Posted: 1/31/2013 11:32:52 AM EDT
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ID Chipped gun? Would you buy a gun that was chipped to ID you before it would fire? It would be programmable to allow who ever you want in the household be able to fire it. Not mandatory For myself I know if they made this available some moron law makers would make it mandatory and there we go. But, for me if they had this available I think it might work good for my wife and I at night, we have little ones running around here (grand kids) and they are here 4 or 5 days a week, over night too. So this would allow the back of the head board mount with out worry and that one might forget to put it away in the morning or that little curious people might find the gun. All our kids have been taught gun safety and shooting since they could walk. Still there is never a 100 % guarantee |
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NOPE I don't want anything electronic to PREVENT my gun from going bang when needed. It'd be my luck that it would fuck up & render me non-op when I really need to be shooting. I wouldn't want to get killed from a lack of returning fire. Plus, the NAZIS that comprise the left have already pushed for "smart gun" technology to be mandatory, even when the tech didn't exist. Give them nothing. |
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That's just one more thing to cause a malfunction. If I need to pull the trigger, the gun needs to go off. This. Also, the 'thing' we're discussing here falls under 'electronics'. So... doubly No. Two ways to go with this... 1) Electronics on the fire control components of a gun are really dumb, because if the battery dies, your gun dies with it. So now you have to keep it fed with both bullets and power to keep it going. Less than optimal for a self defense weapon. 2) If the electronic control trips the trigger in any way, it's a machinegun. This is because it would be a cinch to have multiple programmed modes of fire, a la cheater software on a paintball gun. |
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Wouldn't touch a gun with that or any other kind of similar tech. Some well meaning engineer would add bluetooth and wireless to it and before I know it, some kid is is remotely firing my pistol. Seriously though, no, not now, not ever. Maybe they could set it up so you could use your gun to make phone calls and surf the web. |
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Everytime I hear about such things, all I can think about is how many times it would malfunction.
It would shoot nice at the range the first time you took it out and then I could see it not recognizing you on the next range trip or whenever you NEED it. You sitting there for minutes, trying to reset the damn thing or figure out why it's not unlocking to let you fire. I would not be comfortable with one. Just another piece of technology that causes you to be reliant upon it working. |
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That's just one more thing to cause a malfunction. If I need to pull the trigger, the gun needs to go off. This. Also, the 'thing' we're discussing here falls under 'electronics'. So... doubly No. Two ways to go with this... 1) Electronics on the fire control components of a gun are really dumb, because if the battery dies, your gun dies with it. So now you have to keep it fed with both bullets and power to keep it going. Less than optimal for a self defense weapon. 2) If the electronic control trips the trigger in any way, it's a machinegun. This is because it would be a cinch to have multiple programmed modes of fire, a la cheater software on a paintball gun. Yup, if an optic or light fails on my rifle, I've still got a perfectly good rifle. If the solid state components that failed were integral to the operation of the weapon itself, well then - I'd have a very expensive, unwieldy club. |
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Wouldn't touch a gun with that or any other kind of similar tech. Some well meaning engineer would add bluetooth and wireless to it and before I know it, some kid is is remotely firing my pistol. Seriously though, no, not now, not ever. Maybe they could set it up so you could use your gun to make phone calls and surf the web. Next up would be a rail mounted camera and somebody would accidentally shoot themselves in the junk while updating their FB status or uploading to youtube. |
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2 things 1) if bio id locks work that great, let the LOE and Military use them first. If they don't work well enough for the those guys, why should we consider them good enough for the rest of us. 2) rather than a bio lock, just get a bio recorder (and add gps data, or even a camera for that matter). NO changes at all to the action or barrel, but could be useful after the fact (for loe and military first though) |
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2 things 1) if bio id locks work that great, let the LOE and Military use them first. If they don't work well enough for the those guys, why should we consider them good enough for the rest of us. 2) rather than a bio lock, just get a bio recorder (and add gps data, or even a camera for that matter). NO changes at all to the action or barrel, but could be useful after the fact (for loe and military first though) What is the reason for #2, other than adding weight to a weapon? |
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2) If the electronic control trips the trigger in any way, it's a machinegun. This is because it would be a cinch to have multiple programmed modes of fire, a la cheater software on a paintball gun. Is that a fact? Did the ATF come up with that? 99.999% certain. The only configuration in which an electronic fire control mechanism can be used on a firearm is if the design is such that it's difficult or near impossible to make self-feeding. Competition free pistols nowadays often have electronic fire control, which gets you about a 50 gram trigger pull. Yes, you read that right. A 1 3/4 ounce pull. You can go lighter than that, except that there's a safety rule which says the gun can't fire itself if you hold the barrel upright. The trigger has to be at least heavy enough that it can't fire under its own weight. Yarly. Anyhow, free pistols are all single-shots, usually a falling block "Hammerli-type" action. It's legal because there's pretty much no way to convert it into a machinegun. You could trip the firing pin multiple times, but that would just keep striking an empty cartridge. But if you put a solenoid in the FCG of your AR, all you'd need to do to make it a machinegun is to reprogram the software to send multiple fire commands for each pull of the trigger. Which is a $35 electronics board from a cheap paintball gun. This is why you can't use electronics, or even an electric motor, in a "crank-type" trigger puller. It has to be manual. Chuck up a cordless drill to your 10/22 novelty toy, and that's a felony. Hope that all makes sense. I can't point you to a source. |