[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Tow Missle Thread (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/8/2013 8:47:23 AM EDT
Former 11H - Delta Dog here showing some love - Lets see what yall got
POP- Wiz Delayed Actions (that we talk about)
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I will never forgive the Dog Collar for always fucking my hands up (got meaty hands) Quoted:
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Good for the old Tow missile. That was the last thing that some of our enemy ever saw. But some never even saw it coming. I will never forgive the Dog Collar for always fucking my hands up (got meaty hands) Marine Aviation is out of the TOW business |
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Are there HE/frag missiles for TOWs for use against soft targets like there are Hellfires, or do they always have the same warhead? the Tow 2B - You can go in the menu of the ITAS and select mode .. Bravo words like a shape charge alpha is a through and through missle - I think they have added some more stuff too Anyone Else earned an Ashtray? 
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http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2011.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2012.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2010.jpg http://www.warwheels.net/images/M1167TOWdod%20%283%29.jpg Better look into a Tub Quoted:
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They look really alien when they fire like some kind of neon flying wing. I would love to see one in person! http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2011.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2012.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2010.jpg http://www.warwheels.net/images/M1167TOWdod%20%283%29.jpg Better look into a Tub God god man.... What have they done to my day and night sights???!!! It didn't look like that 20 years ago... 
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Not when it comes out the tube and lands 10 meters in front of your vehicle  ...
Slug-O 0352 91-95 USMC Quoted:
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They look really alien when they fire like some kind of neon flying wing. I would love to see one in person! Not when it comes out the tube and lands 10 meters in front of your vehicle ...
Slug-O 0352 91-95 USMC You know - This happens quite frequently with the training tubes - Wires go bad and old ...stickers don't read right hah-aha Fired them and seen them go off into outer-space and into the ground and the fun part starts when you have to spool in all that fucking copper wire 
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What MOS replaced 11H and 11HE9 at least in the Airborne Brigades they just moved 11H into Delta Company while A , B, and C remained line companies and Delta's became Heavy Weapons Companies as an 11B or 11X We were tiny, 60-70 guys in the company usually but always the heaviest weapons and always first called to the party when shit went wrong - Delta Dawgs we were known from the line guys as they dismayed us riding around in our gun trucks but loved the firepower |
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God god man.... What have they done to my day and night sights???!!! It didn't look like that 20 years ago... Quoted:
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They look really alien when they fire like some kind of neon flying wing. I would love to see one in person! http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2011.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2012.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2010.jpg http://www.warwheels.net/images/M1167TOWdod%20%283%29.jpg Better look into a Tub God god man.... What have they done to my day and night sights???!!! It didn't look like that 20 years ago... My sentiments exactly. Looks completely different...where are you supposed to fill the flash pan? 
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The 24 second life span of the BGM-71 TOW missile begins 1.54 second before ignition at trigger pull. At this point several things happen. (1) Three batteries are activated that provide power to the electronics, the Xenon or thermal beacon and the actuator subsystem. (2) The attitude control gyro spins up to 42,000 rpm. (3) Electronic signals are balance between the Missile Command Amplifier and the missile. Finally, the engine ignites!
