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10/12/2013 7:29:40 AM EDT
It appears with politicians focus on the budget, debt ceiling, immigration, and the upcoming 2014 election season that the odds of another push for an AWB is slim to none. Especially in light of the fact that the last mass shooting didn't prompt anything.

So, is it fair to say the panic is over? I see firearms now clearly returning to the shelves.  I'm seeing a slight improvement in ammunition availability, but .22LR and 9mm are still largely unavailable.

How are things in your AO ammo and firearms wise? Stocks coming back?
10/12/2013 7:31:12 AM EDT
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WHERE IN THE BLUE FUCK IS THE .22LR???????
10/12/2013 7:34:04 AM EDT
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It appears with politicians focus on the budget, debt ceiling, immigration, and the upcoming 2014 election season that the odds of another push for an AWB is slim to none. Especially in light of the fact that the last mass shooting didn't prompt anything.

So, is it fair to say the panic is over? I see firearms now clearly returning to the shelves.  I'm seeing a slight improvement in ammunition availability, but .22LR and 9mm are still largely unavailable.

How are things in your AO ammo and firearms wise? Stocks coming back?
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Firearms wise, getting back to normal.  Ammo...slightly.  I've seen lots of 40 and 45 on the shelf...also some 5.56, 223, and 308.  Other large rifle caliber easily available but often was even throughout the panic

9mm and 22LR...what's that?
10/12/2013 7:34:24 AM EDT
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Generally speaking, ammo is practically non-existent in my A.O.


But cheap ARs are back in the Wally World display cases.
10/12/2013 7:36:19 AM EDT
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9mm and .22lr are still almost unobtainable around here. Everything else is starting to come down in price and seems to be sitting on the shelves.  I really don't need more of either, but having it on the shelf would make me happier.
10/12/2013 7:37:02 AM EDT
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Firearms wise, getting back to normal.  Ammo...slightly.  I've seen lots of 40 and 45 on the shelf...also some 5.56, 223, and 308.  Other large rifle caliber easily available but often was even throughout the panic

9mm and 22LR...what's that?
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It appears with politicians focus on the budget, debt ceiling, immigration, and the upcoming 2014 election season that the odds of another push for an AWB is slim to none. Especially in light of the fact that the last mass shooting didn't prompt anything.

So, is it fair to say the panic is over? I see firearms now clearly returning to the shelves.  I'm seeing a slight improvement in ammunition availability, but .22LR and 9mm are still largely unavailable.

How are things in your AO ammo and firearms wise? Stocks coming back?

Firearms wise, getting back to normal.  Ammo...slightly.  I've seen lots of 40 and 45 on the shelf...also some 5.56, 223, and 308.  Other large rifle caliber easily available but often was even throughout the panic

9mm and 22LR...what's that?


The way it's been explained to me is that the ammunition manufacturers do lots of ammo by their manufacturing schedules. My guess is we'll see 9mm and .22LR soon, but it might be another cycle or two before we see improvement. I have definitely noticed .45ACP and .40 S&W here, in fact, there is a lot of it on the shelves.
10/12/2013 7:39:25 AM EDT
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I'm still having problems finding a number of high end firearms on my wish list. Ammo is mostly back but the price is still a good bit too high compared to the prices in November.
10/12/2013 7:42:10 AM EDT
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If people begin to fear the Republicans losing control of the House of Representatives in Nov 2014 (e.g. Democrats regain some kind of super-majority again giving them free reign to pass major anti-2A legislation), then you can be damned sure panic will ramp back up faster than you can blink.  Obviously, at this point nobody knows what's going to happen.  However, with availability seemingly pretty good at the moment, I for one am buying everything I can think of (hardware-wise, ammo-wise, reloading-wise) between now and next summer...just in case.  I don't ever want to be left feeling again like I did in January of this year (2013).
10/12/2013 7:45:47 AM EDT
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If people begin to fear the Republicans losing control of the House of Representatives in Nov 2014 (e.g. Democrats regain some kind of super-majority again giving them free reign to pass major anti-2A legislation), then you can be damned sure panic will ramp back up faster than you can blink.  Obviously, at this point nobody knows what's going to happen.  However, with availability seemingly pretty good at the moment, I for one am buying everything I can think of (hardware-wise, ammo-wise, reloading-wise) between now and next summer...just in case.  I don't ever want to be left feeling again like I did in January of this year (2013).
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If it gets bad due to anticipation of poor Republican performance in the 2014 election we'll not see the panic set in until right before the November election or after it. Obama panic in 08' didn't start until after he was elected even though he was the clear favorite in the polls leading up to it. I'd say conservatively you've got between now and next October to be panic free.

