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1/23/2013 7:18:03 PM EDT
Yea? Nay?
1/23/2013 7:20:44 PM EDT
[#1]
premium care yes. extra care and base care no.
1/23/2013 8:31:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, but ask for a deal as they're negotiable, and there's a very large profit margin..
1/23/2013 8:33:14 PM EDT
[#3]




Quoted:

premium care yes. extra care and base care no.




That's what I have for the Mustang.



Time will tell if it was worth it or not.
1/24/2013 4:21:55 AM EDT
[#4]
I was looking online thru the levels, briefly.

I'm still In the current bumper to bumper and recall something about power train going further, to 5/60.
1/24/2013 5:01:56 AM EDT
[#5]
Check with your Attorney General's office (website?). Some states have Implied Warranties that greatly exceed what the manufacturer's is without having to pay anything extra. Here in Maine, used car dealers are the only ones that can disclaim the state implied warranty. With their short warranties, Ford new car dealerships are frequently having to repair for free past their stated warranty.
1/24/2013 5:06:25 AM EDT
[#6]
I say it depends on what vehicle you have. I have an 06' f350 with 6.0 diesel that I bought with 7k miles on it. However the factory warranty ran out because of time so I got the premium care package and it has paid off.
At 23k miles head gaskets blew, at 27k turbo went out, at 33k high pressure oil pump went out, at 34k head gaskets blew again, at 40k turbo and 3 injectors went out, at 44k egr cooler went out. All added up to over $20 in repair costs. I would say the warranty has been good for it.

Long story short, if you have a diesel it is absolutely worth it. If you have something more reliable it may not be.
1/24/2013 5:11:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Fix Or Repair Daily.

Buy a Ford, buy an extended warranty.  People say what they want that love them, but I guarantee you'll have less problems with other manufacturers.  Same thing with Dodge.
1/24/2013 5:19:02 AM EDT
[#8]
I am a Ford certified master tech. If you want things that break fixed get Premium care.
1/24/2013 5:24:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Definatly yea for us. We bought the Ecoboost f150, and that plan is awesome. We also got the tire plan, which is awesome. The only thing not covered by the plans are alignments. We take the truck in, drop it off, they give us a rental, and by the end of the day, everything is done.

They have replaced a tire that got a flat. Replaced it now, not patched it.

The threading in the driveres seat came undone, and they replaced the seat covers. Not just pulled the old one off and rethread, but new seat covers.

All fluids are covered, this includes wind shield washer fluid.

Radio was doing a weird thing of bouncing the music back and forth between speakers. They replaced the entire audio system. New speakers, new radio, new everything.

Every 5000 miles we drop it off, and everything is good to go. Very glad we got it. Simply awesome.
1/24/2013 5:28:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Get premium care only.  Watch out for deductibles.  Everything is negotiable.

Go to this site below first and then ask your dealer if they will match their price.  If not buy direct from Flood.  The warranty is honored at any dealer.

http://www.floodfordesp.com/
1/24/2013 5:30:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I am a Ford certified master tech. If you want things that break fixed get Premium care.


I am also a Ford master tech, and I couldn't agree with this more.
1/24/2013 5:30:38 AM EDT
[#12]
As stated, for a diesel definitely. Especially if you plan on keeping it for a long time.

It's also transferable to a new owner. When I sold the King Ranch, I got every nickle back as the remaining warranty was actually better than the factory warranty on a new truck.

The buyer really appreciated that. Also google for the ESPs as they can be bought online from Ford/Lincoln/Mercury dealer substantially less.

DieselCare and PremiumCare.
1/24/2013 5:37:25 AM EDT
[#13]
Depends on if you can afford to have shit fixed or not outright.  Insurance is a negative expected return game so it's only real utility is for insuring things that you can't afford to pay for yourself like a total loss of house or car.  I've never understood why people buy extended service plans or insurance for shit like TVs and Phones.

If a potential four digit repair is going to break you, then get the extended plan.  If not, then don't.  

Just my opinion.  I prefer to only play negative expected return games when there are free drinks involved.
1/24/2013 5:43:35 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
premium care yes. extra care and base care no.


