Posted: 3/1/2013 7:48:58 PM EDT
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SHTF situation for extended period of time. US dollar means nothing. What are good items to have for bartering?
Items: booze (this is staying, because booze makes SHTF situations more bearable) seeds tools tobacco spices ammo Toilet Paper Q-Tips Socks Over the counter Medications Condoms Clean Water food soap feminine hygiene products shampoo, razers (the kind for hygiene) Oils (cooking oils, oils for personal hygiene) Common batteries, super glue Duct tape Medical training beyond that of a combat medic. IE, a dentist, Physician Assistant...ect.... Fuels Baby Wipes |
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Condoms http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/MACDD/foxhole-atheist-megan-hurwitt_zps1dde7ffb.jpg Does she have medical experience as well? |
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With the FSA mentality food and water would be a number one barter item. I beg to differ... Tussin..there aint nothin Tussin can't fix in the hood. 
But realistically, any toiletries like toothbrush, soap, shampoo, razers, feminine products,etc...will prolly land you better trades from respectable ,higher end types. ETA: Billy just below beat me to it while I was editing. 
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With the FSA mentality food and water would be a number one barter item. I beg to differ... Tussin..there aint nothin Tussin can't fix in the hood.
But realistically, any toiletries like toothbrush, soap, shampoo, razers, feminine products,etc...will prolly land you better trades from respectable ,higher end types. ETA: Billy just below beat me to it while I was editing. I had to google tussin. Your right> Lol 
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| Unless its rare or high end booze, I dont see the reason to stock pile it prior. Alcohol production will be one of the first things individuals begin again. The base will be whatever is available in large amounts, cider will be more common in NE and corn moonshine in the Midwest . Breweries and distilleries did not cease functioning after the fall of Rome, the supply chain will not be down long for booze. |
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www.shtfschool.com is one of the best online resources I have found, other than some of our Argentinian members. Guy was in the Balkans during the war back in 1992-1995. He listed a bunch of stuff that people above have mentioned. He also stated that coffee, alcohol and anything that people could be social over was highly valued. He said it was a big moral thing to be able to pour someone a cup of coffee like things were normal for a minute. Also, he said a couple people may not mention: -Reusable bags. No green bullshit here. cloth bags for dividing up larger packages of dry goods were very very scarce and highly valued. How do you barter that 50lb bucket of pinto beans? A 25pk of deer quartering bags are about 25 bucks at Bass Pro. Probably worth grabbing some as they are non-perishable and take up very little space. -Just because you don't shoot that caliber doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either. Maybe you do need a couple hundred rounds of 30-30, 22wmr, or 270win - Batteries. All kinds, especially rechargeables. Larger lantern size were important then. -Solar panels. Generators were noisy and would get you killed when people came to investigate. Small windmills are still highly visible. Solar could be deployed during the sunny hours and removed when not in use. No sound. Academy has 45 watt panels in the boating dept that are rigged for charging 12 deep cycles. And plenty of resources in SF on what other components may be helpful. -Maintenance items. small tool sets; multitools; common replacement parts ie, zippo flints, charcoal fluid, watch batteries, or other easily storable cheap items that are irreplaceable except in normal times (Walmart) - Sanitation items never go out of style. You might not have a vagina, but someone you know does! -AC powered intelligent car battery charger, a couple group 31 deep cycle marine batteries, and every single 12v DC appliance you can find at the truck stop. Fridge, oven, hot plate, fans, CB radio, you name it. Hell, grab 2 of each. Couple other things to note: - Don't be the guy that "HAS" everything for barter. Be the guy that "knows" someone that may have a little of this or a little of that. - Never barter at your residence or your storage area. Always travel away from your stomping grounds. - Never bring family to your storage if it is at a place other than your residence. Don't get sold out for some spam. - Never bring more than what you immediately want to barter. Don't have 15 zippos NIB. Have one zippo, one pkg of flints, one tube of fluid. - Don't appear wealthy. Dress down. You can wash soiled clothes, but don't scrub out the