[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Strider Knives?? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/19/2013 5:57:58 AM EDT
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Am I the only one who thinks they are aesthetically ugly as sin???
I do not mind paying top dollar for quality items, but for god's sake make a knife sexy, hardcore and badass looking. This is merely my meager opinion and I also know I will catch hell for this but I just think they are some of the ugliest knives for top dollar 
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Quoted: Criminals? I thought they were prior military? What am I missing ?? Quoted: Quoted: Overpriced knives made by posers and criminals Criminals? I thought they were prior military? What am I missing ?? |
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Thought they looked good until I found the backstory behind Strider. Can't see how people support the company at all now. Can you summarize backstory or link it? From the posted link: Summary: Mick Strider’s birth name is Mickey Ray Burger.
Mick Strider claims he served in the 2/75th Rangers. .At some point Mick posted a copy of his DD214. Allegations were made that it was altered, specifically that he entered “Honorable” (note mixed case lettering) in the discharge block. Mick Strider claims that he is a combat veteran. Mick Strider claims that during service, he developed a spinal injury, causing him to lose jump status, resulting in his discharge. Mick Strider later claims that this injury led him to incur disciplinary action (whether Article 15 or other not known), and be discharged from service as an E1 Court documents involving a libel & defamation case against Mick Strider include a settlement where he states his discharge from Army service as an E1, and barred from reenlistment. Part of the settlement agreement includes statemens refuting combat claims and "black ops" experience. Military.com shows Mickey Ray Burger as having a final rank of E1. From 1986 to 1993 there is no information on Mick Strider's activities. Evidence of Special Operations affiliation during this time is absent and not provided. Mick Strider states that after his time in the Army, he "rolled" with some "heavy" hitters and alludes that this time was spend performing Special Operations missions during magazine articles. Mick Strider claims in 1993 he was "tasked" with obtaining a vehicle and stole it / carjacked it. It is intimated that this was done while operating in a “black ops” unit. He was arrested and convicted for this crime. Mick Strider claims that during sentencing, the prosecutor was supposed to ask for his sentence to be one year’s service in Somalia, with his pay forfeit. Given the nature of the other claims, this service is intimated to be Special Operations in nature, especially given his attempts to tie it to the deaths of Rangers in Mogadishu during that time. Mick Strider does not “serve for a year in Somalia” and was instead sentenced to 5 years in prison. After release from prison in 1998, Mick Strider started Strider Knives. Following Mick Strider’s release from prison, he builds a reputation that his products are based on Special Operations and combat experience. Numerous magazine articles are written alleging to this experience and how it makes his product a better choice. Mick Strider makes numerous statements online that his is a combat veteran, and makes references to carrying and using firearms, despite revelations that he is, in fact a convicted felon. Current collaborations with other businesses list Mick Strider as former Special Operations personnel. I'm sure someone will be along shortly defending him and his knives. |
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From the posted link: Summary: I'm sure someone will be along shortly defending him and his knives. Quoted:
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Thought they looked good until I found the backstory behind Strider. Can't see how people support the company at all now. Can you summarize backstory or link it? From the posted link: Summary: Mick Strider’s birth name is Mickey Ray Burger.
