[ARCHIVED THREAD] - General Pool Handguns (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 6/29/2013 5:49:43 AM EDT
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That is, nothing particular special, not your fav, but guns you have in inventory, that you put in ready lockers, as truck guns, maybe give to someone for their defense, and the like.
Meant to stay there forever unless they are pulled for cleaning or actual use. They should work, be relatively inexpensive. So what brands? I saw a Llama single stack 9mm yesterday and it's nice to know that there is still consistency in the universe in that the Net opinions I've seen so far seem to support the Lemon statement I heard from the gun store at the start of the century. Ie, some do, some don't, and apparent the one I was firing at the time did shoot more often than not..................but wasn't that special. So what brands? Remember, relatively inexpensive because among other things, one doesn't want to really cry about the gun that was stolen with the truck. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ("Consistency in the universe is so important, Herb; thank you for always being a JERK!"--Bailey, (w,stte), "WKRP") |
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We used to get batches of Ruger Mini-14 GB's in the pawn shops around here. They came from the OK Department of Corrections and had spray-painted inventory numbers on the stocks and were all scratched, gouged and beat up to hell. They were allegedly all stuffed muzzle-down and banging around against each other in 55-gallon barrels at the prison in Hominy (and other penitentiaries)
When a guard needed a weapon, they went and grabbed one of 10 or 20 that were thrown into the 55-gallon barrels, already loaded. They usually sold for a couple hundred dollars apiece when the prisons would have to trade them in on new weapons every couple of years or so... They made good truck and pasture guns, something you'd just throw behind the seat of your pickup with no case to protect it. |
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Okay, let's see if we can provide some pictures here for our studio audience at home.
About the Glock's....those run around $500ish bucks from what I can see. Is $500 an acceptable price for a gun that one wants to buy 2-8 copies of (ie, put in the truck, put in the ready lockers around the house, and such). Didn't comment on the Ruger....because not being familiar with it, I'm not quite sure what one is talking about. About a house's ready lockers, gun wise, I'm picturing one pistol, one rifle (just for information at this point). EDIT: Okay, time to feed the pets then I have to get ready to meet a gf, so I am out of here for a while. ______________________________________________________________________ ("For the benefit of our studio audience at home...the password is....", voiceover, (w,stte), "Password") |
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That is, nothing particular special, not your fav, but guns you have in inventory, that you put in ready lockers, as truck guns, maybe give to someone for their defense, and the like. Meant to stay there forever unless they are pulled for cleaning or actual use. They should work, be relatively inexpensive. So what brands? I saw a Llama single stack 9mm yesterday and it's nice to know that there is still consistency in the universe in that the Net opinions I've seen so far seem to support the Lemon statement I heard from the gun store at the start of the century. Ie, some do, some don't, and apparent the one I was firing at the time did shoot more often than not..................but wasn't that special. So what brands? Remember, relatively inexpensive because among other things, one doesn't want to really cry about the gun that was stolen with the truck. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ("Consistency in the universe is so important, Herb; thank you for always being a JERK!"--Bailey, (w,stte), "WKRP") Glock is the ideal truck gun. Ideal confiscated after CCW shooting gun. I would cry if my Colts were taken away. My Glocks, meh |
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Okay, let's see if we can provide some pictures here for our studio audience at home. About the Glock's....those run around $500ish bucks from what I can see. Is $500 an acceptable price for a gun that one wants to buy 2-8 copies of (ie, put in the truck, put in the ready lockers around the house, and such). Didn't comment on the Ruger....because not being familiar with it, I'm not quite sure what one is talking about. About a house's ready lockers, gun wise, I'm picturing one pistol, one rifle (just for information at this point). EDIT: Okay, time to feed the pets then I have to get ready to meet a gf, so I am out of here for a while. ______________________________________________________________________ ("For the benefit of our studio audience at home...the password is....", voiceover, (w,stte), "Password") How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. |
you want to put 8 loaded handguns around the house?