10/12/2013 7:47:11 AM EDT
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Same story here, no 9mm or 22lr but have seen 40, 45, and 223 showing up more often.
10/12/2013 7:48:06 AM EDT
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I really thought the ammo thing would have been better by now.
10/12/2013 7:51:35 AM EDT
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No KIDDING, I have been telling a few noobs to wait a couple months before buying in any quantity, that things should be better then.  I have been telling them that since January/Feb.
10/12/2013 7:52:02 AM EDT
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Guns are readily available and ammo is becoming readily available around here for the first time in years.  I think 6 months from now much of the gun industry is going to start cratering.
10/12/2013 7:52:22 AM EDT
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Ammo for the most part still seems to be 20-30% overpriced.  Guns are readily available again.  My LGS has a whole rack of various AR's for less than $1000.
10/12/2013 7:52:53 AM EDT
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We've got lots of .223, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP here just no 9mm or .22LR.  

10/12/2013 7:54:41 AM EDT
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Ammo for the most part still seems to be 20-30% overpriced.  Guns are readily available again.  My LGS has a whole rack of various AR's for less than $1000.
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Same here. Have been to four different shops in the area in the past few weeks and they were all really well stocked with AR's and other Black Rifles at very reasonable prices.

Pistols are plentiful.

40, 45, .223 is plentiful. 7.62x39 is scarce. .22LR and 9mm are nonexistent.

10/12/2013 7:54:55 AM EDT
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Lots of people made guesses.  Yours was not right.  No doubt there are people who earlier this year guessed Christmas or even 2014.

Time will tell.
10/12/2013 7:55:18 AM EDT
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Common rifle Calibers are pretty much back - but less common pistol Calibers - .32, .380, 9x18, etc. are still very tough to find in stores or online.

Local Walmarts are still constantly wiped of everything but shotgun shells & oddball hunting rifle rounds.

Local Gander Mountain is pretty well stocked - but prices are way too high for me.
10/12/2013 7:56:14 AM EDT
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Same here. Have been to four different shops in the area in the past few weeks and they were all really well stocked with AR's and other Black Rifles at very reasonable prices.

Pistols are plentiful.

40, 45, .223 is plentiful. 7.62x39 is scarce. .22LR and 9mm are nonexistent.

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Ammo for the most part still seems to be 20-30% overpriced.  Guns are readily available again.  My LGS has a whole rack of various AR's for less than $1000.


Same here. Have been to four different shops in the area in the past few weeks and they were all really well stocked with AR's and other Black Rifles at very reasonable prices.

Pistols are plentiful.

40, 45, .223 is plentiful. 7.62x39 is scarce. .22LR and 9mm are nonexistent.



There needs to be a law against talking about availability in your area and not listing your area.
10/12/2013 7:58:06 AM EDT
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Common rifle Calibers are pretty much back - but less common pistol Calibers - .32, .380, 9x18, etc. are still very tough to find in stores or online.

Local Walmarts are still constantly wiped of everything but shotgun shells & oddball hunting rifle rounds.

Local Gander Mountain is pretty well stocked - but prices are way too high for me.
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Yeah, ammo comes into my Walmart every Saturday morning and by 12 noon it's pretty much gone.  Gander Mountain is packed with 40 S&W, .223, and 45 ACP.
10/12/2013 8:03:17 AM EDT
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Guns are back, ammo is not, at least not at Walmart. There is only 1 LGS in my AO and their prices were ungodly high before the panic ($12+/box for 55gr fmj .223), so I won't even entertain the idea of giving those gougers my ammo money. They've had ammo in-stock all through the whole panic, but last I saw they wanted $16/box for the cheapest stuff.
10/12/2013 8:05:37 AM EDT
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There are plenty of guns to be had at good prices at the LGS and Walmart here.   However, ammo is pretty scarce locally, unless it is odd calibers.  Bulk 9mm or any 22 is not around.
10/12/2013 8:06:38 AM EDT
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This.  Everything else is available at normal prices.
10/12/2013 8:09:02 AM EDT
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This.  Everything else is available at normal prices.
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This.  Everything else is available at normal prices.


