[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BUD/S training (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 5/15/2013 2:22:30 PM EDT
| Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Why does your wife want you out of the house for 9 weeks? |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Why does your wife want you out of the house for 9 weeks? 
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The only advice Id give you is be able to do the BUD/S warning orders PT test without sweating. Otherwise you go into it and your already at a disadvantage. Thanks. When he was in indoc he taught me the combat side stroke. I have swam a 9:20 (500) but was pretty spent after that. Running and Pullups is what I need to work on. For what it's worth, he told me that PREP gets you in to pretty good shape, so not to worry about being an world class triathlete upon the time I get to RTC. Im thinking if I get into shape NOW, I can start PST'ing in the next 3 months. Get my contract this winter (before my bday in January) and ship out about ths time next year to RTC, then PREP and then come back out here to San Diego. You can tell Ive already started planning this lol |
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If you are serious talk to a SEAL motivator now! You have a relative who is in BUD/S so you have the inside scoop. Pick his brain for info that he can tell, but remember you will determine if you pass.
Follow the advice in the warning order on PT. Its a mental and physical challenge but remember the human body is capable of alot. |
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Congrats! That is really cool, and I wish you the best. Reality check, though, the military and can be a huge strain on a family (especially the spouse and children), especially units with a high OPTEMPO like a Special Operations unit. This^^^ because she has to be as motivated/dedicated as you. Good Luck! |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Why does your wife want you out of the house for 9 weeks? I didn't get that from his post. What are you implying? |
| So if I understand this, SEAL training is now something you're guaranteed to go into out of Basic Training.. just the same as say aircraft mechanic, cook, nuke tech, etc...? If you wash out do they hand you a paint scraper, point you to an aircraft carrier, and tell you to enjoy the remainder of your enlistment? |
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Head to this forum here.
Current shippers post their PST scores and ship dates. Invaluable info to have before you sign the SO contract and start burning through your PST attempts. |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Think about this part. You will not be coming home at night. Or on weekends. Or on birthdays. Etc. |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Why does your wife want you out of the house for 9 weeks? I didn't get that from his post. What are you implying? I believe he was just trying to be funny. OP, if you really want it, go for it. The biggest regrets are not our failures to achieve, but our failures to attempt. |
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So if I understand this, SEAL training is now something you're guaranteed to go into out of Basic Training.. just the same as say aircraft mechanic, cook, nuke tech, etc...? If you wash out do they hand you a paint scraper, point you to an aircraft carrier, and tell you to enjoy the remainder of your enlistment? Most choose a rate and go to "A" school. They generally don't fuck those guys over when they leave unless they're turds. |
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Have a close family member that is at a certain point in the pipeline. Im 28, but he's got me super motivated. Looks like I just have to have an SO contract before my 29th birthday (which isn't until next year). I can actually show up to boot camp being 29 without a waiver. My other brother is in MARSOC, both younger. I have a wife and 6 week old son but damn my wife gave me the green light a few nights back. Sh!t Id rather try and fail and be stuck in the Navy for 6 years than not try at all. Probably shouldn't post this but damn I got the bug right now Why does your wife want you out of the house for 9 weeks? 9 weeks? LOL! I'm not sure about SEALs but for AF Pararescue and Combat Control, there's the PAST Test. Whatever the equivalent is for the SEAL pipeline, you should be able to get 100% on it before you even leave for basic. PT in basic should be nothing more than a maintenance workout and you should finish daily PT craving more. At the end of the day......it's 50% physical and 50% mental. The biggest PT stud who doesn't have a strong will, will not make it. Most importantly......find humor in everything. If you can't laugh about being smoked, you will stress yourself into quitting. It's a LONG pipeline to lose focus. |
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Good luck OP, it's a long road ahead of you. May I offer this to you; if you join the Marines as an 03xx contract you could very well try out for Recon and MARSOC and if for some reason those two don't work out you could always be an 0311 rifleman in an infantry battalion still doing some cool things. If you don't make it through BUD/S, and there is no shame, you will be doing something in the Navy that is probably not cool like painting ships, manning a console, etc. |
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Best of luck to you man I hope you kickass. I'm kind of curious, does your wife understand how much shes going to see you during BUDS and if you make it through everything and into a team? I recall hearing that divorce rates in the teams is a little high. A little? |
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Best of luck to you man I hope you kickass. I'm kind of curious, does your wife understand how much shes going to see you during BUDS and if you make it through everything and into a team? I recall hearing that divorce rates in the teams is a little high. A little? OP, this will most likely become a reality for you even if you did make it: 6 month deployment to A-stan, return home for 2 weeks, leave for 6 weeks for training, return for 1 month, leave again for 2 month TDY, return for 5 weeks, TEAM deploys again for 4 months, return home, etc. Spend more time away than home, and home isn't even really home. Many single guys can't even deal with the lifestyle past a single enlistment. |
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If you are in a position to do it, and you have the desire...JUST DO IT!
