Posted: 8/19/2013 5:29:16 PM EDT
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I have a question on Glocks but let me start by saying I'm not a fan boy as I own and shoot many different types of pistols.
As of now I have the following in my collection- 5- 1911's (1 in 10mm and the others are 45acp) 2- Sig P220's 1- Sig P938 1- XD 45 Tactical 1- XDS 45 S&W 327PD S&W 329PD S&W 686 2- Ruger SP101 .327 Magnum S&W MP9 And recently bought a Glock 20 and Glock 29. So I have my bases covered with different brands and types of pistols. My question about Glocks is about the failures I seen people joking about. Are the failures really as prevalent as some make it appear? Are the failures limited to certain caliber or type? I have really enjoyed shooting both my 10mm's the past few weeks. And I was curious to know if the exploding Glock legend is more of a much or really based in fact. |
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Mostly limited to bad ammo in gen2 .40 caliber Glock 22s and 23s. .40 is a high pressure round and bullet setback or overcharging combined with the Glock chamber in the earlier unsupported chamber barrels led to disaster. Mostly it just cracked the frame and/or barrel with little or no damage to the shooter. |
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I guess I could have been more clear. I'm not worried about having one blow up in my hand, I'm buying my wife a G26 this week so I'm confident in them.
I have been around 1911 guys for years that continually talk shit about Glocks which is one of the reasons I never bought one. But after buying a few I have found I am accurate with them and enjoy the simplicity of them. After I bought my G20 I went shooting with the 1911 guys, I got razzed pretty bad and told relentlessly that it was going to explode, I put a whole box of a buffalo bore 180gr(1350FPS) thru the gun with no drama. So I start asking them what what Glock have you seen explode? I can't ever get an answer. So I know I've seen the Internet pics and was wanting to know if the failures were due bad manufacturing or more importantly was it someone shooting hand loads? |
| I've been shooting Glocks (9mm, 40S&W, 10mm, 45ACP) since 1991, and been to more than a few GSSF matches, and I've never seen a kaboom except online. Thats not saying the less supported chamber + hot loads don't cause blowouts, just I've never witnessed it, and I don't think its as prevalent as Dean Speir would have you believe. |
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 Is that for my post? Or the exploding glock? This. My girlfriends G26 will kick brass right on your face Have you considered changing the extractor? I have owned a Gen 1 model 17, Gen 2 model 17, various Gen 3s and a Gen 4. All will do brass to face, especially if one limp wrists. Not a new phenomenon. Might be a tad worse with the newest ones, but they've always done it. Folks need to get over it. Improve your grip, wear eye pro, don't be a little girl. |
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Good grief.
I've been shooting Glocks since the early 90's -- tens of thousands of rounds. All my friends have shot Glocks for 20 years. Zero issues. I can count on one hand the number of malfunctions. And i dont know of anyone who knows or has heard of anyone in 20 years have a KB. The problem - which used to happen a lot more years ago; is that stupid fool shooters would do one of two things: 1) Buy dirt cheap, i mean CHEAP lead solid roloaded bullets. They are usually sold in lots of 50 or 100 and these damn fool idiots would shoot thousands of rounds in their Glocks. As anyone who can read; the instruction manual states NO LEAD RELOADS!!! So these cheap assed bullets,. being made of the softest, cheapest lead would leave a little coating on the inside of the Glock barrels. Since there is no "rifling" in Glock barrels; the lead would keep making the tolerances smaller. It created an overpressure situation; Next thing you know; Biff's Glock blows up! OH NOOOO GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No idiots; you shot the wrong kind of ammo. Ammo MUST be jacketed ammo. 2) Morons chamber the same goddam bullet time and again - and because they are too stupid and cheap to rotate their ammo; the bullet was set-back into the case. Once again -- overpressure which will blow up any gun. OH NOOOOO, GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No, you retards need to rotate your ammo and not chamber the same stupid bullet 50 times into the gun while you finger bang your gun every evening. I just covered 99% of all Glock KB. There are 1 bazillion documented rounds going thru Glocks with zero issues. The handfull of idoits ruin it for everyone else. |
