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9/23/2013 8:43:45 PM EDT
I introduced a young man who works for me to shooting and guns.  I trained him in safety and basic firearms handling.  He has gone from being terrified of guns to taking and passing a his Pistol Permit class and applying for his permit.  Once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol.  






He will not carry a gun, probably ever, but he genuinely LOVES target shooting.   He's relying on me to help him.  







My advice for him has been to purchase a .22 LR handgun for the obvious reasons.  







I've been shooting since I'm 7-8 years old, my question to you all is what would you recommend for a kid like this just starting out? Money is definitely a concern.







Ruger MK2 or 3?







Cheap revolver?  I.e. H&R?







Buckmark?







P22?







Others?







$400 or less is the target.
















 
9/23/2013 8:45:31 PM EDT
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Ruger mk3 stainless .
9/23/2013 8:45:52 PM EDT
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I'm a fan of the Ruger line personally.
9/23/2013 8:46:03 PM EDT
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Good on you for taking him under your wing!

I don't have much experience with .22 pistols, but your suggestions all seem good to me
9/23/2013 8:46:34 PM EDT
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ETA, I totally missed the gist of this thread My boy also loves his P22.

Can't go wrong with a 10/22.  I went with the TD model & a picture is worth a thousand words

9/23/2013 8:48:30 PM EDT
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He seems to be interested in pistols exclusively so far.  I'll work on that over time.


 



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9/23/2013 8:50:11 PM EDT
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I love my Ruger SR22 pistol. It was my first and the damn things started mating and now I have 2 more to go with it. The Sig Mosquito is also a very nice 22 pistol.
9/23/2013 8:50:35 PM EDT
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A Ruger or an M&P 22...
9/23/2013 8:51:14 PM EDT
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I don't have much experience with .22 pistols, but your suggestions all seem good to me
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He's a good responsible kid. He grew up in a family that doesn't know from guns...

 
9/23/2013 8:52:23 PM EDT
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Hard to go wrong with a 22lr Ruger.
9/23/2013 8:52:32 PM EDT
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I have a p22. I would buy a different pistol if I could go back and do it again.
9/23/2013 8:58:59 PM EDT
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Thanks for the honesty.  Why would you do it different??  Bad trigger, malfunctions?

 
9/23/2013 9:08:01 PM EDT
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Thanks for the honesty.  Why would you do it different??  Bad trigger, malfunctions?  


i don't own a p22, but my brother does and ive shot it a bit.  in my experience, its just not a spectacular gun for training with.  too small compared to the majority of larger caliber pistols, and its super picky with ammo.  a good ruger mk 2 or 3 would be great for learning fundamentals on, and a good clone like an m&p22 would be great for training for a larger pistol with

ETA:  on the topic of buckmarks (which are great pistols) and the such, I have NEVER shot an automatic .22 pistol that i have loved more than my father's colt woodsman.  by far the best shooting .22 I have ever shot.  they're not very cheap though
9/23/2013 9:10:03 PM EDT
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I put many rounds down range with a ruger mk2 when I was a kid, it will always have a place for me.   that said, there are a lot of really nice 22 pistols out.  even the M&P pistol is under 400.  if he plans on buying a "real" gun, get a 22 version of the real gun he plans to buy, that way he already has familiarity with the ergonomics.
9/23/2013 9:12:51 PM EDT
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22/45 if just target shooting
9/23/2013 9:16:54 PM EDT
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Ruger Mk whichever he can find or a buckmark.

Either one will serve.  If he can try both before hand or even just pick them up, whichever of the two fits him well.

Avoid the Sig Mosquito and the P22.   I don't own the SR22 or the M&P 22 but know people who like them....but it is really, really hard to go wrong with a Ruger Mk _ or a Buckmark.
9/23/2013 10:16:47 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity whats his age and does he have small hands?  I ask because it makes a difference.  Also if he wants to get into something like Bullseye shooting a S&W model 41 would be a pistol to look at as well.