why don't you just carry one of them? I have 4 ready lockers All of them are stuffed to the gills with beef jerkey, duct tape, astronaut ice cream, and a ball gag. Which item should I take out in order to make room for a General Pool Handgun? |
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you want to put 8 loaded handguns around the house?
why don't you just carry one of them? I have 4 ready lockers All of them are stuffed to the gills with beef jerkey, duct tape, astronaut ice cream, and a ball gag. Which item should I take out in order to make room for a General Pool Handgun? I was thinking the same thing. But, instead of leaving 4 ball gags around the house, I just wear one... |
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I guess I understand most of that except do regular people have "ready lockers"? Do we not have those frequent topics of "someone busts into your house; where's your nearest gun?" If in anything else, someone busts into my house, I want to a gun near that I can get my hands on.......and they can't. Quoted:
you want to put 8 loaded handguns around the house?
why don't you just carry one of them? ..... Two reasons at least. First of all Quoted:
Glock is the ideal truck gun. Ideal confiscated after CCW shooting gun. I would cry if my Colts were taken away. My Glocks, meh is an excellent line of thought to keep in mind. Secondly, I have lived my life by having guns in places, such as kept at my mother's house, that I could get my hands on if I needed to. This is just a continuation of that. _____________________________________________________________________ ("Do you have a gun?"--20th century LA cop in the 19th century Egyptian Tomb "Yes-s, on the other side of the grave!"--Professor about to get very personal with the Mummy, (w,stte), "Waxworks") |
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I guess I understand most of that except do regular people have "ready lockers"? Do we not have those frequent topics of "someone busts into your house; where's your nearest gun?" If in anything else, someone busts into my house, I want to a gun near that I can get my hands on.......and they can't. _____________________________________________________________________ ("Do you have a gun?"--20th century LA cop in the 19th century Egyptian Tomb "Yes-s, on the other side of the grave!"--Professor about to get very personal with the Mummy, (w,stte), "Waxworks") My guns are concealed throughout the house. |
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you want to put 8 loaded handguns around the house?
why don't you just carry one of them? I have 4 ready lockers All of them are stuffed to the gills with beef jerkey, duct tape, astronaut ice cream, and a ball gag. Which item should I take out in order to make room for a General Pool Handgun? I was thinking the same thing. But, instead of leaving 4 ball gags around the house, I just wear one... 
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I went 1911s and AR15s for the whole family. I stock pile lots of magazines for both. We all shoot the 1911 well, and 22 conversions were pretty cheap for range time.
I would tell someone new the firearm world to buy Glocks and ARs. The only problem I have with the Glock for this is the 22 conversions are kind of pricy. |
Ruger P95
Smith and Wesson SW9VE 
Either can be had for under 300 new, is going to go bang everytime you pull the shitty trigger, and is universally hated by GD. I grew up shooting P-Series' and have never seen one jam on any type of amunition, and everyone I know with Sigmas have had good luck with them. 
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How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. Well that does bring up another point in this mode of shopping. That is, one gets to see the gun, but one doesn't get to shoot the gun before they buy it and odds are.......there are no returns. Is Glock of quality so one is generally in a good ball park when they are buying guns this way? Also, what should one look for when buying guns this way? The Llama I was looking at yesterday was clean on the inside, the barrel groves were visible, but there was light rust on the right side chines or ridges aft of the ejection port. I didn't buy yesterday as previously said. _____________________________________________________________________________________ ("We need more of these."--insurgent about the rifles "Talk to your broker....or your priest. I just deliver."--Solo, (w,stte), Book: Han Solo at Star's End) |