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Good grief. I've been shooting Glocks since the early 90's -- tens of thousands of rounds. All my friends have shot Glocks for 20 years. Zero issues. I can count on one hand the number of malfunctions. And i dont know of anyone who knows or has heard of anyone in 20 years have a KB. The problem - which used to happen a lot more years ago; is that stupid fool shooters would do one of two things: 1) Buy dirt cheap, i mean CHEAP lead solid roloaded bullets. They are usually sold in lots of 50 or 100 and these damn fool idiots would shoot thousands of rounds in their Glocks. As anyone who can read; the instruction manual states NO LEAD RELOADS!!! So these cheap assed bullets,. being made of the softest, cheapest lead would leave a little coating on the inside of the Glock barrels. Since there is no "rifling" in Glock barrels; the lead would keep making the tolerances smaller. It created an overpressure situation; Next thing you know; Biff's Glock blows up! OH NOOOO GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No idiots; you shot the wrong kind of ammo. 2) Morons chamber the same goddam bullet time and again - and because they are too stupid and cheap to rotate their ammo; the bullet was set-back into the case; once again; overpressure which will blow up any gun. OH NOOOOO, GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No retards; need to rotate your ammo and not chamber the same stupid bullet 50 times into the gun while you finger bang your gun every evening. I just covered 99% of all Glock KB. There are 1 bazillion documented rounds going thru Glocks with zero issues. The handfull of idoits ruin it for everyone else. Thanks, that's the response I was looking for. |
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I have owned a Gen 1 model 17, Gen 2 model 17, various Gen 3s and a Gen 4. All will do brass to face, especially if one limp wrists. Not a new phenomenon. Might be a tad worse with the newest ones, but they've always done it. Folks need to get over it. Improve your grip, wear eye pro, don't be a little girl. Quoted:
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Is that for my post? Or the exploding glock? This. My girlfriends G26 will kick brass right on your face Have you considered changing the extractor? I have owned a Gen 1 model 17, Gen 2 model 17, various Gen 3s and a Gen 4. All will do brass to face, especially if one limp wrists. Not a new phenomenon. Might be a tad worse with the newest ones, but they've always done it. Folks need to get over it. Improve your grip, wear eye pro, don't be a little girl. I've not experienced any brass to the face with any of my Gen 3 or 4 Glocks. |
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Good grief. I've been shooting Glocks since the early 90's -- tens of thousands of rounds. All my friends have shot Glocks for 20 years. Zero issues. I can count on one hand the number of malfunctions. And i dont know of anyone who knows or has heard of anyone in 20 years have a KB. The problem - which used to happen a lot more years ago; is that stupid fool shooters would do one of two things: 1) Buy dirt cheap, i mean CHEAP lead solid roloaded bullets. They are usually sold in lots of 50 or 100 and these damn fool idiots would shoot thousands of rounds in their Glocks. As anyone who can read; the instruction manual states NO LEAD RELOADS!!! So these cheap assed bullets,. being made of the softest, cheapest lead would leave a little coating on the inside of the Glock barrels. Since there is no "rifling" in Glock barrels; the lead would keep making the tolerances smaller. It created an overpressure situation; Next thing you know; Biff's Glock blows up! OH NOOOO GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No idiots; you shot the wrong kind of ammo. Ammo MUST be jacketed ammo. 2) Morons chamber the same goddam bullet time and again - and because they are too stupid and cheap to rotate their ammo; the bullet was set-back into the case. Once again -- overpressure which will blow up any gun. OH NOOOOO, GLOCKS ARE THE SUCK! No, you retards need to rotate your ammo and not chamber the same stupid bullet 50 times into the gun while you finger bang your gun every evening. I just covered 99% of all Glock KB. There are 1 bazillion documented rounds going thru Glocks with zero issues. The handfull of idoits ruin it for everyone else. What you didn't address is glocks chambers. The unsupported area is larger than most. This make glocks run well but it is also why they go kaboom more than other brands. |
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I notice the two .40 cal Glocks I purchased this year seem to have a little more chamber support than the G29 I bought in 1997. I never had a KB with the G29 but it bulges the cases pretty good.