The tube clearance engine, located in the back of the TOW produces 15,000 lbs. of thrust for 0.35 to 0.5 seconds and burns out before it leaves the tube. At the moment the front wings finish unfolding as they spring out after leaving the tube they close an electric circuit that causes the "flight" motor to ignite. This motor has two exhaust nozzles, one on each side of the rocket about half way up the body in order to avoid the center of gravity (CG) changing during flight. The flight motor ignites about seven meters from the launcher. Then, when the missile has reached between 35-70 meters from the launcher, the warhead is armed by acceleration G forces from the "flight" motor. Upon capture, the TOW missile becomes a closed-loop system. The Xenon beacon and thermal beacon ( TOW 2, TOW2A ) are installed in the rear of the missiles and are detected by the Xenon detector or thermal tracker in the TSU. Two wire dispensers are mounted on the rear of the missile at 90 and 270 degree positions. These dispensers contain 3,750 meters of single strand wire. Control surface flippers respond to signals from this wire command link. Helium powers the control actuators. The attitude gyro, which limits yaw and roll, is driven by nitrogen. T + 1.35 sec.(~230 meters) - The IR sensors in the TSU switches from wide field of view (FOV) (+ 6 degrees) to medium FOV (+ 1.5 degrees). T + 1.6sec.(~350 meters) - The flight motor burns out. Missile velocity is approximately 1,080 ft / sec. (639 knots or 735 mph). T + 1.85 sec. - Automatic wire-cut occurs if no IR source. T + 2.0 sec.(500 meters) - Minimum effective range. T + 2.34 sec.(~520 meters) - TSU IR sensors medium FOV (+1.5 degrees) end; narrow FOV (+0.25 degrees) begins. Narrow FOV IR sensor is contained in 13 power lens. T + 3.9 sec.(1,000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 840 ft / sec (497 kts or 571.4 mph. T + 4.325 sec. - Control surfaces (flippers move at 12.5 cps instead of 25 cps to conserve helium gas in the high pressure bottle. T + 8.6 sec.(2000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 620 ft / second (367 kts or 422 mph). T + 14.8 sec.(3000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 450 ft / second (266 kts or 306 mph). T + 20.5 sec.(3750 Meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 375 ft / second (222 kts or 255 mph). Missile is at maximum range of the wire. |
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Quoted: The 24 second life span of the BGM-71 TOW missile begins 1.54 second before ignition at trigger pull. At this point several things happen. (1) Three batteries are activated that provide power to the electronics, the Xenon or thermal beacon and the actuator subsystem. (2) The attitude control gyro spins up to 42,000 rpm. (3) Electronic signals are balance between the Missile Command Amplifier and the missile. Finally, the engine ignites! The tube clearance engine, located in the back of the TOW produces 15,000 lbs. of thrust for 0.35 to 0.5 seconds and burns out before it leaves the tube. At the moment the front wings finish unfolding as they spring out after leaving the tube they close an electric circuit that causes the "flight" motor to ignite. This motor has two exhaust nozzles, one on each side of the rocket about half way up the body in order to avoid the center of gravity (CG) changing during flight. The flight motor ignites about seven meters from the launcher. Then, when the missile has reached between 35-70 meters from the launcher, the warhead is armed by acceleration G forces from the "flight" motor. Upon capture, the TOW missile becomes a closed-loop system. The Xenon beacon and thermal beacon ( TOW 2, TOW2A ) are installed in the rear of the missiles and are detected by the Xenon detector or thermal tracker in the TSU. Two wire dispensers are mounted on the rear of the missile at 90 and 270 degree positions. These dispensers contain 3,750 meters of single strand wire. Control surface flippers respond to signals from this wire command link. Helium powers the control actuators. The attitude gyro, which limits yaw and roll, is driven by nitrogen. T + 1.35 sec.(~230 meters) - The IR sensors in the TSU switches from wide field of view (FOV) (+ 6 degrees) to medium FOV (+ 1.5 degrees). T + 1.6sec.(~350 meters) - The flight motor burns out. Missile velocity is approximately 1,080 ft / sec. (639 knots or 735 mph). T + 1.85 sec. - Automatic wire-cut occurs if no IR source. T + 2.0 sec.(500 meters) - Minimum effective range. T + 2.34 sec.(~520 meters) - TSU IR sensors medium FOV (+1.5 degrees) end; narrow FOV (+0.25 degrees) begins. Narrow FOV IR sensor is contained in 13 power lens. T + 3.9 sec.(1,000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 840 ft / sec (497 kts or 571.4 mph. T + 4.325 sec. - Control surfaces (flippers move at 12.5 cps instead of 25 cps to conserve helium gas in the high pressure bottle. T + 8.6 sec.(2000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 620 ft / second (367 kts or 422 mph). T + 14.8 sec.(3000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 450 ft / second (266 kts or 306 mph). T + 20.5 sec.(3750 Meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 375 ft / second (222 kts or 255 mph). Missile is at maximum range of the wire. ....... Is this declassified?