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That is, nothing particular special, not your fav, but guns you have in inventory, that you put in ready lockers, as truck guns, maybe give to someone for their defense, and the like. Meant to stay there forever unless they are pulled for cleaning or actual use. They should work, be relatively inexpensive. So what brands? I saw a Llama single stack 9mm yesterday and it's nice to know that there is still consistency in the universe in that the Net opinions I've seen so far seem to support the Lemon statement I heard from the gun store at the start of the century. Ie, some do, some don't, and apparent the one I was firing at the time did shoot more often than not..................but wasn't that special. So what brands? Remember, relatively inexpensive because among other things, one doesn't want to really cry about the gun that was stolen with the truck. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ("Consistency in the universe is so important, Herb; thank you for always being a JERK!"--Bailey, (w,stte), "WKRP") i guess im just expensive these days. id buy a glock for a bob, or trunk gun. back when i was poor, and young, id have probably grabbed up some $150.00 makarovs, as i loved them. however, they are so close to a glock price now, glock is the better deal. that said, im not stupid either. i carry my ccw, when i need a ready gun, and i have a jobbox bolted in the back of my suburban, that makes a very secure container for hauling guns full time. |
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How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. Well that does bring up another point in this mode of shopping. That is, one gets to see the gun, but one doesn't get to shoot the gun before they buy it and odds are.......there are no returns. Is Glock of quality so one is generally in a good ball park when they are buying guns this way? Also, what should one look for when buying guns this way? The Llama I was looking at yesterday was clean on the inside, the barrel groves were visible, but there was light rust on the right side chines or ridges aft of the ejection port. I didn't buy yesterday as previously said. _____________________________________________________________________________________ ("We need more of these."--insurgent about the rifles "Talk to your broker....or your priest. I just deliver."--Solo, (w,stte), Book: Han Solo at Star's End) Glock is of best quality You could keep one in the water tank above your commode, and it would work SL do you refer to your bathroom as the head? I thought it would be appropriate since it is not only naval tradition, but used on Star Trek. |
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I'm sure you have me on ignore, but because this is a post that makes sense, here goes.
I have 4 emergency gun kits. each has a Hi-Point C9, a small bottle of CLP, 3 mags (unloaded) and 50 rounds of ammo in a vacuum sealed bag. I have 3 .50 cal ammo can emergency kits each has a C9 bag in it. One in the tuck, one in the boat, one in the second truck and the 4th kit is in my safe waiting to be use somewhere. |
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Glock 17 - best beat around gun I've ever had. I forget where I put it for days at a time then find it in a kayak or the tractor. I found mine in the hand of a dead gangbanger Well, it's mine now I mean. After I shook the maggots off of it. Poor guy looked like he been there a few days Oh well. Free gun! |
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How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. Well that does bring up another point in this mode of shopping. That is, one gets to see the gun, but one doesn't get to shoot the gun before they buy it and odds are.......there are no returns. Is Glock of quality so one is generally in a good ball park when they are buying guns this way? Also, what should one look for when buying guns this way? The Llama I was looking at yesterday was clean on the inside, the barrel groves were visible, but there was light rust on the right side chines or ridges aft of the ejection port. I didn't buy yesterday as previously said. _____________________________________________________________________________________ ("We need more of these."--insurgent about the rifles "Talk to your broker....or your priest. I just deliver."--Solo, (w,stte), Book: Han Solo at Star's End) You can't beat Glock for the money. No way. 1. Decide on caliber. I made the mistake of having multiple calibers. Had I been smarter or had ARF back then, I would have all 45acp or all 9mm or all 40. 2. Decide on a size. If you aren't going to CCW them, get a middling to full size depending on your hand size. 3. Glocks are fool proof. Pull trigger---Bang. No second strike capability if that matters to you. 4. You would be better off with one Glock than 3 POS guns. |
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How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. Well that does bring up another point in this mode of shopping. That is, one gets to see the gun, but one doesn't get to shoot the gun before they buy it and odds are.......there are no returns. Is Glock of quality so one is generally in a good ball park when they are buying guns this way? Also, what should one look for when buying guns this way? The Llama I was looking at yesterday was clean on the inside, the barrel groves were visible, but there was light rust on the right side chines or ridges aft of the ejection port. I didn't buy yesterday as previously said. _____________________________________________________________________________________ ("We need more of these."--insurgent about the rifles "Talk to your broker....or your priest. I just deliver."--Solo, (w,stte), Book: Han Solo at Star's End) You can't beat Glock for the money. No way. 1. Decide on caliber. I made the mistake of having multiple calibers. Had I been smarter or had ARF back then, I would have all 45acp or all 9mm or all 40. 2. Decide on a size. If you aren't going to CCW them, get a middling to full size depending on your hand size. 3. Glocks are fool proof. Pull trigger---Bang. No second strike capability if that matters to you. 4. You would be better off with one Glock than 3 POS guns. Not sure if serious. |