Just haven't seen the manufacturers do a run of .22LR since the panic started to subside. It will come back.
10/12/2013 8:15:07 AM EDT
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Until Midway has a sale on CCI Mini Mags the ammo shortage isn't close to being over.
10/12/2013 8:15:29 AM EDT
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Just haven't seen the manufacturers do a run of .22LR since the panic started to subside. It will come back.
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This.  Everything else is available at normal prices.


Just haven't seen the manufacturers do a run of .22LR since the panic started to subside. It will come back.


when I can get .223 at .25 cents a round and .22lr for 20 for 550rds i'll say the panic is over.

It would be sweet if some 5.56 surplus would flood the market and get the prices down.
10/12/2013 8:17:59 AM EDT
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Ammo is still lagging but available.  Even 22 LR.  But it's not at pre-panic prices yet.

Rifles are cheaper than ever.  Neighbor just bought a LE6920 for 850 bucks on Armslist from a panic buyer.  Kid needed money for school and took a huge hit on the rifle.  Upon inspection, I'll bet it's had no more than two mags through it.  

And Thursday, Centerfire had LMT SPM16s for $789.  You can buy a quality AR for cheaper than a Romy AK right now.  Wednesday, PSA had $59 blem lowers and complete uppers MI rail, BCG and complete LPK for 550.  You'd have just over 600 for a pretty nice m4gery.

Ive been buying like a madman right now.  Voter anger is at an all time high right now and I could totally see losing the House.  And the minute those scumbags have the chance, they are going to pass it all with regards to gun control.  They don't care if they turn right around and lose the whole thing in 2016; they got healthcare and gun control.  Throw in amnesty/immigration and its like a liberal wet dream.

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10/12/2013 8:21:10 AM EDT
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I can find 7.62x39 easily now, but whenever cheap 5.56 comes around its always gone before I can get a few boxes.  That's better than it was six months ago.
10/12/2013 8:23:52 AM EDT
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Generally speaking, ammo is practically non-existent in my A.O.


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^ this

And reloading componants are still unubtainium
10/12/2013 8:34:03 AM EDT
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It's a little pricey here but I can tell you that in Washington (the wet side) everything is back.

Assuming you don't think 30 cents a round for 9mm range ammo is too high.
10/12/2013 8:34:15 AM EDT
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most calibers of ammo is in stock at the gun stores, Wal Mart is a different story though. The only caliber I still see very little of is .22 long rifle. As far as guns go most stores are stocked up pretty good now and have a little bit of everything, although some of the prices are still at semi panic levels.
10/12/2013 8:41:46 AM EDT
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Finding firearms has never been a problem here except 10/22s for a short period of time. Ammo has been around including 9mm and prices are dropping on that. 22LR is still very hard to find.
10/12/2013 8:45:42 AM EDT
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First post got it!

Most ammo is back but not one pack of .22LR!!!!

I need Fed bulk packs and CCI standard!!!!!
10/12/2013 8:49:33 AM EDT
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Most firearms are readily available in my area and at or near pre panic prices, most ammo with the exception of 22 and to a extent 9MM is available at slightly higher prices, plus you can walk in a gun shop around here and its not packed to the gills, still people there just not insanely crowded.
10/12/2013 8:54:06 AM EDT
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Nope, Glocks are still WAY over priced. And its still somewhat of a pain finding 9mm.
10/12/2013 8:54:17 AM EDT
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Plenty of firearms here, AR15's are like ants. No way these dealers gonna sell them, they are literally swimming in them. The only guns hard to find Find are CZ handguns, but I believe that will soon change, the boat will Dock soon.  Ammo is almost back to normal except .22.
9mm took a while, but it is almost everywhere here. Flippers gonna be screwed real quick around quick here on centerfire.


