phone stops working over 5mph, end of an epidemic problem. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile not to mention, the next time AZBADBOY needs to buy a new phone he's going to post a thread on here saying "WHY IS THIS PHONE SO EXPENSIVE!?!?!?!?!" oh wait AZBADBOY, it's the government-mandated safety features that you forced us all to have derpppppppppppppp |
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Brad, you will get yours. The older you get the less you realize you know. Explain this to me. You want to communicate. You have a device that you can communicate on with your voice, like talking to a passenger, with both eyes on the road. But somehow, communication is better by taking your eyes off of the road, and typing in broken sentences to try and communicate. How does that make sense when you could use your voice to communicate, or use a voice to text feature to do the same, allowing you to keep eyes on the road/surroundings? Why do texters insist on not watching what is going on around them and insist it will be okay? Hopefully soon, cars will be automated, and can be set in a cruise mode where they drive themselves safely if desired, so distracting tasks can be performed safely while traveling. Quoted:
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A local TV station interviewed me Tuesday. They are doing a weekly report on the dangers of Distracted Driving. I talked about the death of my son Cody. Someone called him and he answered the phone, went through a red light. He was 19. Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone is a fool. That's a very sad story and I'm sorry for your loss but the brain isn't developed until 23 or 24 yrs old. I don't quite get the argument that he took 0.5-2 seconds to slide the answer bar on his iPhone to answer a call ----> missing the yellow, missing the red, cars already accelerating, getting t-boned. Clearly, the laws for 19yr olds don't apply to the rest of the general populace ETA: we are not all created equal. Some people can multitask, some can't "Anyone who thinks they are a better driver while txt'ing or talking on the phone carrying a gun will allow you to stop a violent criminal in public is a fool" FIFY
ETA: Again, very sorry for your loss ETA: who do you blame? The firend that called? The phone manufacturer? the service providor? the car manufacturer? The safety institute that said the car was crash test rated? God for allowing the perfect storm to take your child? Do you blame Cody for being irresponsible? Do you blame yourself for not teaching him/warning him more thoroughly? Brad, you will get yours. The older you get the less you realize you know. Explain this to me. You want to communicate. You have a device that you can communicate on with your voice, like talking to a passenger, with both eyes on the road. But somehow, communication is better by taking your eyes off of the road, and typing in broken sentences to try and communicate. How does that make sense when you could use your voice to communicate, or use a voice to text feature to do the same, allowing you to keep eyes on the road/surroundings? Why do texters insist on not watching what is going on around them and insist it will be okay? Hopefully soon, cars will be automated, and can be set in a cruise mode where they drive themselves safely if desired, so distracting tasks can be performed safely while traveling. I read most of what you said. I posted this earlier in the thread Quoted:
autocorrect on smart phones, you're not texting the CEO or a senator. A gramatical error or spelling fubar is fine. Siri Voice to text ETA: I'm not sure if I wasn't clear earlier - if you have to take your eyes off the road for more than 2 seconds to text, you're a 16yr old girl (or 60yrd old) |
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Distracted driving has been a causative factor in traffic collisions and traffic related fatalities long before the advent of the cell phone. Since cell phone use has become widespread we have not seen a spike in traffic collisions or traffic related fatalities. So, why the sudden urgency and "need" to ban cell phone use while driving? Why not ban eating while driving? Or how about putting on make-up while driving? Bans on cell use while driving is a typical statist move to address a symptom not the disease. It is no different than the left believing a ban guns is a solution to curbing violence perpetrated with a firearm.
A "common sense" approach would be that if someone causes an accident due to distracted driving, regardless if it was due to using their cell phone, trying to smack their kids in the back seat, or getting a BJ while cruising down PCH at 55 MPH, the penalties should be no different. Also, DUI is illegal and look how well we as a society have curtailed that problem.
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