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2/11/2013 5:35:56 AM EDT
This may have been posted already, but I searched and didn't find anything, so whatever. I don't drink, so I'm not posting this as an advocate of it, but rather because I was so impressed with the way the officers handled themselves and the situation. Much better than most of the cops in those open carry videos (namely the one posted here yesterday with the fat cop ).



2/11/2013 5:39:08 AM EDT
[#1]
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.
2/11/2013 5:40:30 AM EDT
[#2]
Another rebel with a camera hunting for lawsuit footage.
2/11/2013 5:41:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.
2/11/2013 5:42:25 AM EDT
[#4]
A good whiff of the car during the first 10 seconds is really all they need anyway.






DUI checkpoints are stupid.   Give me a tank of gas and no calls to respond to, I'll go find a drunk.

 
2/11/2013 5:42:31 AM EDT
[#5]
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I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.

I agree.

ETA: Now if the cops were being dumb and assertive, I could see the reasoning behind this.
2/11/2013 5:44:10 AM EDT
[#6]
DUI checkpoints are illegal in WI.
2/11/2013 5:45:20 AM EDT
[#7]
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And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Yes, because obviously I said we should roll over and not fight for our rights.

facepalm.jpg

I'd rather answer the question and move on so the officer would have more time to find the people that are actually driving while intoxicated.
2/11/2013 5:47:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Yes, because obviously I said we should roll over and not fight for our rights.

facepalm.jpg

I'd rather answer the question and move on so the officer would have more time to find the people that are actually driving while intoxicated.


And how exactly is answering the officer's questions a fight for your rights and not just rolling over?
2/11/2013 5:48:26 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Uppity ni***r standing up for her rights. The nerve.

2/11/2013 5:49:22 AM EDT
[#10]



this is escalating nicely .....
2/11/2013 5:49:43 AM EDT
[#11]
IBTL
2/11/2013 5:50:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Whats the point?
2/11/2013 5:52:33 AM EDT
[#13]
Well done.

2/11/2013 5:53:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


http://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc

Very long, but worth it.  The 5th amendment is awesome.  
2/11/2013 5:53:43 AM EDT
[#15]
How about not drinking and driving then you could avoid having to worry about dui checkpoints. I really wish there was stiffer penalties for drinking and driving.
2/11/2013 5:53:50 AM EDT
[#16]
Just remember - the framework is already in place for checkpoints. All the need to do is change some words around and now you have:

* assault weapons checkpoints
* high capacity ammunition clip magazine checkpoints
* white supremacist domestic terrorist conservative literature checkpoints

2/11/2013 5:53:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Not a cool kid, but can someone explain the rights/no rights deal here?
The police seemed to have given up on their questions, and the driver didn't answer....what happened there?
2/11/2013 5:54:17 AM EDT
[#18]
Some folks like seeing cops set up on the road, holding up tracking to make them "safer".

Some folks don't like having their travel impeded for the illusion of "safety".

Those are the only two choices, and if you are the latter and you simply cooperate how do you differentiate yourself from the first?  

Seems to me the driver was the latter and wants it to be known.   Looks to me like a lawful exercise of the 1A, 4A., and 5A.  Good for him.
2/11/2013 5:55:52 AM EDT
[#19]
that dude can play poker
2/11/2013 5:55:53 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Whats the point?


5th Amendment?
2/11/2013 5:56:15 AM EDT
[#21]
I love it...
Ruled unconstitutional in Oregon years ago...as it is...
2/11/2013 5:56:38 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Not a cool kid, but can someone explain the rights/no rights deal here?
The police seemed to have given up on their questions, and the driver didn't answer....what happened there?


quite simply, you're not required nor can you be compelled to answer questions by anyone.
2/11/2013 5:56:54 AM EDT
[#23]
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And how exactly is answering the officer's questions a fight for your rights and not just rolling over?


It's neither.  It's doing what you feel like doing.  You can answer if you want to or you can refuse to answer.  You have the right to do whichever you choose.  I said I would answer just to not waste my time and the time of the two officers.
2/11/2013 5:56:59 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Not a cool kid, but can someone explain the rights/no rights deal here?
The police seemed to have given up on their questions, and the driver didn't answer....what happened there?




2/11/2013 5:57:30 AM EDT
[#25]
PAPERS PLEASE!
2/11/2013 5:57:36 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
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Whats the point?


5th Amendment?


oh you an those pesky amendments...out of here

2/11/2013 5:57:49 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
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I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.

Holy fuck.

2/11/2013 5:58:36 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
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And how exactly is answering the officer's questions a fight for your rights and not just rolling over?


It's neither.  It's doing what you feel like doing.  You can answer if you want to or you can refuse to answer.  You have the right to do whichever you choose.  I said I would answer just to not waste my time and the time of the two officers.


So  you would roll over.  Got it.
2/11/2013 5:58:58 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


http://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc

Very long, but worth it.  The 5th amendment is awesome.  


