[ARCHIVED THREAD] - F U microsoft (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/6/2013 6:46:16 AM EDT
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seriously go fuck yourselves. windows 8 is the biggest fuckup of an OS I have ever seen. I just spent 28 minutes on the phone trying to get an end user on the internet without success. as soon as the poor bastard plugged in his ethernet cable it was over. the fucking system comes up with a sign in screen for a microsoft account and he can't get out of it!
fuck you all at Microsoft. I hope you all starve and die. I'm calling it right now. Worse than Vista. |
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Have one of those too, whatever floats your boat. =] |
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I know a lot of home users who love it.
I know a lot of business users and sysops that think it is the black death. I have a seat of it at home that I no longer use. I will do everything in my power to keep Windows 8 out of my office. It is a wonderful OS for the facebooky twitter generation but it is an absolute abortion for office use. |
And awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay we go!
ETA: On the subject of Win8 I will say only this. It's a fine operating system. HOWEVER, why Microsoft thought that the average userbase (and even many of the rest of us) would be receptive to the Metro interface I will never understand. Would it really have been so bad to throw in the option to easily disable it and revert it to the universally known Windows desktop configuration? If for no other reason that training and support hassles? I know that the reason they did it was that they understood that most people would flip that switch and Metro, for the most part, would never be seen again. Still..... People rarely embrace change. I don't think they ever intended for 8 to make it to the corporate desktop. They had to know what was coming. Or maybe not. Who knows. |
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that would be awesome...IF HE COULD GET TO THAT. I'm failing to see how a user mucking about in the system settings and forgetting their credentials is an OS issue. You would be in the same boat on a Win7 computer. you don't understand the problem. he signs in with his local account. and it takes him to the microsoft account setup screen. which he cannot get out of. there is no other screens between signing in with his local account and the MS account sign up screen. he's bringing it in i'll have it in 45 minutes. |
I can't imagine how annoying this kind of desktop support must be (it's been many many years....) but look at it this way: If you're an IT employee, it's just more illustration of how important your job is to the people that view you as a cost center and a rather unfortunate item on the balance sheet. If you're working privately, you can bill for this and I doubt you'll have much trouble fixing it.
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you don't understand the problem. he signs in with his local account. and it takes him to the microsoft account setup screen. which he cannot get out of. there is no other screens between signing in with his local account and the MS account sign up screen. he's bringing it in i'll have it in 45 minutes. |
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I must be one of the only ones that like Win8.. (I was even told this by a fellow tech...)
I have worked with Windows since it first came out on a (at that time) state of the art IBM PC with a Hercules Graphic Monochrome display adapter and a Amber Monitor without using a mouse and actually find Win8 to be intuitive... and personally great on the big screen TV it is attached to... now if there was an app to allow my WebCam to allow hand gestures to work on the 'Tiled" interface... Of course my definition of intuitive is built upon having to work with various customers and assist them in resolving their problems and issues that are hindering their productivity and my curiosity that allows me to explore (right click has it's benefits...) Ted... |
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Alt-F4 to close the MS account setup page? would have been great knowing that 20 minutes ago. ofcourse better yet....how about the thing just work like its supposed to? you know like the last 10 MS opperating systems. i've been through dos 6.2, win 3.1, win 95a, win 95b, win 95c, win 98, win 98 se, win me, w2k, nt4, xp home and pro, vista, win 7, server 2003 and 2008. plus 3 versions of OSX and a few linux distros and have never seen an OS as aggrivating to use as windows 8. |
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I played around with a touchscreen Windows 8 computer last night.
I like it, IF a touchscreen is involved. I use my Android phone a lot, and I often find myself at least thinking of touching my laptop screen to open a link or scroll, or do the pinch/zoom thing. I think that when paired with a touchscreen it would be a great productivity enhancer. |
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that would be awesome...IF HE COULD GET TO THAT. I'm failing to see how a user mucking about in the system settings and forgetting their credentials is an OS issue. You would be in the same boat on a Win7 computer. you don't understand the problem. he signs in with his local account. and it takes him to the microsoft account setup screen. which he cannot get out of. there is no other screens between signing in with his local account and the MS account sign up screen. he's bringing it in i'll have it in 45 minutes. Fair enough. I will defer on the incident details. Original point stands though. Principle of least privilege solves 90% of the issues. You'll also want to review this. |
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Alt-F4 to close the MS account setup page? would have been great knowing that 20 minutes ago. ofcourse better yet....how about the thing just work like its supposed to? you know like the last 10 MS opperating systems. i've been through dos 6.2, win 3.1, win 95a, win 95b, win 95c, win 98, win 98 se, win me, w2k, nt4, xp home and pro, vista, win 7, server 2003 and 2008. plus 3 versions of OSX and a few linux distros and have never seen an OS as aggrivating to use as windows 8. Just accept that MS went to something different this go around and you'll have to relearn how to do things. We'll see if this was a bad move on Microsoft's part but so far I like Win8. I find it funny when people complain about Windows 8 saying they used windows since whatever and then say, "I'm going to Mac". You're still going to have to learn how to use the Mac. Why not try learning Windows 8? |
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They should include something like this with every copy sold. It would probably prevent 90% of the initial claims that Windows 8 is impossible to use.
