[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Old firecracker values (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/2/2013 5:42:19 AM EDT
I've had these since the late 70's early 80's. Stuffed in two 20mm ammo cans and forgotten on a shelf in the garage. I know they are collectable, but not how much to ask or accept? |
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I know they are collectable, but not how much to ask or accept?
Really? I never would have guessed that. Link I don't know about the ones in the OP, as you can still buy them with those labels or very similar ones. |
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I know they are collectable, but not how much to ask or accept?
Really? I never would have guessed that. Link I don't know about the ones in the OP, as you can still buy them with those labels or very similar ones. That's what I was thinking. They look the same as stuff we blew up a few years back, and that was all purchased new from what I understand. Either they're no big deal, or we lit off a bajillion dollars in hot tub time machine firecrackers. 
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Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." |
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Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." im pretty sure block busters were what was considered a 1/4 stick by lore not a crappy little m80 |
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Quoted: Those are full bricks 1280 per brick, except fr one that is 80 packs of 12 instead of 16. Was just offered $475 for all 16 bricks and a few old Zizzbangs. What makes them worth more than new made is the label having a DOT rating instead of a UN marking. These all all over 30 years old.Dam, are those " bricks " or just single packs ? |
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Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." im pretty sure block busters were what was considered a 1/4 stick by lore not a crappy little m80 No, it's the M80 that was always called a 1/4 stick. A quick google will confirm that myth. "I also read or hear about statements comparing an M-80 to a "quarter stick of dynamite" or similar exaggerations. Wrong. To begin with, a "quarter stick" of dynamite has 35 grams of pyrotechnic content, while a true M-80 has just under 3 grams. So even if they had a same chemical composition, an M-80 would have less than 10% of the power of a quarter stick of dynamite. But the composition in dynamite (which varies widely) is a high explosive, while the chemical composition in an M-80 (so-called "flash powder") is a low explosive, at least from a scientific standpoint. So really there is no legitimate way to compare an M-80 with a quarter stick of dynamite." |
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I dare ya to light one off in your hand! I seem to remember that as they got old the wick either didn't burn at all, or burned super fast. A candle has a wick. Firecrackers have fuses. Meh, failed attempt at humor. I'll return to my hole under the rock now. |
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Those are full bricks 1280 per brick, except fr one that is 80 packs of 12 instead of 16. Was just offered $475 for all 16 bricks and a few old Zizzbangs. What makes them worth more than new made is the label having a DOT rating instead of a UN marking. These all all over 30 years old.
Dam, are those " bricks " or just single packs ? If that's more than the current cost of the same thing with a different label, I'll sell them in a heartbeat. I just don't see extra value in old-style labels on something like that, personally, unless you have your own collection you display. |
| Those old Thunder Bomb crackers are the "Horse Head Brand" marked packages. The New ones are "Tiger Head Brand". I haven't seen the old ones for a decade or two. The old ones were a better cracker (more reliable and left nothing but tiny confetti after they go off), and have collector interest. |
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I dare ya to light one off in your hand! I seem to remember that as they got old the wick either didn't burn at all, or burned super fast. A candle has a wick. Firecrackers have fuses. Meh, failed attempt at humor. I'll return to my hole under the rock now. 
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Quoted: I've had these since the late 70's early 80's. Stuffed in two 20mm ammo cans and forgotten on a shelf in the garage. I know they are collectable, but not how much to ask or accept? http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w260/lugerman_album/Bricks_zpsa1b2d0b4.jpg Seriously? A match (or punk stick). |
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Those aren't firecrackers. "Now these are firecrackers!!" (Thanks Crocodile Dundee) <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/18_Zulu/Firecracker.jpg</a> I was helping the local fish and game guys with deer depredation problems and they gave me several boxes of these as a way of saying thanks. Dude. Where can I get a box of those. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." im pretty sure block busters were what was considered a 1/4 stick by lore not a crappy little m80 No, it's the M80 that was always called a 1/4 stick. A quick google will confirm that myth. It's not a "myth", it's just slang  M-80s are M-80s and IIRC, it's supposed to be 3.5 grams of flash; based on the old military detonation simulator. 1/4 sticks, Block-Busters, Cop-callers, etc...have always been something around 3/4 ID tubes, 3" (or longer) in length, and containing 10+ grams of flash. The fact that you even googled that leads me to wonder what sort of sad, explosive free childhood you had  Speed |
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Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." im pretty sure block busters were what was considered a 1/4 stick by lore not a crappy little m80 No, it's the M80 that was always called a 1/4 stick. A quick google will confirm that myth. It's not a "myth", it's just slang
M-80s are M-80s and IIRC, it's supposed to be 3.5 grams of flash; based on the old military detonation simulator. 1/4 sticks, Block-Busters, Cop-callers, etc...have always been something around 3/4 ID tubes, 3" (or longer) in length, and containing 10+ grams of flash. The fact that you even googled that leads me to wonder what sort of sad, explosive free childhood you had