Mick Strider claims he served in the 2/75th Rangers. .At some point Mick posted a copy of his DD214. Allegations were made that it was altered, specifically that he entered “Honorable” (note mixed case lettering) in the discharge block. Mick Strider claims that he is a combat veteran. Mick Strider claims that during service, he developed a spinal injury, causing him to lose jump status, resulting in his discharge. Mick Strider later claims that this injury led him to incur disciplinary action (whether Article 15 or other not known), and be discharged from service as an E1 Court documents involving a libel & defamation case against Mick Strider include a settlement where he states his discharge from Army service as an E1, and barred from reenlistment. Part of the settlement agreement includes statemens refuting combat claims and "black ops" experience. Military.com shows Mickey Ray Burger as having a final rank of E1. From 1986 to 1993 there is no information on Mick Strider's activities. Evidence of Special Operations affiliation during this time is absent and not provided. Mick Strider states that after his time in the Army, he "rolled" with some "heavy" hitters and alludes that this time was spend performing Special Operations missions during magazine articles. Mick Strider claims in 1993 he was "tasked" with obtaining a vehicle and stole it / carjacked it. It is intimated that this was done while operating in a “black ops” unit. He was arrested and convicted for this crime. Mick Strider claims that during sentencing, the prosecutor was supposed to ask for his sentence to be one year’s service in Somalia, with his pay forfeit. Given the nature of the other claims, this service is intimated to be Special Operations in nature, especially given his attempts to tie it to the deaths of Rangers in Mogadishu during that time. Mick Strider does not “serve for a year in Somalia” and was instead sentenced to 5 years in prison. After release from prison in 1998, Mick Strider started Strider Knives. Following Mick Strider’s release from prison, he builds a reputation that his products are based on Special Operations and combat experience. Numerous magazine articles are written alleging to this experience and how it makes his product a better choice. Mick Strider makes numerous statements online that his is a combat veteran, and makes references to carrying and using firearms, despite revelations that he is, in fact a convicted felon. Current collaborations with other businesses list Mick Strider as former Special Operations personnel. I'm sure someone will be along shortly defending him and his knives. There's no defending that kind of shit if true. Still good knives, but that guy is a piece of shit. |
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From Bladeforums: an easy search over there produces the legal documents.
The non-violent claims of this crime, however, are belied by the charges filed in CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 93-CR-693-ALL, USA v. Strider (see attached file USA_v._Strider_Docket_Info.doc) Further evidence of the crime’s violent nature is found when the bond is set at $1,000,000 |
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Thought they looked good until I found the backstory behind Strider. Can't see how people support the company at all now. They do a lot for the military in the way of contributions and support, but I don't think there's a more hotly discussed topic on Bladeforums than the background of Strider Knives and their owners. Interestingly enough, there are many active duty military guys that will be their most vocal supporters based on their products and what they do now, and completely dismiss their backgrounds even when presented with the facts. |
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They do a lot for the military in the way of contributions and support, but I don't think there's a more hotly discussed topic on Bladeforums than the background of Strider Knives and their owners. Interestingly enough, there are many active duty military guys that will be their most vocal supporters based on their products and what they do now, and completely dismiss their backgrounds even when presented with the facts. Quoted:
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Thought they looked good until I found the backstory behind Strider. Can't see how people support the company at all now. They do a lot for the military in the way of contributions and support, but I don't think there's a more hotly discussed topic on Bladeforums than the background of Strider Knives and their owners. Interestingly enough, there are many active duty military guys that will be their most vocal supporters based on their products and what they do now, and completely dismiss their backgrounds even when presented with the facts. That's not a unique situation. |
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I know the ZT knives show that it was a combined project with Kershaw, Ken Onion and Strider. How much Strider is in a Zero Tolerance? I thought that was Rick Hinderer and Ken Onion, don't recall Strider being a part of ZT design but I could be wrong. ETA: I am wrong: Zero Tolerance Combat Knives, a colaboration between Kai USA, Ken Onion and Strider Knives to bring you a new series of professional-grade combat knives built to survive the harsh, real-world situations that confront you every day. http://www.ztknives.us/ |
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Overpriced knives made by posers and criminals This. Their fixed blades are the most puzzling. It's literally a piece of bar stock which someone fed into a belt sander, spray painted, and then wrapped in paracord. Am I missing something? The backstory is just the cherry on top - I'll never buy anything from them. |
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This. Their fixed blades are the most puzzling. It's literally a piece of bar stock which someone fed into a belt sander, spray painted, and then wrapped in paracord. Am I missing something? It's different because the barstock is THICKER than other knives. That makes it worth the premium. |
