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5/2/2013 10:23:52 PM EDT
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NEW DELHI (AP) — The platoon of Chinese soldiers slipped across the boundary into India in the middle of the night, according toIndian officials. They were ferried across the bitterly cold moonscape in Chinese army vehicles, then got out to traverse a dry creek bed with a helicopter hovering overhead for protection.





They finally reached their destination and pitched a tent in the barren Depsang Valley in the Ladakh region, a symbolic claim of sovereignty deep inside Indian-held territory. So stealthy was the operation that India did not discover the incursion until a day later, Indian officials said.





China denies any incursion, but Indian officials say that for two weeks, the soldiers have refused to move back over the so-called Line of Actual Control that divides Indian-ruled territory from Chinese-run land, leaving the government on the verge of a crisis with its powerful northeastern neighbor.





Indian officials fear that if they react with force, the face-off could escalate into a battle with the powerful People's Liberation Army. But doing nothing would leave a Chinese outpost deep in territory India has ruled since independence.





"If they have come 19 kilometers into India, it is not a minor LAC violation. It is a deliberate military operation. And even as India protests, more tents have come up," said Sujit Dutta, a China specialist at the Jamia Milia Islamia university in New Delhi.





"Clearly, the Chinese are testing India to see how far they can go," he said.





That is not China's stated view.






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http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-incursion-leaves-india-verge-crisis-044158564.html



 
5/2/2013 10:25:52 PM EDT
[#1]
And here I though everything was getting boring...
5/2/2013 10:27:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Hopefully things will get interdasting for once...
5/2/2013 10:29:49 PM EDT
[#3]
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.
5/2/2013 10:36:06 PM EDT
[#4]
It would be unfortunate if they happened to be camping on India's newest indirect fire range.
5/2/2013 10:38:37 PM EDT
[#5]
And what is the US going to say about it? I will talk to my Sikh friend tomorrow.
5/2/2013 10:40:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.



India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

5/2/2013 10:40:50 PM EDT
[#7]
artillery whats so hard about lobbing a shell?
5/2/2013 10:43:56 PM EDT
[#8]
"They finally reached their destination and pitched a tent in the barren Depsang Valley..."

What was this, a circle jerk commando raid?
5/2/2013 10:44:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Both are over populated and we could benefit by selling weapons and supplies. Someone should just privately kill these Chinese soldiers and kick off Asian war.
5/2/2013 10:44:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Would be interesting to see those forces clash, and a nice change of pace to see a war that doesn't have anything to do with the U.S.  It's not a bad thing for liberals to be forced into being aware that imperialism lives on and it ain't us, the world is not some hippy convent, there are nations and leaders who want to crush others and consolidate power and have no interest in getting along.
5/2/2013 10:44:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.



India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.



India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.
5/2/2013 10:44:50 PM EDT
[#12]
I hope it goes ballistic.
5/2/2013 10:48:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I hope it goes ballistic.


Why ?
5/2/2013 10:49:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.

India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.

No, India is an ally, and a good one at that, one we have a strong national interest in.

If we ignore their industrial progress for a second, being friends with the country that has a billion people is also a pretty good strategic move.
5/2/2013 10:52:20 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


Both are over populated and we could benefit by selling weapons and supplies. Someone should just privately kill these Chinese soldiers and kick off Asian war.


Define 'overpopulated'.

 
5/2/2013 10:54:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Not anything that new or to get worried about. China has border disputes with a couple of their neighbors.  The chances of this going hot are non-existent.
5/2/2013 10:54:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
artillery whats so hard about lobbing a shell?


Have you seen Indian artillery?

5/2/2013 10:55:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
artillery whats so hard about lobbing a shell?


Have you seen Indian artillery?



yes


Watch them hop around the poor buggers

5/2/2013 10:57:09 PM EDT
[#19]
I see we're on the same page. I gotta admit that a bit of that would have made Sill a lot more entertaining.
5/2/2013 10:59:43 PM EDT
[#20]





nope
5/2/2013 11:05:01 PM EDT
[#21]
I was watching an episode of VICE a couple of weeks ago where the guys traveled to both Pakistan and India to investigate how all the animosity between the two states started.  During the interview, there was made mention of a fact, if it's true, that I'd never heard. Apparently, if more than a hundred nukes goes off anywhere on Earth, the entire planet is in fact, fucked.  Needless to say, I'm significantly less flippant about letting those two countries  kill themselves in a nuclear free for all.
5/2/2013 11:06:56 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.

India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.