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I was thinking this thread was about this: http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/xl/missile-balloons-for-your-car-xl.jpg Me too. Those need NSA written on the side of them. |
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The 24 second life span of the BGM-71 TOW missile begins 1.54 second before ignition at trigger pull. At this point several things happen. (1) Three batteries are activated that provide power to the electronics, the Xenon or thermal beacon and the actuator subsystem. (2) The attitude control gyro spins up to 42,000 rpm. (3) Electronic signals are balance between the Missile Command Amplifier and the missile. Finally, the engine ignites! The tube clearance engine, located in the back of the TOW produces 15,000 lbs. of thrust for 0.35 to 0.5 seconds and burns out before it leaves the tube. At the moment the front wings finish unfolding as they spring out after leaving the tube they close an electric circuit that causes the "flight" motor to ignite. This motor has two exhaust nozzles, one on each side of the rocket about half way up the body in order to avoid the center of gravity (CG) changing during flight. The flight motor ignites about seven meters from the launcher. Then, when the missile has reached between 35-70 meters from the launcher, the warhead is armed by acceleration G forces from the "flight" motor. Upon capture, the TOW missile becomes a closed-loop system. The Xenon beacon and thermal beacon ( TOW 2, TOW2A ) are installed in the rear of the missiles and are detected by the Xenon detector or thermal tracker in the TSU. Two wire dispensers are mounted on the rear of the missile at 90 and 270 degree positions. These dispensers contain 3,750 meters of single strand wire. Control surface flippers respond to signals from this wire command link. Helium powers the control actuators. The attitude gyro, which limits yaw and roll, is driven by nitrogen. T + 1.35 sec.(~230 meters) - The IR sensors in the TSU switches from wide field of view (FOV) (+ 6 degrees) to medium FOV (+ 1.5 degrees). T + 1.6sec.(~350 meters) - The flight motor burns out. Missile velocity is approximately 1,080 ft / sec. (639 knots or 735 mph). T + 1.85 sec. - Automatic wire-cut occurs if no IR source. T + 2.0 sec.(500 meters) - Minimum effective range. T + 2.34 sec.(~520 meters) - TSU IR sensors medium FOV (+1.5 degrees) end; narrow FOV (+0.25 degrees) begins. Narrow FOV IR sensor is contained in 13 power lens. T + 3.9 sec.(1,000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 840 ft / sec (497 kts or 571.4 mph. T + 4.325 sec. - Control surfaces (flippers move at 12.5 cps instead of 25 cps to conserve helium gas in the high pressure bottle. T + 8.6 sec.(2000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 620 ft / second (367 kts or 422 mph). T + 14.8 sec.(3000 meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 450 ft / second (266 kts or 306 mph). T + 20.5 sec.(3750 Meters) - Missile velocity is approximately 375 ft / second (222 kts or 255 mph). Missile is at maximum range of the wire. ....... Is this declassified? Yep, you got to remember that the we gave sold them to the Iranians who now make a TOW that used on older US launchers. |
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I was thinking this thread was about this: http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/xl/missile-balloons-for-your-car-xl.jpg I would love to have those. |
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Probably scared Soviet tankers shitless. AT a time - When you track gate a target you shoot out a PIR signal to get a range estimate This is very dangerous now a days as the Chinese have developed tanks that will automatically fire and respond to a THREAT it picked up the LRS on This system can be a very effective tank buster - Dress your Humvee up as a tree, drive up, shoot and get the fuck out. HOWEVER you gotta stay on target or the wire will break Ive heard on the grapevine they are trying to get rid of the wire - May have already - Fire and forget would be a huge improvement |
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My sentiments exactly. Looks completely different...where are you supposed to fill the flash pan? Quoted:
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They look really alien when they fire like some kind of neon flying wing. I would love to see one in person! http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2011.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2012.jpg http://www.hmmwvinscale.com/photos/XM1167/M1167-TOW/ITAS-Missile-Carrier/M1167%2010.jpg http://www.warwheels.net/images/M1167TOWdod%20%283%29.jpg Better look into a Tub God god man.... What have they done to my day and night sights???!!! It didn't look like that 20 years ago... My sentiments exactly. Looks completely different...where are you supposed to fill the flash pan? Shit... When I was using them we had to bang two rocks together to make a spark to launch the missile...