stains so to speak. Why wear a watch on your wrist when it works in your pocket? - You can travel in groups, but socialize back at base. Don't get ambushed because you are gabbing like the womenz. - We all like highspeed gear, but don't get singled out as someone to take notice of. Stay grey. It might not always be a good idea to run a plate carrier with war belt and thigh rigs 24/7. Blend. - Pick up some old school bags and purses/carry-alls at Goodwill. -You can probably carry 35-45lbs comfortably for a long time, but your little walmart bike can carry your fatass or your fatass equivalent in supplies and probably rolls pretty good. Perhaps the little detachable kid seat is retarded when you have your fatass in the brats face, but may be a lifesaver when you are walking along side. Most of the above I credit to Selko, some of it is mine. |
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www.shtfschool.com is one of the best online resources I have found, other than some of our Argentinian members. Guy was in the Balkans during the war back in 1992-1995. He listed a bunch of stuff that people above have mentioned. He also stated that coffee, alcohol and anything that people could be social over was highly valued. He said it was a big moral thing to be able to pour someone a cup of coffee like things were normal for a minute. Also, he said a couple people may not mention: -Reusable bags. No green bullshit here. cloth bags for dividing up larger packages of dry goods were very very scarce and highly valued. How do you barter that 50lb bucket of pinto beans? A 25pk of deer quartering bags are about 25 bucks at Bass Pro. Probably worth grabbing some as they are non-perishable and take up very little space. -Just because you don't shoot that caliber doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either. Maybe you do need a couple hundred rounds of 30-30, 22wmr, or 270win - Batteries. All kinds, especially rechargeables. Larger lantern size were important then. -Solar panels. Generators were noisy and would get you killed when people came to investigate. Small windmills are still highly visible. Solar could be deployed during the sunny hours and removed when not in use. No sound. Academy has 45 watt panels in the boating dept that are rigged for charging 12 deep cycles. And plenty of resources in SF on what other components may be helpful. -Maintenance items. small tool sets; multitools; common replacement parts ie, zippo flints, charcoal fluid, watch batteries, or other easily storable cheap items that are irreplaceable except in normal times (Walmart) - Sanitation items never go out of style. You might not have a vagina, but someone you know does! -AC powered intelligent car battery charger, a couple group 31 deep cycle marine batteries, and every single 12v DC appliance you can find at the truck stop. Fridge, oven, hot plate, fans, CB radio, you name it. Hell, grab 2 of each. Couple other things to note: - Don't be the guy that "HAS" everything for barter. Be the guy that "knows" someone that may have a little of this or a little of that. - Never barter at your residence or your storage area. Always travel away from your stomping grounds. - Never bring family to your storage if it is at a place other than your residence. Don't get sold out for some spam. - Never bring more than what you immediately want to barter. Don't have 15 zippos NIB. Have one zippo, one pkg of flints, one tube of fluid. - Don't appear wealthy. Dress down. You can wash soiled clothes, but don't scrub out the stains so to speak. Why wear a watch on your wrist when it works in your pocket? - You can travel in groups, but socialize back at base. Don't get ambushed because you are gabbing like the womenz. - We all like highspeed gear, but don't get singled out as someone to take notice of. Stay grey. It might not always be a good idea to run a plate carrier with war belt and thigh rigs 24/7. Blend. - Pick up some old school bags and purses/carry-alls at Goodwill. -You can probably carry 35-45lbs comfortably for a long time, but your little walmart bike can carry your fatass or your fatass equivalent in supplies and probably rolls pretty good. Perhaps the little detachable kid seat is retarded when you have your fatass in the brats face, but may be a lifesaver when you are walking along side. Most of the above I credit to Selko, some of it is mine. /thread |
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Nothing perishable.
As far as barter ammo I would only keep .22LR and 20 and 12 ga shotgun shells. For barter items. I would keep some silver coins, writing paper, lamp oil, candles, calcium carbide, an assortment of sewing thread and needles, cheap blankets. I could keep going on forever here. soap, baking soda, salt, coleman fuel and lantern mantels would be good items. Razor blades. I would only stock things that will keep for many many years with proper storage. |