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We just put win 8 on the computer at the gun range I work at. What a fucking mistake. What a pile of shit. Needless to say I am not using the computer anymore and will just do everything on iphone.  So what's wrong? Watch this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8NpwiEuzc |
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We just put win 8 on the computer at the gun range I work at. What a fucking mistake. What a pile of shit. Needless to say I am not using the computer anymore and will just do everything on iphone. So what's wrong? Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8NpwiEuzcEXCELLENT |
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I've never used Windows 8, but I can tell one thing I don't like about it, just from screenshots and videos like the one above. I hate screen clutter. My desktop never has more than a few icons at any time. When I use my parents or a coworker's computer it drives me nuts seeing 38 program shortcuts, most of which haven't been used in 17 months. If there's a way to change the default in Win8 to a clean interface I'll revise my opinion. Call me OCD or whatever, but the default layout for Win8 drives me nuts. Oddly enough, this doesn't bother me as much on mobile devices, but even then I'll still use multiple "pages" rather than put every app on one page. |
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I've never used Windows 8, but I can tell one thing I don't like about it, just from screenshots and videos like the one above. I hate screen clutter. My desktop never has more than a few icons at any time. When I use my parents or a coworker's computer it drives me nuts seeing 38 program shortcuts, most of which haven't been used in 17 months. If there's a way to change the default in Win8 to a clean interface I'll revise my opinion. Call me OCD or whatever, but the default layout for Win8 drives me nuts. Oddly enough, this doesn't bother me as much on mobile devices, but even then I'll still use multiple "pages" rather than put every app on one page. 
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I know a lot of home users who love it. I know a lot of business users and sysops that think it is the black death. I have a seat of it at home that I no longer use. I will do everything in my power to keep Windows 8 out of my office. It is a wonderful OS for the facebooky twitter generation but it is an absolute abortion for office use. kinda like OSX and Linux then? |
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We just put win 8 on the computer at the gun range I work at. What a fucking mistake. What a pile of shit. Needless to say I am not using the computer anymore and will just do everything on iphone. So what's wrong? Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8NpwiEuzcwow. how unintutive and confusing. LOOK! i can do move shit about the screen! but to get this I have to go way over here click this and hit this key to do this its hidden off the screen. brilliant. hide shit. that will make it SO easy to use. my favorite is "in internet explorer i can close a tab by going up here right clicking and then click close tab" post 8700. well in win xp, vista , 7, OSX, and linux I just click the x in the tab and it goes away. |
I still run 3 machines with that
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We just put win 8 on the computer at the gun range I work at. What a fucking mistake. What a pile of shit. Needless to say I am not using the computer anymore and will just do everything on iphone. So what's wrong? Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8NpwiEuzcwow. how unintutive and confusing. LOOK! i can do move shit about the screen! but to get this I have to go way over here click this and hit this key to do this its hidden off the screen. brilliant. hide shit. that will make it SO easy to use. my favorite is "in internet explorer i can close a tab by going up here right clicking and then click close tab" post 8700. well in win xp, vista , 7, OSX, and linux I just click the x in the tab and it goes away. Well if that's too much for you, you can always just use CTRL-W to close the tabs and I have a little red x on my IE. 
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I know a lot of home users who love it. I know a lot of business users and sysops that think it is the black death. I have a seat of it at home that I no longer use. I will do everything in my power to keep Windows 8 out of my office. It is a wonderful OS for the facebooky twitter generation but it is an absolute abortion for office use. kinda like OSX and Linux then? If I could afford to transition my office to Mac Pros I would have done so years ago. Mostly because we are a graphics / creative business and nearly every client or contractor we work with is running Mac as are most of my staff at home. This will date us terribly but when we started this company our SGI workstations were running IRIX. As the programs we used transitioned to WinOS we dumped our uber expensive SGIs for the more affordable IBM PC market. In my opinion Win8 is "not ready for prime time" in a business environment. I want a stripped down, lean and mean OS and not some fluffy, touchscreeny live tile crap. I also really frown on the idea that I would need to hack the OS to get there. That does not appeal to me as a small business owner. So no sale for us, we will stick with Win7 until MS creates a real next gen business OS or we somehow miraculously make enough money in this shit economy to switch over to Mac. |
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And awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay we go!
ETA: On the subject of Win8 I will say only this. It's a fine operating system. HOWEVER, why Microsoft thought that the average userbase (and even many of the rest of us) would be receptive to the Metro interface I will never understand. Would it really have been so bad to throw in the option to easily disable it and revert it to the universally known Windows desktop configuration? If for no other reason that training and support hassles? I know that the reason they did it was that they understood that most people would flip that switch and Metro, for the most part, would never be seen again. Still..... People rarely embrace change. I don't think they ever intended for 8 to make it to the corporate desktop. They had to know what was coming. Or maybe not. Who knows. And what would they do with windows 9? The entire point of making 8 have the new start screen is that they want people to get used to it. If people could just revert to the old way, they would just do that and never bother learning the new way. Then come Windows 9 people would be used to the new start screen and there shouldn't be any problems. It's not like they are going to revert to the old ways with windows 9. People bitched about every interface change. Be it the Ribbon in office 2007 + or the interface changes in vista and 7. Microsoft's biggest mistake was abandoning the 3 year release cycle with XP, it made people complacent. |
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Bam! Where there's a will, there's a way.  That there appears to be a box that can't decide what it wants to be when it grows up.
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