I watched that a while ago.  I agree that it is a great video.  Thank you for re-posting it so I can watch it again.
2/11/2013 5:58:59 AM EDT
[#30]
Bet he had a trunk load of PMAGs.
2/11/2013 5:59:10 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
How about not drinking and driving then you could avoid having to worry about dui checkpoints. I really wish there was stiffer penalties for drinking and driving.


How about the cops not detain people without reasonable suspicion that a crime is or has taken place?
2/11/2013 5:59:20 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Uppity ni***r standing up for her rights. The nerve.



Try that around Tulsa and see how quickly you can end up with a nice black eye(s) and broken nose for your booking photo.
2/11/2013 6:00:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Calling out "camera whores" is more important than utilizing your rights.

Half of arfcom agrees with the above statement.
2/11/2013 6:01:12 AM EDT
[#34]
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So  you would roll over.  Got it.


If that's what your definition of rolling over is, then yes, I would roll over.  

Thank you for your service and for defending my right to do so.
2/11/2013 6:03:20 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
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Not a cool kid, but can someone explain the rights/no rights deal here?
The police seemed to have given up on their questions, and the driver didn't answer....what happened there?


quite simply, you're not required nor can you be compelled to answer questions by anyone.


So without any cause they cant do anything I assume...had this been a stop for some indicator like driving erratically, speeding, etc then they would have cause?
FYI, I've been told by several police/former police that if you are ever asked about drinking during a stop to respectfully decline any tests, even when you havent been drinking, that they are far too open to interpretation (roadside sobriety tests) or use questionable equipment (breathalyzer). Suck it up, and go to the station for the blood test.
2/11/2013 6:05:29 AM EDT
[#36]
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Another rebel with a camera hunting for lawsuit footage.   Another citizen standing up for his inalienable rights and resisting the incremental degradation of the same.


Fixed it for you.....

2/11/2013 6:06:22 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Another rebel with a camera hunting for lawsuit footage.


Agreed.

Need about 2 million more just like him.
2/11/2013 6:06:39 AM EDT
[#38]
I would answer but i was hammered.
2/11/2013 6:07:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Seems like he was as professional and precise as the officers.



Useful to note that the DUI checkpoint laws vary from state to state and in some instances you might be required to provide your name, DL and insurance.

   
2/11/2013 6:08:35 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Yes, because obviously I said we should roll over and not fight for our rights.

facepalm.jpg

I'd rather answer the question and move on so the officer would have more time to find the people that are actually driving while intoxicated.


The officer is the one choosing how his time is being used because he initiates the encounter.


2/11/2013 6:15:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Seems like he was as professional and precise as the officers.

Useful to note that the DUI checkpoint laws vary from state to state and in some instances you might be required to provide your name, DL and insurance.
   


But not to speak or answer questions. Showing them DL and ins card is all that may be required.
2/11/2013 6:20:46 AM EDT
[#42]
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A good whiff of the car during the first 10 seconds is really all they need anyway.

DUI checkpoints are stupid.   Give me a tank of gas and no calls to respond to, I'll go find a drunk.
 


QFT. The questions and answers are completely irrelevant. All they are looking for is the smell.
2/11/2013 6:21:29 AM EDT
[#43]
Everything this guy in the video did seems just fine to me.

The police arrest and throw people in jail for breaking the law; destroying lives. I think it's only fair that in their quest for justice they also follow the law.
2/11/2013 6:23:34 AM EDT
[#44]
Never seen one in WA...as it should be.
2/11/2013 6:25:21 AM EDT
[#45]
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Everything this guy in the video did seems just fine to me.

The police arrest and throw people in jail for breaking the law; destroying lives. I think it's only fair that in their quest for justice they also follow the law.


I hate it when the police destroy criminals lives after the criminals committ crimes. Damn them all to hell. (You probably call the police about noisy neighors)
2/11/2013 6:25:53 AM EDT
[#46]
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I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Uppity ni***r standing up for her rights. The nerve.



Try that around Tulsa and see how quickly you can end up with a nice black eye(s) and broken nose for your booking photo.


I think the reason I have no idea what you're talking about is because I think you have no idea what *I'm* talking about.

2/11/2013 6:26:52 AM EDT
[#47]
Unconstitutional stop / seizure is still unconstitutional. I hope more people behave like the person in the video.
2/11/2013 6:28:25 AM EDT
[#48]
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DUI checkpoints are illegal in WI.


Hell yeah as they should be everywhere.
2/11/2013 6:28:42 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


http://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc

Very long, but worth it.  The 5th amendment is awesome.  


The Chris Rock version is much more appropriate for GD.

2/11/2013 6:30:43 AM EDT
[#50]
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I guess I'm not a cool kid, I would just answer and be on my way instead of wasting 2 minutes of my time and the officers' time.


And Rosa Parks should have sat in the back.


Uppity ni***r standing up for her rights. The nerve.



Try that around Tulsa and see how quickly you can end up with a nice black eye(s) and broken nose for your booking photo.


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