I have the Premium for my F150.

With all the Nav,  Sync stuff and electronic do dads, it worth it, if something breaks
1/24/2013 5:49:53 AM EDT
[#15]
If you are anything like me: if you buy it, you'll never need if - if you don't buy it shit will break.....
1/24/2013 5:53:31 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
.... and there's a very large profit margin..


Usually more than on the car purchase.

Why would a dealer be so interested in selling you this very expensive coverage?

Think for a minute.

Could it be because they make WAY more on it than it costs them?

Put the cost of the policy into savings and use that for any non-warranty repairs.  You will come out ahead.

1/24/2013 6:05:15 AM EDT
[#17]
A 5 year warranty is not a 5 year warranty if it starts when the vehicle is brand new. It's a two year extended warrenty.  
My Ranger came with a an extended 5 year warranty...I mean 2 year extended warranty for free.
1/24/2013 6:16:36 AM EDT
[#18]
If we're that worried about this thing breaking down and costing me that large of an amount of money before it's five years old, maybe I should check into other ones. I do realize anything can malfunction or break, but it's not unreasonable to expect to be free of expensive repairs for five years. Especially repairs of the nature that are usually covered by these extended warranty plans.
That usually shuts "em up on the "extended warranty/ peace of mind talk"
1/24/2013 6:47:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Yes, Premium Care. It can easily pay for itself in one major repair. I think mine have a $100 deductible.
1/24/2013 8:07:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
premium care yes. extra care and base care no.


I have the Premium for my F150.

With all the Nav,  Sync stuff and electronic do dads, it worth it, if something breaks


That's mainly what I was thinking of .......... all the electronic stuff.  

A control module?  The cost of the policy -$100. Paid in one shot.

Then maybe the fancy double clutch automatic?  Paid -$100

The new electronic steering?  Paid -$100


I'm just digging into the premium package a bit more.  Along with that Flood website and then cutting a deal
1/24/2013 8:13:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Get premium care only.  Watch out for deductibles.  Everything is negotiable.

Go to this site below first and then ask your dealer if they will match their price.  If not buy direct from Flood.  The warranty is honored at any dealer.

http://www.floodfordesp.com/


Ok, Florida is not allowed online policies.

But Georgia rates seem like a decent ballpark for research purposes.


One question at the moment:

"Remember all ESP plans start at the vehicles original retail date and mileage."


So, for example, a 6yr policy on a 2011, would really only have 4 years left?
1/24/2013 8:27:41 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
.... and there's a very large profit margin..


Usually more than on the car purchase.

Why would a dealer be so interested in selling you this very expensive coverage?

Think for a minute.

Could it be because they make WAY more on it than it costs them?

Put the cost of the policy into savings and use that for any non-warranty repairs.  You will come out ahead.


Many fail to do this last part. My ride around town is a '98 Lumina. I put 75 bucks out of every paycheck into an "Auto Repair" account. Usually have about a grand as the balance. Anything over that goes into my "New 2016 Vehicle" account.

I've tried to tell my daughters they should "tax" themselves so much a mile and do the same, but they say they can't afford that. Oh, well. We'll see how they can afford a major repair or a new vehicle some years down the road.

(The youngest did manage to go to the SEC Championship Game in Atlanta last December)

1/24/2013 8:30:52 AM EDT
[#23]
No.

We just got a 2013 Edge and turned down all the extra coverage.

Fact is you can insure yourself into eternity, and never have to pay a dime for anything ever.

You will also go bankrupt.
1/24/2013 8:32:28 AM EDT
[#24]
Worth it, paid for a $2000 repair, cost was 900
1/24/2013 9:10:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
premium care yes. extra care and base care no.


I have the Premium for my F150.

With all the Nav,  Sync stuff and electronic do dads, it worth it, if something breaks


That's mainly what I was thinking of .......... all the electronic stuff.  

A control module?  The cost of the policy -$100. Paid in one shot.

Then maybe the fancy double clutch automatic?  Paid -$100

The new electronic steering?  Paid -$100


I'm just digging into the premium package a bit more.  Along with that Flood website and then cutting a deal


I did not pay nearly what a off the street person pays for the Premium package.