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How cheap do you want to go? Below 500 you are getting into POS territory. May go bang, may not. You could go revolver and get under 500. Check CDNN. But, frankly go Glock Don't buy them all at once. Well that does bring up another point in this mode of shopping. That is, one gets to see the gun, but one doesn't get to shoot the gun before they buy it and odds are.......there are no returns. Is Glock of quality so one is generally in a good ball park when they are buying guns this way? Also, what should one look for when buying guns this way? The Llama I was looking at yesterday was clean on the inside, the barrel groves were visible, but there was light rust on the right side chines or ridges aft of the ejection port. I didn't buy yesterday as previously said. _____________________________________________________________________________________ ("We need more of these."--insurgent about the rifles "Talk to your broker....or your priest. I just deliver."--Solo, (w,stte), Book: Han Solo at Star's End) You can't beat Glock for the money. No way. 1. Decide on caliber. I made the mistake of having multiple calibers. Had I been smarter or had ARF back then, I would have all 45acp or all 9mm or all 40. 2. Decide on a size. If you aren't going to CCW them, get a middling to full size depending on your hand size. 3. Glocks are fool proof. Pull trigger---Bang. No second strike capability if that matters to you. 4. You would be better off with one Glock than 3 POS guns. Not sure if serious. Very serious. If my SIG P239 doesn't go bang, I pull the trigger again. On a Glock you have to get the slide back. |
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You can't beat Glock for the money. No way. 1. Decide on caliber. I made the mistake of having multiple calibers. Had I been smarter or had ARF back then, I would have all 45acp or all 9mm or all 40. 2. Decide on a size. If you aren't going to CCW them, get a middling to full size depending on your hand size. 3. Glocks are fool proof. Pull trigger---Bang. No second strike capability if that matters to you. 4. You would be better off with one Glock than 3 POS guns. Well, one caliber was the plan way back in the early days. But one rifle caliber came two, then three, and one pistol desired already started off at 3 and then became 4. But funny you should mention caliber, never the less. I walked into one place, all they had were pistols in .40.....and that was enough for me. .40 is one thing I don't shoot and I don't intend to add that foraging complexity now. I evaluated two Glocks; they are generally okay for me (may need some fine tuning on one). As alluded to before, this is not real the CCW gun; I use .45's for that.....though the thought of, if it came to that, handing over the Glock as oppose to my .45's is an interesting...and perplexing equation. Finally, while all the reasons above are good, at this point, it is still a foraging type of gun. That is, if they have a Glock in the display case at a cheap price, I may pick it up for the general gun pool......but it may not be in the dedicated gun search.....maybe. The availability of having money to do buying like this is a new thing to me. Quoted:
Very serious. If my SIG P239 doesn't go bang, I pull the trigger again. On a Glock you have to get the slide back. I have a Sig P239.....it was a product of one of those dedicated gun searches. Quoted:
I'm sure you have me on ignore, but because this is a post that makes sense, here goes. I have 4 emergency gun kits. each has a Hi-Point C9, a small bottle of CLP, 3 mags (unloaded) and 50 rounds of ammo in a vacuum sealed bag. I have 3 .50 cal ammo can emergency kits each has a C9 bag in it. One in the tuck, one in the boat, one in the second truck and the 4th kit is in my safe waiting to be use somewhere. So how does the Hi point go over? I saw a Haskell in .45 today for just under $200; having never heard of them, I looked them up when I got home, hence the hi point. And no, you are not ignored. You haven't crossed that line. _______________________________________________________________________ ("To have me and Croft in the same room invites trouble."--Leda and when Starbuck observes that she doesn't like him, "I'm married to him.....and no, I do not like him.", (w,stte), BSG (classic), "The Gun on Ice Planet Zero") |