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Quoted: at least in the Airborne Brigades they just moved 11H into Delta Company while A , B, and C remained line companies and Delta's became Heavy Weapons Companies as an 11B or 11X We were tiny, 60-70 guys in the company usually but always the heaviest weapons and always first called to the party when shit went wrong - Delta Dawgs we were known from the line guys as they dismayed us riding around in our gun trucks but loved the firepower Quoted: Quoted: What MOS replaced 11H and 11HE9 at least in the Airborne Brigades they just moved 11H into Delta Company while A , B, and C remained line companies and Delta's became Heavy Weapons Companies as an 11B or 11X We were tiny, 60-70 guys in the company usually but always the heaviest weapons and always first called to the party when shit went wrong - Delta Dawgs we were known from the line guys as they dismayed us riding around in our gun trucks but loved the firepower |
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Is that what a TOW will really do to a tank or was that thing loaded with explosives to make a better visual? They pop tops - easy Alot of times you see video of Concrete training rounds - The real thing is deadly as fuck - the 2 Bravo explodes over the target and sends a secondary shape charge into the hull and kicks off all munitions
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What MOS replaced 11H and 11HE9 There's only two enlisted 11 series MOS. 11B is an Infantryman, and 11C is an Indirect Fire Infantryman. They got rid of the Mikes and Hotels a while ago. Well, I guess we still have 11Z, but that doesn't count. And 11X isn't an MOS qualification, it's more of a classification prior to being assigned as a Bravo or Charlie. |
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I can't imagine a small shaped charge being particularly effective against soft targets. Is there an HE version of the TOW? maybe a programmable fuze for air burst? Quoted:
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I saw a TOW-2B miss some lucky insurgent by a few feet and the guy get up and run away. I can't imagine a small shaped charge being particularly effective against soft targets. Is there an HE version of the TOW? maybe a programmable fuze for air burst? Designation Description Length Diameter Wingspan Launch weight Warhead Armor penetration (est.) Range Speed[citation needed] XBGM-71A/BGM-71A Hughes Tube launched Optically tracked Wire command link guided (TOW) Missile 1.16 m 0.152 m 0.46 m 18.9 kg 3.9 kg (2.4 kg HE) HEAT 430 mm (exact value) 65–3,750?m 278?m/s BGM-71B BGM-71A variant; improved range BGM-71C BGM-71B variant; Improved TOW (ITOW) w/ improved shaped-charge warhead 1.41?m (probe extended) 1.17?m (probe folded) 19.1 kg 630 mm (exact value) BGM-71D BGM-71C variant; TOW-2, improved guidance, motor and enlarged main warhead 1.51?m (probe extended) 1.17?m (probe folded) 21.5 kg 5.9 kg (3.1 kg HE) HEAT 900 mm BGM-71E BGM-71D variant; TOW-2A optimized to defeat reactive armor with tandem warheads 22.6?kg 900 mm (behind ERA) (and layer of ERA) BGM-71F BGM-71D variant; TOW-2B top-down attack variant using explosively formed penetrators 1.168?m no data BGM-71G BGM-71F variant; different AP warhead; not produced no data no data no data no data BGM-71H BGM-71E variant; "bunker buster" variant for use against fortified structures no data no data no data no data |
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the Tow 2B - You can go in the menu of the ITAS and select mode .. Bravo words like a shape charge alpha is a through and through missle - I think they have added some more stuff too Anyone Else earned an Ashtray?
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg426/rangerjake82/IMG_20130908_130530_797_zps27fc308a.jpg Quoted:
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Are there HE/frag missiles for TOWs for use against soft targets like there are Hellfires, or do they always have the same warhead? the Tow 2B - You can go in the menu of the ITAS and select mode .. Bravo words like a shape charge alpha is a through and through missle - I think they have added some more stuff too Anyone Else earned an Ashtray?
http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg426/rangerjake82/IMG_20130908_130530_797_zps27fc308a.jpg No, we keep the o ring and after you fire your first one, you may or may not have to wear it around your neck while everybody pulls on it and whips it at you
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Quoted: Two wire dispensers are mounted on the rear of the missile at 90 and 270 degree positions. These dispensers contain 3,750 meters of single strand wire. Also... Helium!?!? How do you keep the missile shelf-stable and keep it from leaking out? |