ETA: just re-read the OP. Go with the MK3 or the Buckmark.  My vote is for the MK3.
9/23/2013 10:30:55 PM EDT
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Ruger is always a good .22 pistol choice.
9/23/2013 10:43:49 PM EDT
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Ill add another gun to the mix.  
A GTG 1911-22 or Sig 1911-22 (same gun)
LOVE mine!
9/23/2013 11:40:52 PM EDT
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He seems to be interested in pistols exclusively so far.  I'll work on that over time.  

Eta:  awesome pic!
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Can't go wrong with a 10/22.  I went with the TD model & a picture is worth a thousand words

http://allangreendale.net/dump/arfcom/steiny.1.jpg
He seems to be interested in pistols exclusively so far.  I'll work on that over time.  

Eta:  awesome pic!


Problem solved
9/23/2013 11:46:53 PM EDT
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taking and passing a his Pistol Permit class and applying for his permit.  Once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol.


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Im not making a joke.



What do you mean "once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol"?



In CT you have to get some sort of "permit" before you can buy a gun?



I live in NV so I have no idea how the east coast works.
 
9/24/2013 12:00:20 AM EDT
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I suggest one of the older High Standard 22LR pistols. They are accurate and feel good in your hand. A little pricey, but worth it if you get a good one.
9/24/2013 5:34:42 AM EDT
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taking and passing a his Pistol Permit class and applying for his permit.  Once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol.


 


Im not making a joke.



What do you mean "once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol"?



In CT you have to get some sort of "permit" before you can buy a gun?



I live in NV so I have no idea how the east coast works.





 
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You can only buy a handgun in Connecticut, if in addition to being a resident, you have a valid Permit to carry Pistols or Revolvers, a valid Eligibility Certificate, if you are a licensed Firearms Dealer or if you are a Sworn Police Officer.




This state is ridiculous.
9/24/2013 5:35:29 AM EDT
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Im not making a joke.

What do you mean "once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol"?

In CT you have to get some sort of "permit" before you can buy a gun?

I live in NV so I have no idea how the east coast works.


 
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taking and passing a his Pistol Permit class and applying for his permit.  Once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol.
 
Im not making a joke.

What do you mean "once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol"?

In CT you have to get some sort of "permit" before you can buy a gun?

I live in NV so I have no idea how the east coast works.


 


Here in CT, a pistol permit is a permit to purchase and carry.

9/24/2013 5:44:48 AM EDT
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9/24/2013 5:57:10 AM EDT
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Ruger ot Browing, either will do nicely.  Our club has both.  The Rugers hold up better,  The Brownings are a bit nicer.
9/24/2013 6:03:43 AM EDT
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Hi, good for you for teaching this young man. I know this isn't a pistol, but you might think about a revolver. I taught my daughter with a Taurus 941.  They have a. 22lr version. Can't recall the model. She was able to work with both da and sa. She really has become very accurate with it.  It held 8 rounds. The long rifle version holds 9.  It is a small frame size and well made for the money.  If possible, save alittle more and find a good used smith 17  or 18. The triggers on these are great. Anyway, good karma for you and good luck.
9/24/2013 6:07:10 AM EDT
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Out of curiosity whats his age and does he have small hands?  I ask because it makes a difference.  Also if he wants to get into something like Bullseye shooting a S&W model 41 would be a pistol to look at as well.





ETA: just re-read the OP. Go with the MK3 or the Buckmark.  My vote is for the MK3.
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22.  Medium-sized hands.  

 
 
9/24/2013 6:12:27 AM EDT
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Hi, good for you for teaching this young man. I know this isn't a pistol, but you might think about a revolver. I taught my daughter with a Taurus 941.  They have a. 22lr version. Can't recall the model. She was able to work with both da and sa. She really has become very accurate with it.  It held 8 rounds. The long rifle version holds 9.  It is a small frame size and well made for the money.  If possible, save alittle more and find a good used smith 17  or 18. The triggers on these are great. Anyway, good karma for you and good luck.
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22 revolvers are great because they'll eat anything you feed them.  I suggested he think about a revolver.  He seems to have his heart set on a semi-auto.  