No, India is an ally, and a good one at that, one we have a strong national interest in.

If we ignore their industrial progress for a second, being friends with the country that has a billion people is also a pretty good strategic move.


I agree to disagree.
India's industrial progress is much the same as China's industrial progress.
Stolen from the west.

Both countries are giant overpopulated shitholes that have exploited their own resources and people to the point of seeking more real estate to expand and support a system that is designed for nothing but domination.

If either country had the ability to take over North America, the rest of the inhabitants left over from this continent would be nothing more than slaves to feed the masters.
The amount of poverty and skullduggery in both countries is best to be kept on the asian continent, and to be defended from coming to this one.
Let those bastard kill each other off in their own territory.

Fuck both of those backwards countries.
Filthy shitholes is what they are,and forever will be.

5/2/2013 11:09:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.

India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.

No, India is an ally, and a good one at that, one we have a strong national interest in.

If we ignore their industrial progress for a second, being friends with the country that has a billion people is also a pretty good strategic move.


I agree to disagree.
India's industrial progress is much the same as China's industrial progress.
Stolen from the west.

Both countries are giant overpopulated shitholes that have exploited their own resources and people to the point of seeking more real estate to expand and support a system that is designed for nothing but domination.

If either country had the ability to take over North America, the rest of the inhabitants left over from this continent would be nothing more than slaves to feed the masters.
The amount of poverty and skullduggery in both countries is best to be kept on the asian continent, and to be defended from coming to this one.
Let those bastard kill each other off in their own territory.

Fuck both of those backwards countries.
Filthy shitholes is what they are,and forever will be.



There's a lot of hate up there in America's hat
5/2/2013 11:14:02 PM EDT
[#24]
We're fucked if those two go at it. No more iWhatevers and the ones we do have, we won't be able to get tech support on the phone if they break.
5/2/2013 11:15:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.


You forgot:

"And get off my lawn!"
5/2/2013 11:22:53 PM EDT
[#26]
They have a history of little border spats that end with a little fighting that goes no where I imagine this will be more of the same at worst. Plus isn't India's carrier fully functional while china's is going on a pleasure cruise to make sure it doesn't spring a leak?
5/2/2013 11:26:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
We're fucked if those two go at it. No more iWhatevers and the ones we do have, we won't be able to get tech support on the phone if they break.


iDontGiveAShit
5/2/2013 11:26:38 PM EDT
[#28]
So China sent in a platoon? India should surround them with at least a company. Give them the opportunity to surrender and take their asses prisoner. If they resist, waste every last one of em. Either way, it will send China the message that this kind of shit won't be tolerated. If they do nothing, China will pounce on such perceived weakness. The next time they may move in a company. Then a battalion. Then a regiment. Then a division. Or maybe they'll just move in a whole damn army. And they may move even deeper into Indian territory with no plans on leaving. India better nip this shit in the bud right now.
5/2/2013 11:30:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
We're fucked if those two go at it. No more iWhatevers and the ones we do have, we won't be able to get tech support on the phone if they break.


iDontGiveAShit


Bless your heart.
5/2/2013 11:31:23 PM EDT
[#30]
With 1/3 of the worlds population between the 2 of them, this could be bad.

I wonder what contingency plans US companies relying on India for tech support have in place.
5/2/2013 11:46:02 PM EDT
[#31]
India and Pakistan lose troops to avalanches and stuff because they are arguing over a glacier. china is miscalculating if they think India won't go full retard
5/3/2013 12:07:27 AM EDT
[#32]
Do we have that mutual aggression act fucking thing with India? Or can we sit this out if they go full tard?
5/3/2013 12:08:28 AM EDT
[#33]
I know India has their own Gurkha units; send 'em in!
5/3/2013 12:19:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
So China sent in a platoon? India should surround them with at least a company. Give them the opportunity to surrender and take their asses prisoner. If they resist, waste every last one of em. Either way, it will send China the message that this kind of shit won't be tolerated. If they do nothing, China will pounce on such perceived weakness. The next time they may move in a company. Then a battalion. Then a regiment. Then a division. Or maybe they'll just move in a whole damn army. And they may move even deeper into Indian territory with no plans on leaving. India better nip this shit in the bud right now.


Hell will freeze over, pigs ( or sacred cows) will fly, etc etc before India does anything remotely resembling this. Their leadership is utterly corrupt and feckless, too busy enriching themselves and their cronies to do a damn thing. And China knows it.

5/3/2013 12:25:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.

India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.

No, India is an ally, and a good one at that, one we have a strong national interest in.

