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1/14/2013 11:56:56 PM EDT
has just declared that I am a criminal.
1/14/2013 11:58:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Leave it.
1/14/2013 11:59:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?
1/15/2013 12:00:05 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Leave it.




Would you leave your home?


Yes.

 


1/15/2013 12:01:17 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


Yup, if it was run like your home state is.


ETA: We had a winter home in upstate NY when I was a kid.  No way I would live there now.  Fuck it, move to a free state.  If you like the cold WY and MT are GTG.
1/15/2013 12:02:46 AM EDT
[#5]
You're behind enemy lines, friend.

The enemy doesn't give up when they're in our part of the country.  Don't give up there.
1/15/2013 12:03:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


Yes.



1/15/2013 12:04:41 AM EDT
[#7]
I know it's easy for me to say, and I recognize the sacrifice it would mean to many, but its time for an exodus.
The time has come for free men to leave NY.....while they still can.

The only thing that those in power care about is more power....and they need your tax dollars to fund their kingdom. Take your money and leave.

To all the guys spouting off about having a drink to deal with this, or making large talk about a revolution....do something with meaning instead....gather your assets, reduce your footprint, and leave. It is the only way to defeat this particular kind of tyrany. It can only exist if you fund it. Stop.
1/15/2013 12:04:47 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


I am single, not married and have no more ties than a job here.  So yes, I would.  I cannot answer the same for you, so good point.
1/15/2013 12:05:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Leave it.


Yes just like our founders did...
1/15/2013 12:06:53 AM EDT
[#10]
NO,

You stay and defend it with all the others.





1/15/2013 12:07:14 AM EDT
[#11]
All the people that suggest jumping states are probably the same that bitch and piss and moan when someone says they are going to leave the country.
1/15/2013 12:07:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
You're behind enemy lines, friend.

The enemy doesn't give up when they're in our part of the country.  Don't give up there.


1/15/2013 12:07:54 AM EDT
[#13]
The state of New York has turned its back on you.

Start looking for work in another state and get out as soon as possible.
1/15/2013 12:08:07 AM EDT
[#14]
We need to rally around our NY brethren.  This is coming to a state near you soon.

1/15/2013 12:09:02 AM EDT
[#15]
What happens when we run out of states to leave?
1/15/2013 12:10:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


I was once told that a true patriot doesn't turn their back on their government.
My response is to question how patriotic it is to continue to supplant a government that in no way resembles the founding principles of the republic.

Home is where the heart is.
I believe the time has come for you to find a new place to love.
1/15/2013 12:12:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I know it's easy for me to say, and I recognize the sacrifice it would mean to many, but its time for an exodus.
The time has come for free men to leave NY.....while they still can.

The only thing that those in power care about is more power....and they need your tax dollars to fund their kingdom. Take your money and leave.

To all the guys spouting off about having a drink to deal with this, or making large talk about a revolution....do something with meaning instead....gather your assets, reduce your footprint, and leave. It is the only way to defeat this particular kind of tyrany. It can only exist if you fund it. Stop.


Wrong, they will just follow. The electorate is changing in this country, pretty soon it will be the same everywhere. Why move, for ten maybe fifteen years of freedom before we see a federal ban just as restrictive. No we cannot give up one more inch. Those who say we shouldn't fight, when would you have us fight? When ammunition is impossible to get or when our numbers have dwindled further? No the time to fight is early on when it can do some good.
1/15/2013 12:13:16 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
NO,

You stay and defend it with all the others.







Precisely what is left to defend?
The 2nd amendment was effectively repealed in NY...should New Yorkers remain part of the tax base and defend this?
1/15/2013 12:15:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


I was once told that a true patriot doesn't turn their back on their government.
My response is to question how patriotic it is to continue to supplant a government that in no way resembles the founding principles of the republic.

Home is where the heart is.
I believe the time has come for you to find a new place to love.


Moving will never work, eventually we will all run out of places to run to. The demographics of this country are changing. If we don't fight now we will never have the numbers on our side like we do now. People will become used to their new chains and not wish to upset their masters. No now is exactly the right time to fight.
1/15/2013 12:15:46 AM EDT
[#20]
Don't leave!  Stand up for your rights. Every gun owner in New York State need to march on the state capital now.

Give your leaders the chance to do what's right And let them know they will be held accountable for their actions.
1/15/2013 12:18:55 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
All the people that suggest jumping states are probably the same that bitch and piss and moan when someone says they are going to leave the country.


The only way to defeat this beast is to starve it.
Unless NY residents can find a way to reduce their state tax contribution to zero, those who remain as citizens there are just helping fund gun control.

This isn't some apocalyptic fantasy....there won't be a shooting war over this...a free man can choose to be part of the solution or part of the problem. If it were me, I would take my assets and relocate them to a state where the representatives still honor the constitution.

Don't think for a second that these cretins can survive without looting their constituents.
Starve them.
Today.
1/15/2013 12:21:28 AM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


has just declared that I am a criminal.


Sell those guns down to ten.

 



Do you have a list of what will be for sale?
1/15/2013 12:24:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?


I have... twice.  Do what your heart and mind dictates.
1/15/2013 12:26:09 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I know it's easy for me to say, and I recognize the sacrifice it would mean to many, but its time for an exodus.
The time has come for free men to leave NY.....while they still can.