 



I'm trying to work a deal right now for a pre-lock 617 4".  I tried it out with Colibris in my shop.  What a great gun!
9/24/2013 6:15:43 AM EDT
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cz 75.
if it may be the only gun he ever buys, I would not suggest a .22lr, but thats just me.
9/24/2013 6:26:38 AM EDT
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I was in Gander Mountain last week and they had a used S&W Model 17 for $499 if you wanted to spend a little more.  If you wanted to upgrade to a .38 go with a Model 14 or 15.
9/24/2013 6:33:04 AM EDT
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9/24/2013 6:35:21 AM EDT
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Here in CT, a pistol permit is a permit to purchase and carry.

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taking and passing a his Pistol Permit class and applying for his permit.  Once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol.
 
Im not making a joke.

What do you mean "once his permit is issued, he wants to buy a pistol"?

In CT you have to get some sort of "permit" before you can buy a gun?

I live in NV so I have no idea how the east coast works.


 


Here in CT, a pistol permit is a permit to purchase and carry.



God I am glad I live in New Mexico.
9/24/2013 6:39:07 AM EDT
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I had a MK III 22/45 but could never get over the LCI on it.  
Sold it and got a Mk II and love it.

My BIL has a Buckmark and it's also a very nice gun.

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9/24/2013 6:40:48 AM EDT
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I'm gonna go against the grain and say a Browning Buckmark.
9/24/2013 6:41:53 AM EDT
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Ruger 22/45, MK 2, MK 3, or Buckmark.

Very wise choice selecting a .22 as a first handgun.  Don't go for any of the smaller pistols.  They are fun range toys but not serious contenders if he wants to improve his target handgunning in the long term.
9/24/2013 6:43:28 AM EDT
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If you like H&R's look at the 999 sportsman. So much fun.
9/24/2013 6:47:56 AM EDT
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If you can get a Mk2, then that, obviously.

Otherwise, I'm tempted to just say Buckmark.

As much as I love the Rugers, the Mk3's trigger is absolute shit out of the box, and any fixes to that require some competent gunsmithing, even for drop-in parts.  If you can mess with them, Rugers are great.  If you want out-of-the-box performance for under $400, then you want a Buckmark.

I wish it weren't true, but the move to the Mk3 got a lot of things wrong.
9/24/2013 6:48:14 AM EDT
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The first pistol I shot was a S&W 629 when I was like 12

That being said, I got a MK2, and it is great for a starting pistol.
9/24/2013 6:49:39 AM EDT
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Good work, sir!
9/24/2013 6:53:00 AM EDT
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I have the Ruger Mk2 with the bull barrel. I love it! Your LGS may have one that's been traded in on a Mark 3.

As he saves his coins, he can add a centerfire to his armory.
9/24/2013 6:55:17 AM EDT
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I just picked this up for 369.00 (minus the can and red dot of course) and would highly recommend it.  

9/24/2013 6:55:31 AM EDT
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if it may be the only gun he ever buys, I would not suggest a .22lr, but thats just me.
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This,why just a 22 ?



 
9/24/2013 6:58:03 AM EDT
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M-4 Alaskan Survival 45-70 Derringer












 
9/24/2013 7:04:34 AM EDT
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My 1st .22 pistol was a Ruger 22/45 mark III. I installed the Volquartsen Accurizing trigger Kit, and removed the mag disconnect and slide release detent. It is a sweet shooting pistol.
9/24/2013 7:04:55 AM EDT
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This, or the 22/45 based on whichever one feels better in the hand.
9/24/2013 7:13:10 AM EDT
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Ruger MKIII.  I have a bull barrel version that eats any ammo and is boringly accurate.  I'd rather hunt squirrel with it than my 22lr AR.
9/24/2013 7:43:51 AM EDT
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I prefer my buckmark to the "My God Be With You On The Field Strip" Ruger, but either one would be ok.
9/24/2013 7:48:22 AM EDT
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Is he gonna be able to find ammo for a .22 where you live?
9/24/2013 8:44:59 AM EDT
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I can help him out with that for now until it comes back.

 
9/24/2013 8:49:15 AM EDT
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S&W MP22

He can jump to a real full size after that
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