[ARCHIVED THREAD] - .45 GAP (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 8/1/2013 10:54:20 AM EDT
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Is it worth having?
only reason why I ask is because a brand new upper is availavle for the unattached lower I have collecting dust |
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Ammo cost sucks for the pistol when you can find it. My mom uses my G37 because she likes the pistol.
Benefits of the G37 that should have been carried over to other Glocks was the rounded muzzle end of the slide why will Glock not do this to all the pistols other than subs. |
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The only advantage is that you're one of a very few in the pool looking for that ammo.
Problem is that the ammo manufacturers know that too. In a few years, it'll be like trying to feed a .25-20, an expensive pain in the ass. You might get in on a few big wins on clearance sales though. Market forces aside, it's not a terrible cartridge. Those market forces are just a very powerful downside. |
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not to hijack, but I will.
dead cartridges are "dead" just like oddballs can be problematic. I was in a local gunstore last week and a man was in there having a low level meltdown because he was scheduled to go on a prairie dog hunt out of state this month, but the largest shop in Tulsa didn't have any bullets he needed in stock or loaded ammo for his dog gun. ( .204 ruger). .223/.22-50 and other varmit style ammo and components were everywhere. this ammuntion supply and demand has really opened by eyes to what will be stocked longterm. .45 Auto- hell yeah. .45 Gap?- umm no. |
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I like the GAP, but the ACP or bust crowd has done a wonderful job of killing it.
Ammo supply can be tricky, unless you handload. I overheard a LGS tell a customer, who wanted what the PA State Police carry, "The .45 GAP is a 1/10 of an inch away from a real round. You need a .45 ACP!!" The clerk put a G21SF into his hands and the buyer said it felt "big". The clerk told him, "That's because it's made in a MAN's cartridge, the .45 ACP!". They guy ended up buying neither, so the store did not make any money, but at least the clerk got to tell a guy his opinion. |
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There's more industry support for .357 Sig. More ammo on the shelves, more guns that shoot it. Quoted:
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worse than 357SIG Settle down now. There's more industry support for .357 Sig. More ammo on the shelves, more guns that shoot it. Actually getting fairly popular. Sells more than 10mm even. 
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That really wouldn't be a problem for a dedicated reloader. All the components are readily available for other calibers other than brass, and IIRC you can trim 45ACP brass down to make it. It's not a horrible idea and I can see myself buying one if found dirt cheap. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The theory made sense in a compact firearm. So, if you are standardizing calibers and you have a carry gun in 45GAP it might make sense, assuming you handload. Other than that I can't really think of a reason to do it.
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Actually getting fairly popular. Sells more than 10mm even. Quoted:
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worse than 357SIG Settle down now. There's more industry support for .357 Sig. More ammo on the shelves, more guns that shoot it. Actually getting fairly popular. Sells more than 10mm even. Is that by rounds of ammo sold or Glocks production numbers? |
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Bought a G38 a couple years back. It was an OD-frame model and I got a great deal on it when others were paying outrageous prices for OD-frame glocks. I liked the concept of a smaller frame .45 -- a lot! I have small hands, and while I can manage a G20/G21-sized pistol, I can't do so comfortably, or accurately when shooting fast.
IMHO there is nothing wrong with the GAP, but it was fighting an uphill battle to gain acceptance from the moment it was introduced. When I saw the writing on the wall and realized it would never be anything other than a hard-to-get niche cartridge, I got rid of mine. |
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worse than 357SIG Settle down now. There's more industry support for .357 Sig. More ammo on the shelves, more guns that shoot it. Actually getting fairly popular. Sells more than 10mm even. Is that by rounds of ammo sold or Glocks production numbers? Ammo sales yes, Glock sales more than likely. Not to many Govt contracts for 10mm glocks. |
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worse than 357SIG Settle down now. There's more industry support for .357 Sig. More ammo on the shelves, more guns that shoot it. Actually getting fairly popular. Sells more than 10mm even. 357 sig rocks. The problem with gap is that the full size guns have little to no additional capacity over a 1911. |
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Even 9x23 and 22 TCM would be better choices since they do things the 45ACP can't. Quoted:
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Better off with a .38 Super or a 10 MM.  Even 9x23 and 22 TCM would be better choices since they do things the 45ACP can't. The GAP was only meant to do one thing the ACP can't... fit in a smaller frame (and get Gaston's name on a cartridge). Those cartridges don't do that either. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I disagree. I think there's a place for a .45 round that fits in a (roughly) 9mm-sized handgun. Unfortunately, there just doesn't seem to be enough demand for it to justify large scale production. Quoted:
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No. It's pointless. I disagree. I think there's a place for a .45 round that fits in a (roughly) 9mm-sized handgun. Unfortunately, there just doesn't seem to be enough demand for it to justify large scale production. This is the correct post. |
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Federal alone lists four different loadings on their website. Quoted:
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Does anyone still make .45 GAP ammo?  Does anyone still make it or not? Do you even know? Federal alone lists four different loadings on their website. Okay, fine. You could have just said that. |
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Okay, fine. You could have just said that. Quoted:
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Does anyone still make .45 GAP ammo? Does anyone still make it or not? Do you even know? Federal alone lists four different loadings on their website. Okay, fine. You could have just said that. And you, sir, could have just not asked the question in the first place. A lot of niche/obsolete/quirky calibers are still manufactured in order to satisfy the people who own niche/obsolete/quirky guns. |
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And you, sir, could have just not asked the question in the first place. A lot of niche/obsolete/quirky calibers are still manufactured in order to satisfy the people who own niche/obsolete/quirky guns. Quoted:
Quoted: And you, sir, could have just not asked the question in the first place. A lot of niche/obsolete/quirky calibers are still manufactured in order to satisfy the people who own niche/obsolete/quirky guns. And you could have just not responded to me. I asked because I didn't know. And it's not your place to tell me what I should or should not post. It was an honest question. |
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I asked because I didn't know. And it's not your place to tell me what I should or should not post. It was an honest question. Quoted:
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Quoted: And you, sir, could have just not asked the question in the first place. A lot of niche/obsolete/quirky calibers are still manufactured in order to satisfy the people who own niche/obsolete/quirky guns. I asked because I didn't know. And it's not your place to tell me what I should or should not post. It was an honest question. HOLY SHIT LARRY, YOU THINK? Quoted:
Okay, fine. You could have just said that. |