The only thing that those in power care about is more power....and they need your tax dollars to fund their kingdom. Take your money and leave.

To all the guys spouting off about having a drink to deal with this, or making large talk about a revolution....do something with meaning instead....gather your assets, reduce your footprint, and leave. It is the only way to defeat this particular kind of tyrany. It can only exist if you fund it. Stop.


Wrong, they will just follow. The electorate is changing in this country, pretty soon it will be the same everywhere. Why move, for ten maybe fifteen years of freedom before we see a federal ban just as restrictive. No we cannot give up one more inch. Those who say we shouldn't fight, when would you have us fight? When ammunition is impossible to get or when our numbers have dwindled further? No the time to fight is early on when it can do some good.


How will you (or anyone) fight what is already done?
Sounds like victims of a hurricane staying around to fight the storm after it has already passed and left debris in its wake.

I get what you are saying....and frankly, I agree that the future is a bit unsettling, but what exactly is there left to fight for or defend in NY? The damage is done. There is no way to defeat this thing...not legally at least. The way to win the nation is to send a message to other state representatives that if they do the same, a significant percentage of the tax base will up and leave. Without the tax revenue, the state folds.

The time to vote on the bill has ended. It's time to vote with ones dollar.
1/15/2013 12:27:18 AM EDT
[#25]
act like one.
1/15/2013 12:28:23 AM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Leave it.




Would you leave your home?


I will if my state does.

 



I will NOT surrender my means of self defense.
1/15/2013 12:42:44 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I know it's easy for me to say, and I recognize the sacrifice it would mean to many, but its time for an exodus.
The time has come for free men to leave NY.....while they still can.

The only thing that those in power care about is more power....and they need your tax dollars to fund their kingdom. Take your money and leave.

To all the guys spouting off about having a drink to deal with this, or making large talk about a revolution....do something with meaning instead....gather your assets, reduce your footprint, and leave. It is the only way to defeat this particular kind of tyrany. It can only exist if you fund it. Stop.


Wrong, they will just follow. The electorate is changing in this country, pretty soon it will be the same everywhere. Why move, for ten maybe fifteen years of freedom before we see a federal ban just as restrictive. No we cannot give up one more inch. Those who say we shouldn't fight, when would you have us fight? When ammunition is impossible to get or when our numbers have dwindled further? No the time to fight is early on when it can do some good.


How will you (or anyone) fight what is already done?
Sounds like victims of a hurricane staying around to fight the storm after it has already passed and left debris in its wake.

I get what you are saying....and frankly, I agree that the future is a bit unsettling, but what exactly is there left to fight for or defend in NY? The damage is done. There is no way to defeat this thing...not legally at least. The way to win the nation is to send a message to other state representatives that if they do the same, a significant percentage of the tax base will up and leave. Without the tax revenue, the state folds.

The time to vote on the bill has ended. It's time to vote with ones dollar.


The laws our founders fought against were already enacted when they fought. The regime the Syrans are fighting is in power but they are winning. We can fight and we can win, we can be sure that this type of law never makes it to other states.
1/15/2013 12:52:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?



Damn skippy I would.

When "Home" is no longer the welcoming place it should be, it is no longer "home".


And if you think that being declared a criminal when yesterday you were not, is welcoming,  you are crazy and should stay there.



1/15/2013 1:36:06 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
What happens when we run out of states to leave?


In before the P-Mag popper images
1/15/2013 2:00:19 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Leave it.


Would you leave your home?

Yes.  



I'd leave New York in a flash.
1/15/2013 2:01:49 AM EDT
[#31]



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Quoted:


Quoted:

Leave it.




Would you leave your home?


Yes.  






I'd leave in a New York minute.


fixt



 
1/15/2013 2:06:05 AM EDT
[#32]
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We need to rally around our NY brethren.  This is coming to a state near you soon.



this   the line has been drawn  if it`s not stopped here  where will it be stopped
1/15/2013 2:08:23 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
What happens when we run out of states to leave?


We'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.
1/15/2013 2:08:53 AM EDT
[#34]
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and they need your tax dollars to fund their kingdom. Take your money and leave.

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I agree with Macro, get the hell out and seek refuge in a free state.  If enough people and business leave, they will feel the economic punishment in the next few years.  I honestly think that the time has come where Conservative and Constitution loving people will need to retreat and consolidate politically in the free states to preserve what’s left of America.  Just my humble opinion on that.

I have decided that the socialist Democrats will stop at nothing until everything is ravaged.  Hell, they can't even leave unborn and unwanted babies alone without wanting to destroy them too!

Even the Germans don't trust them now (from previous thread today) and they are taking their treasure back:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-14/it-begins-bundesbank-commence-repatriating-gold-new-york-fed

1/15/2013 2:16:30 AM EDT
[#35]
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We need to rally around our NY brethren.  This is coming to a state near you soon.



this   the line has been drawn  if it`s not stopped here  where will it be stopped


Yep. Politicians are like children in a room full of glass windows. They all know that throwing rocks and busting the windows out is wrong However, once that first kid picks up a rock and smashes one, it's game on for all of them. It's that crazy herd mentality. This will give those who were "neutral" or weakly supported us elsewhere more incentive to throw us under the bus.
1/15/2013 2:17:50 AM EDT
[#36]
Contact the 2AF, and sue the state on Heller premises as unconstitutional.