If we ignore their industrial progress for a second, being friends with the country that has a billion people is also a pretty good strategic move.


I agree to disagree.
India's industrial progress is much the same as China's industrial progress.
Stolen from the west.

Both countries are giant overpopulated shitholes that have exploited their own resources and people to the point of seeking more real estate to expand and support a system that is designed for nothing but domination.

If either country had the ability to take over North America, the rest of the inhabitants left over from this continent would be nothing more than slaves to feed the masters.
The amount of poverty and skullduggery in both countries is best to be kept on the asian continent, and to be defended from coming to this one.
Let those bastard kill each other off in their own territory.

Fuck both of those backwards countries.
Filthy shitholes is what they are,and forever will be.



There's a lot of hate up there in America's hat


Cut him some slack. Canada has been inundated with millions of economic migrants from China (including half of Hong Kong it seems) and the subcontinent. Many of these migrants display contempt for the country that opened its doors to them while scamming the system for all they can get and making no attempt to assimilate. (Sound familiar?)

5/3/2013 12:27:03 AM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:


Do we have that mutual aggression act fucking thing with India? Or can we sit this out if they go full tard?


There is no way we are siding with anyone in India v. China.

 
5/3/2013 12:36:06 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.



India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.



Say both India and China fired nukes and missed, and ended up melting pakistan instead. Would be such a shame.

5/3/2013 12:38:27 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Do we have that mutual aggression act fucking thing with India? Or can we sit this out if they go full tard?

There is no way we are siding with anyone in India v. China.  

That's a given.
Neither nation wants our help and we have no interests at stake. None.


China is going to get away with this land grab anyway.

1st: This isn't the first incursion, just the latest.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/chinese-incursion-on-indian-territory-enter-eastern-ladakh-356542

2nd:  India's government has made it clear that they are just going to send " sternly worded letters " and ask to talk it over.
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/5ZP8Di4zqFzwSq6EeXhdLI/India-sings-peace-to-an-occupier.html
5/3/2013 12:53:23 AM EDT
[#39]


Has Obama made his "red line" speech about the border yet?


5/3/2013 1:01:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Good.

I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.
Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.

Fuck 'em both.

India is an ally.    If it was Pakistan I could see.

India is an ally only on paper.
They only thing they care about the west is how much money they can suck out of us.

Fuck India.

No, India is an ally, and a good one at that, one we have a strong national interest in.

If we ignore their industrial progress for a second, being friends with the country that has a billion people is also a pretty good strategic move.


I don't see them as a good ally, but I see them as a potential one, if we can get them to abandon Russia as an ally.  I think it is very much in our interests to have India abandon Russia and become our ally in a broad sense in that region.  They could also serve as a proxy in dealing with the ChiComs in the future.
5/3/2013 1:06:37 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I was watching an episode of VICE a couple of weeks ago where the guys traveled to both Pakistan and India to investigate how all the animosity between the two states started.  During the interview, there was made mention of a fact, if it's true, that I'd never heard. Apparently, if more than a hundred nukes goes off anywhere on Earth, the entire planet is in fact, fucked.  Needless to say, I'm significantly less flippant about letting those two countries  kill themselves in a nuclear free for all.


facepalm, science fail
5/3/2013 1:52:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Wonder how long before Pakistan decides to jump in as well.  
5/3/2013 2:00:30 AM EDT
[#43]

I saw that a few days ago and was wondering when the lamestream media would pick up on it.
5/3/2013 2:13:46 AM EDT
[#44]
India>Pookeeestan.
5/3/2013 2:15:29 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
India>Pookeeestan.


That's like saying Syphilis > Herpes.


5/3/2013 2:28:49 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:


Has Obama made his "red line" speech about the border yet?




If China crosses this border, we'll take on a very stern appearance and send a strongly worded letter.
5/3/2013 2:30:51 AM EDT
[#47]
This is un-good.

Especially for those of us close to "disputed" territory.   The Scarborough Shoal, which the Chinese also claim, is about 140 miles from my house.
5/3/2013 2:32:51 AM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


Good.



I could care less if either country escalated this provocative action into a full blown war.

Let them use up their nukes on each other and I still wouldn't give a shit.



Fuck 'em both.


You say that now. But if you ever need some computer support in the future...



 
5/3/2013 2:35:54 AM EDT
[#49]
India should shake and bake that location with some 155 round and call it a day.
5/3/2013 2:36:15 AM EDT
[#50]
Sounds like  the barren Depsang Valley would make a good artillery range.
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