It's nice to know a Ford Service Manager.
1/24/2013 9:17:41 AM EDT
[#26]
The last "extended warranty" I bought was on my Nissan Maxima...

Just into the extended warranty, the car blew the end off of the A/C high side line due to a manufacturer defect in the connector. Even the stealership mechanic agreed that it was a mfr defect...

Price of new hose incuding install, vacuum purge, coolant, etc was over $500...


Warranty people said, "hoses are "wear items" and are NOT covered..."

I told stealership to make this right or I would never buy another car from them again.



...and I won't.
1/24/2013 9:23:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Call Ford customer service complain about something small a couple of times, and they will give you the best plan for 75,000 miles to make you happy.
1/24/2013 10:07:21 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
The last "extended warranty" I bought was on my Nissan Maxima...

Just into the extended warranty, the car blew the end off of the A/C high side line due to a manufacturer defect in the connector. Even the stealership mechanic agreed that it was a mfr defect...

Price of new hose incuding install, vacuum purge, coolant, etc was over $500...


Warranty people said, "hoses are "wear items" and are NOT covered..."

I told stealership to make this right or I would never buy another car from them again.



...and I won't.


This is how extended warranty providers weasel out.

There are some that cover wear and tear. Check out WARRANTYDIRECT.COM AND CARCHEX.COM and others.

Don't just assume you have to go with the extended warranty offered by the dealer.
1/24/2013 10:12:31 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
If we're that worried about this thing breaking down and costing me that large of an amount of money before it's five years old, maybe I should check into other ones. I do realize anything can malfunction or break, but it's not unreasonable to expect to be free of expensive repairs for five years. Especially repairs of the nature that are usually covered by these extended warranty plans.
That usually shuts "em up on the "extended warranty/ peace of mind talk"


When was the last time you bought a new car?

What are you driving now?

1/24/2013 10:15:26 AM EDT
[#30]
This, I bought a car in August. I let the guy give his spew, and just sat quite for about five seconds and he offered a better deal. We played that game a few more times until I felt the deal was good. I didn't even ask for a better deal... Let them work themselves into a corner. :)
1/24/2013 10:16:21 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
This, I bought a car in August. I let the guy give his spew, and just sat quite for about five seconds and he offered a better deal. We played that game a few more times until I felt the deal was good. I didn't even ask for a better deal... Let them work themselves into a corner. :)


eta on phone meant to quote a negotiation suggestion.
1/24/2013 10:20:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Absofriginlutely.

Got it on my last Mustang, and it saved me thousands.

When my current Mustang gets close to the end of the factory warranty I will get it again.

Those that poo-poo the idea haven't bought a newer car with all of it's machanical complexities.

There can be no doubt, one or two issues will see you get your money back, and more will save you big. There is nothing like having the complete peace of mind that when something breaks, it gets fixed at little or no charge.
1/24/2013 10:27:10 AM EDT
[#33]
And i will never work at a dealership again...glad i got out of that world
1/24/2013 10:33:15 AM EDT
[#34]
For everyone that uses it, there are ten that never touch it.  These things are a huge profit center, almost a license to steal.  The dealerships don't push these things this hard because they have your best interests at heart.
1/24/2013 10:46:02 AM EDT
[#35]

One question at the moment:

"Remember all ESP plans start at the vehicles original retail date and mileage."


So, for example, a 7yr policy on a 2011, would really only have 4 years left?

1/24/2013 3:11:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Not all plans start from in-service-date,
Despite what some of these other people are saying, some policies start form the date you purchase and the miles already on the vehicle, and add from there, you just need to make sure you confirm that,
I'm a 19year finance manager that sells them, so I do know...

And regarding the guy that said to call and just complain about stuff, so the give you free shit....
Come on......, really???
Not the best idea....

Warranty's aren't for everyone,
A good way to look at it,
Is can you afford not to have one?
If you have a $3500 repair order, can you pay it, with out batting an eye?
If you do decide to get one, just do your due diligence...