10/12/2013 8:54:19 AM EDT
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You  people  are  high .  As  others  have  said , reloading  components ( powder , primers , lead ) are  STILL  unobtanium . In  my  neighborhood  most  common  calibers  are STILL  unobtainium ( 9mm ,45auto , 30-30 , .308 , 30-06 , .22 ) . Add  to  that  the  fact  that  one  little  incident  will  put  most  people  back  into  full  blown
panic  mode . . .  ah .  .  .no . It  ain't  nearly  over . In  many  states  we  are  now  being  shackled  with  the  most  fascist  and  oppressive  legislation  to  ever  come
from  liberal  politicians ,and  each  day  brings  w/ it  more WTF .
10/12/2013 9:00:02 AM EDT
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Well after looking for 4 months I finally found some CCI 29gr CB's so it has improved a little. I did pay about 3 dollars per 100 above what I last paid.
10/12/2013 9:04:30 AM EDT
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I just ordered some 9mm from PSA on a decent deal.
10/12/2013 9:08:25 AM EDT
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Stock is slowly building up and prices returning to normal.

I hope to be able to buy 9mm by the case (for a good price), and buy more than 2 bricks of 22lr by Christmas.
10/12/2013 9:15:08 AM EDT
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GECO 124gr?  They seem to have over 5000 boxes of it ATM.  Anyone whining about no 9mm isn't looking very hard.  I bought some awhile ago, never shot any just hoarding for now I guess.
10/12/2013 9:23:15 AM EDT
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Around here, its completely over, except for the .22. However, everyone is still actively buying hi demand pistol and rifle rounds at a decent rate.  When this subsides, the manufacturers will start making more .22 again. Right now, people will happily buy whatever is on the shelf and .22 is no longer the "cash cow". It will come back when buying slows.

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10/12/2013 9:25:47 AM EDT
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Buy the dips!

10/12/2013 12:08:56 PM EDT
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I went to an FGS and Gander Mountain today. Ammunition is about 30-50% more than it was prior to the panic. However, firearms seem to be back to pre-panic prices.

Still very, very little .22LR and no 9mm (other than expensive defensive rounds) at either location.


I'd say ammo would rank as poor, but improving.

Firearms would rank as good.
10/12/2013 12:13:47 PM EDT
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Here in Jacksonville FL all the GunShops are filled with AR15s.The biggest one has at least  50 and even the smaller stores will have 10-15.Ammo is still pretty scarce but is very slowly starting to come back in stock.Plenty of PMAGS everywhere.
10/12/2013 12:14:02 PM EDT
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Generally speaking, ammo is practically non-existent in my A.O.


But cheap ARs are back in the Wally World display cases.


^ this

And reloading componants are still unubtainium


That's interesting that folks are reporting reloading components are unobtainium.  I assume that will be a key sign when ammunition was returned to normal supply/demand when we see reloading components becoming more available.

10/12/2013 12:16:15 PM EDT
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Ammo is still lagging but available.  Even 22 LR.  But it's not at pre-panic prices yet.

Rifles are cheaper than ever.  Neighbor just bought a LE6920 for 850 bucks on Armslist from a panic buyer.  Kid needed money for school and took a huge hit on the rifle.  Upon inspection, I'll bet it's had no more than two mags through it.  

And Thursday, Centerfire had LMT SPM16s for $789.  You can buy a quality AR for cheaper than a Romy AK right now.  Wednesday, PSA had $59 blem lowers and complete uppers MI rail, BCG and complete LPK for 550.  You'd have just over 600 for a pretty nice m4gery.

Ive been buying like a madman right now.  Voter anger is at an all time high right now and I could totally see losing the House.  And the minute those scumbags have the chance, they are going to pass it all with regards to gun control.  They don't care if they turn right around and lose the whole thing in 2016; they got healthcare and gun control.  Throw in amnesty/immigration and its like a liberal wet dream.

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People in this nation have a short attention span. Nobody is going to stay pissed from now until November 2014 to make a significant difference in the voting. A year of keeping motivation to make Republicans pay just would not be typical. Especially since so far the average American hasn't been heavily impacted by this shut down and most government workers will get back pay once the budget is passed.

10/12/2013 12:17:22 PM EDT
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EBT (Food Stamps) is apparently down, every WalMart in the country will be out of ammo again in a matter of hours if they are not already.
10/12/2013 12:18:45 PM EDT
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Begun, the post Sandy Hook era of Weapons has

10/12/2013 12:23:53 PM EDT
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Not yet.

I ordered Glock mags, tons of them, in Dec. 2012. Spoke with Brownells last week, they have no eta and there are still thousands AND thousands on BO in front of my order.
10/12/2013 12:31:28 PM EDT
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