Speed No, it's a myth, not a slang. I've had my fair share of lighting off M-80s and fireworks throughout my life. People only call them 1/4 sticks, as they thought that's what they were. They wouldn't be called 1/4 sticks if those rumors were not spread. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your lack of M-80 1/4 sticks of dynomite disturbs me. "Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite. Dynamite generally contains a stable nitroglycerin based high explosive, whereas M-80s or any other kind of firecracker contains a low explosive powder, like flash powder or black powder." im pretty sure block busters were what was considered a 1/4 stick by lore not a crappy little m80 No, it's the M80 that was always called a 1/4 stick. A quick google will confirm that myth. It's not a "myth", it's just slang M-80s are M-80s and IIRC, it's supposed to be 3.5 grams of flash; based on the old military detonation simulator. 1/4 sticks, Block-Busters, Cop-callers, etc...have always been something around 3/4 ID tubes, 3" (or longer) in length, and containing 10+ grams of flash. The fact that you even googled that leads me to wonder what sort of sad, explosive free childhood you had Speed No, it's a myth, not a slang. I've had my fair share of lighting off M-80s and fireworks throughout my life. People only call them 1/4 sticks, as they thought that's what they were. They wouldn't be called 1/4 sticks if those rumors were not spread. Anyone over the age of 16 who possess a full set of teeth realizes that "1/4 sticks" aren't really equivalent to dynamite That's just a silly marketing line for big firecrackers (not M-80s). You have to understand that almost all of the oversized firecrackers sold are made by individuals; not in a factory somewhere. Names like Quarter stick, Half Stick, M-2000, M-5000, etc... are street names for different people's product; much like drugs. I have never heard anyone refer to the little M-80 size firecracker as a "quarter stick" growing up; generally that moniker was reserved for the larger varieties, but maybe somebody just hyped up some M-80s to you and your buddies. Speed |
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Those aren't firecrackers. "Now these are firecrackers!!" (Thanks Crocodile Dundee) <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/18_Zulu/Firecracker.jpg</a> I was helping the local fish and game guys with deer depredation problems and they gave me several boxes of these as a way of saying thanks. Dude. Where can I get a box of those. they give em to a lot of boats too seal bangers |
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Wait for a federal firecracker ban. They may gain value then Not gonna happen. Some states are actually loosening their laws. Quoted:
Those aren't firecrackers. "Now these are firecrackers!!" (Thanks Crocodile Dundee) <a href="http://" target="_blank">http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/18_Zulu/Firecracker.jpg</a> I was helping the local fish and game guys with deer depredation problems and they gave me several boxes of these as a way of saying thanks. Nice! How loud are they? |
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Yeah, I would say they aren't worth anything. I can buy these new right now: http://www.rizerfireworks.com/images/thunderbomb_80_packs_of_16_firecrackers.jpg http://www.fireworksbydonnora.com/sites/fireworksbydonnora.com/files/imagecache/product_full/bc%20firecrackers%2012-80-16.jpg That's weird.. I asked about Black Cat brand last NYE and teh fireworks guy said the factory burned down and they don't make them any more... |
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I have never heard anyone refer to the little M-80 size firecracker as a "quarter stick" growing up; generally that moniker was reserved for the larger varieties, but maybe somebody just hyped up some M-80s to you and your buddies.
Speed Uh no. So I guess those same people hyped up everyone else as well. Link "(Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite." Link I also read or hear about statements comparing an M-80 to a "quarter stick of dynamite" or similar exaggerations. Wrong. To begin with, a "quarter stick" of dynamite has 35 grams of pyrotechnic content, while a true M-80 has just under 3 grams. So even if they had a same chemical composition, an M-80 would have less than 10% of the power of a quarter stick of dynamite. But the composition in dynamite (which varies widely) is a high explosive, while the chemical composition in an M-80 (so-called "flash powder") is a low explosive, at least from a scientific standpoint. So really there is no legitimate way to compare an M-80 with a quarter stick of dynamite. |
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Yeah, I would say they aren't worth anything. I can buy these new right now: http://www.rizerfireworks.com/images/thunderbomb_80_packs_of_16_firecrackers.jpg http://www.fireworksbydonnora.com/sites/fireworksbydonnora.com/files/imagecache/product_full/bc%20firecrackers%2012-80-16.jpg That's weird.. I asked about Black Cat brand last NYE and teh fireworks guy said the factory burned down and they don't make them any more... New for 2012 New for 2013 I think you were lied to. Nothing comes up from an internet search. That or they rebuilt it already and still making more. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have never heard anyone refer to the little M-80 size firecracker as a "quarter stick" growing up; generally that moniker was reserved for the larger varieties, but maybe somebody just hyped up some M-80s to you and your buddies. Speed Uh no. So I guess those same people hyped up everyone else as well. Link "(Contrary to urban legend, an M-80 that contains 3,000 mg of powder is not equivalent to a quarter-stick of dynamite." Link I also read or hear about statements comparing an M-80 to a "quarter stick of dynamite" or similar exaggerations. Wrong. To begin with, a "quarter stick" of dynamite has 35 grams of pyrotechnic content, while a true M-80 has just under 3 grams. So even if they had a same chemical composition, an M-80 would have less than 10% of the power of a quarter stick of dynamite. But the composition in dynamite (which varies widely) is a high explosive, while the chemical composition in an M-80 (so-called "flash powder") is a low explosive, at least from a scientific standpoint. So really there is no legitimate way to compare an M-80 with a quarter stick of dynamite.  ...do you want me to edit that wikipedia article for you so there is no more confusion?Maybe somewhere, people called M-80 sized firecrackers "quarter sticks", but that's the norm. Why don't you start another thread with a poll. Something like this: Which of these firecrackers more closely resembles what was sold as a "quarter stick" where you live: #1  #2  Speed |