I notice the new .40 cals are trying to make my Sigs feel insecure in the accuracy dept. One would think that the little extra chamber support also increased accuracy. |
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Limited to the .40's really... The .40 Glock have been called the worst of the Glock line by a lot of experienced people, The 9mm's are the best of the line.
The G20 is pretty darn good, there were some complaints about the G21 years back, but they changed some things and they have supposedly gotten better. The 45GAP is a dog as well. I'm a 1911 guy and don't love Glocks... But, I carry a Glock 9mm now. They are inexpensive, they work, and you have to be a total dumb-fuck not to be able to change parts. I've been wanting a 10mm and will probably get a G20, I don't want to spend the money on a Colt. If you just absolutely have to have a .40s&w (why is beyond me), the M&P40 is the better choice... It was actually designed as a 40s&w, unlike the Glock. |
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Quoted: I guess I could have been more clear. I'm not worried about having one blow up in my hand, I'm buying my wife a G26 this week so I'm confident in them. I have been around 1911 guys for years that continually talk shit about Glocks which is one of the reasons I never bought one. But after buying a few I have found I am accurate with them and enjoy the simplicity of them. After I bought my G20 I went shooting with the 1911 guys, I got razzed pretty bad and told relentlessly that it was going to explode, I put a whole box of a buffalo bore 180gr(1350FPS) thru the gun with no drama. So I start asking them what what Glock have you seen explode? I can't ever get an answer. So I know I've seen the Internet pics and was wanting to know if the failures were due bad manufacturing or more importantly was it someone shooting hand loads? There is a small group of G20 fans that take some small joy creating hot loads for the G20. I do this with the stock barrel, even, using Blue Dot. I stop at bulged cases. I haven't heard of a failure. Truly impressive ballistics are attainable. G20, hot loaded, is impressive at night  Edit - my first G20's barrel bulged cases more easily than the one I bought new two years ago. I'd get a Lone Wolf 6" barrel if you want to go crazy here Hot loads:  |
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I have G-19, 21, 22, 23, & 17 gen 3's and 17 is Gen4.
I haven't had any issues with any of them. No brass to face, no explosions, no problems. EDC is the 19 which is also the one I can shoot the best out of all my hand guns. ( I have a few 1911's Kimber & Colt) Im not sure you will ever get an honest answer on here from folks anything you type the word Glock in a thread. I just dont think they sell millions of guns because "they look cool in the movies" |
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I have a question on Glocks but let me start by saying I'm not a fan boy as I own and shoot many different types of pistols. As of now I have the following in my collection- 5- 1911's (1 in 10mm and the others are 45acp) 2- Sig P220's 1- Sig P938 1- XD 45 Tactical 1- XDS 45 S&W 327PD S&W 329PD S&W 686 2- Ruger SP101 .327 Magnum S&W MP9 And recently bought a Glock 20 and Glock 29. So I have my bases covered with different brands and types of pistols. My question about Glocks is about the failures I seen people joking about. Are the failures really as prevalent as some make it appear? Are the failures limited to certain caliber or type? I have really enjoyed shooting both my 10mm's the past few weeks. And I was curious to know if the exploding Glock legend is more of a much or really based in fact. well, the locak SO used to carry glock 40's, but got rid of them because of the malfunctions they were getting...they went to the 9mm, i guess those didnt have the same problem when a light was attached. but, yes, I have seen failure rates on par with most main stream manufactures. the glock does not deserve the pedistal that some people put it on. |