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Overpriced knives made by posers and criminals Yep. They're certainly well made, tough knives, but very primitive in design. Sold the couple I had when I learned about Strider. The best [sic] part is that all of that came out b/c Strider got sued for defaming and questioning the service of the owner from TAG (a verified former Marine and combat vet SEAL). |
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Solidly built knives made from ATS-34 bar stock. I don't think you could break one outside of extreme abuse. Worth the price? Not to me at least. For a while they (along with the SOE patrol vest and accessories) were sort of a status symbol in the west coast USMC recon and STA community. If you were a cool guy you had to rock a complete SOE patrol vest with your strider knife...and sunglasses. For those who don't know, Strider and SOE shared the same building in Oceanside, CA outside Camp Pendleton before the Great Cataclysm circa 2001. Pre 9/11 I could go to SOE and get a custom project done in one month. Great gear...albeit with some questionable history. |
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I thought that was Rick Hinderer and Ken Onion, don't recall Strider being a part of ZT design but I could be wrong. ETA: I am wrong: Zero Tolerance Combat Knives, a colaboration between Kai USA, Ken Onion and Strider Knives to bring you a new series of professional-grade combat knives built to survive the harsh, real-world situations that confront you every day. http://www.ztknives.us/ Quoted:
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I know the ZT knives show that it was a combined project with Kershaw, Ken Onion and Strider. How much Strider is in a Zero Tolerance? I thought that was Rick Hinderer and Ken Onion, don't recall Strider being a part of ZT design but I could be wrong. ETA: I am wrong: Zero Tolerance Combat Knives, a colaboration between Kai USA, Ken Onion and Strider Knives to bring you a new series of professional-grade combat knives built to survive the harsh, real-world situations that confront you every day. http://www.ztknives.us/ Zero Tolerance's first knives were collaborations between Strider and Onion. Onion designed the blades, and get this, Strider designed the grip texture. That only applies to the 0121, 0200, and 0300. Strider only designed one knife for ZT and that was their flop of a bayonet. Here's the oruginal prototype 0300 designed solely by Ken Onion. The rest of the changes were supervised by custom knife maker Tim Gaylean. He's a KAI employee so he never gets the credit he deserves for honing their designs. 
The rest of ZT's designs Strider had nothing to do with, even inckuding the 0350 even though it's influenced by the 0300. Rick Hinderer is now their go to designer, and neither Strider nor Ken Onion supply new designs to KAI. I still want an 0300, though the first thing I would do is replace the Strider scale on it. |
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One of the reasons I got mine was to be able to pry stuff, so I appreciated that attribute at the time. Quoted:
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pry bars Strider makes. One of the reasons I got mine was to be able to pry stuff, so I appreciated that attribute at the time. I won't lie. I have a few knives that are on the thick side. If you baton wood (haven't done it since I was a kid, though knife reviewers make it seem that it's a 3 times a day task) a thick blade is nice. |
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Don't quote me but one guy was dishonorably discharged for car jacking and the other was a computer guy in the military who claims he was some kind of commando. Quoted:
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Overpriced knives made by posers and criminals Criminals? I thought they were prior military? What am I missing ?? I quoted you. 
Strider was actually dishonorably discharged for going AWOL during training. He wasn't in very long, and the car jacking happened almost a decade later. |
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SOB that's sweet. 
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SOB that's sweet. I've got one with a CF scale, thing is bulletproof and Mike is a solid Christian man who stands behind his work |
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SOB that's sweet. It's larger than the ZT0300 which is pushing the limits of a pocket folder. I'd love one but the ZT0300 meets my needs well enough I've stopped looking for other folders. |
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It's larger than the ZT0300 which is pushing the limits of a pocket folder. I'd love one but the ZT0300 meets my needs well enough I've stopped looking for other folders. Quoted:
It's larger than the ZT0300 which is pushing the limits of a pocket folder. I'd love one but the ZT0300 meets my needs well enough I've stopped looking for other folders. It's a big blade, for sure, but I have no problems carrying it. |
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I find Emerson's to be even more over hyped than Striders. Quoted:
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I like Emerson knives myself.  I find Emerson's to be even more over hyped than Striders. At least Ernie Emerson is a decent dude. I've got a CQC-15 that I've had for years. Nice knife but I don't really trust the liner lock. I've wanted to send it out for a frame lock conversion for a while, now. |
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It's a big blade, for sure, but I have no problems carrying it. Quoted:
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It's larger than the ZT0300 which is pushing the limits of a pocket folder. I'd love one but the ZT0300 meets my needs well enough I've stopped looking for other folders. It's a big blade, for sure, but I have no problems carrying it. Excellent, it is a beautiful knife and appears to be high quality. |
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SOB that's sweet. You'd like the full Ti Dua too. In stock too. 
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