Worst case, 6 years goes by in a hurry, and you still get an awesome tank icon below your name. 
I have some Navy buddies that had some pretty mundane jobs, and after they get done bitching, you can't get them off their stories. |
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Yes, it is true you only live once, but at 28 with a wife and kid your life is no longer your own. Sorry but I think it is to late to pursue your own "personal" dream. No it's not. Just realize what family time you have known will not be afterward. If it's good with your family and yourself, then go for it, if you have any doubts, then sit down and talk it over with the family once more. |
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Having been in your shoes, and having done that, my following is the best advice you'll probably get (outside of BillyDoubleU or whatever it is  as well).Since you're at less than a year to ship date, you need to PT, and you need to have started YESTERDAY. As others said, you need to ace the PST. Not just make it, not just be able to do it, but blow it out of the water. Do the PST now, record the results, and record them every 2 weeks. You should see an improvement over time. The PST Calc on the SEAL/SWCC website will be your friend to give you an idea of where you're at - http://www.sealswcc.com/pst/seal-calc/navy-seal-pst-calculator.aspx#.UZQaaspihmw My personal physical tips: 1. Start eating right if you're not. Eat clean and put all shit food aside. No bullshit cheating. Your goal is to get as lean as possible yet still gain / retain muscle. Any extra weight is a burden. 2. Don't even touch supplements. That means no protein powder, enhancers, etc. Do it natural. 3. Get your upper body retardedly strong / flexible. I'm talking monkey / ape strong. Core up to neck. Most of what you do (outside of running) will require ridiculous upper body strength. 4. Run. Run. Run. Get used to running. Get used to running on sand if you can. 5. Make the above your lifestyle all day, every day. If you want to do this then the life you knew is over - here on out you need to be completely health conscious and focused. My personal mental tips (the most important): 1. (Most important to me) Find your inner peace. Sounds stupid I know, but find the place that makes you at peace with everything. Meditate, whatever, just find it. You will be able to channel that when you need it and this will make more sense then. 2. Realize your family will take back burner... to EVERYTHING. Your ass belongs to the Navy, accept it now. 3. If it starts to suck (while you're training for this) don't focus on the now or what you're doing right now. Focus on tomorrow, focus on the next hour if you can't do that. Just keep thinking ahead and moving. 4. Get failure out of your mind. It's not even an option. The only failure you get to have is failure beyond your control - your body breaks, you die, the world ends etc. Failure is not an option isn't just a saying - it means that you don't even have that option available to you. You have the benefit of being able to use the internet to glean more information than many before you have. Use it. In addition to that if you do ship out, make sure you go to the dive motivator every, single, fucking, day when in basic. Take advantage of everything offered to you. All this and you haven't even started yet... Go luck, and if you want it throw your past life behind you. |
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I spent 30+ years in Special Forces and while the deployments, the "can't talk about" stuff, and other stuff that comes with being a part of the Spec Ops community, is a pain and a challenge to both the individual and the family, you can't place a price on an experience like that. One of the things I remember most is the number of individuals over the years that said "I wish I had done something like that". It is tough, but it is better than living a "would of", "could of", "should of" a life. Even if you go and fail at least you tried and you never have to wonder "What if".
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At 28 years old, +6 years is a huge proportion of your best earning years. I would never counsel you to risk those with an attitude that you could be just another basic squid if you fail at BUD/S. If you go in with "failure is not an option," maybe. Maybe. I am very glad I joined when I was 18, rather than 28. It really is a young man's game, and to join a decade older than kids who will outrank you once you make it passed basic, was a real tough pill for a lot of older guys to swallow. Had a few in basic who felt superior because of their age, but their minority status did not help things for them and only built animosity with the younger guys who had numbers. It's not fun to be 28 and bossed around by a 20-22 year old. |
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For what it's worth, we already live in San Diego, about 40 min. north of Coronado. I'd be gone for RTC, Prep (~4 months), but would be back home for BUD/S. I understand the first month of 1st phase is base lockdown (no going home), but after hell week I should be able to go home on weekends. I think as SQT starts and the tempo starts picking up, time at home will dwindle to nothing. I am going to move forward with this, and I am not going to show up to the party to fail. 15 years of wrestling in my background, and then going to a desk job, I've been craving getting back into it physically. I do realize that BUD/S is on a whole 'nother level.
There is a 'boat crew' workout downtown during the week. I need to get to that everyday, but also need to work full time to support family. If I can't make it work, I may PT from 0400-0800, go to work, and PT from 1800-2200. Right now focus is going to be running, swimming, push, pull, situps. Right now, Im not even looking at BUD/S, or even boot camp. Im looking at getting a SO contract. One caveat is I can burn vacation time to PST on Mondays in Coronado. My boss would be pretty flexible with this if I talked to him about it. EDIT: Im a new member here but this will end up being a throwaway account lol |