[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Chemtrails, the irrefutable proof! (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 1/2/2013 1:37:46 PM EDT
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(or so I was told) Right here: So, someone in our little corner of the internet is going to know what they're looking at. I honestly don't, and I can't quite buy the idea that thousands of planes are dumping millions of gallons of poison all over the country. A person at a dinner the other night showed me this vid as the irrefutable proof. "Check out the nozzles, man!". I know precisely shit about aviation and I'd like someone to explain this so that I might pass it on. I looked through the youtube comments but it's all tinfoil shit. If there was a rational explanation offered I assume it was deleted. edit: embed/text fail |
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So have you ever been on a large jet?
The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! |
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It certainly doesn't help convince the tinfoil hat brigade that sprayer planes are a common piece of kit for agriculture across the globe, they use planes that size when spraying large areas for pests like the painted apple moth.
http://i1.treknature.com/photos/973/sparing.jpg ^^^ Link to pic from the eradication program down this way a while back. |
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Quoted: So have you ever been on a large jet? The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! That's what I told him initially- vapor trails. Also mentioned large scale crop dusting. He wasn't buying it. Apparently I need to "wake up". This wasn't the only bit of tin foilery I received, but the only one I care to address. The rest was even crazier.
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Quoted: The person at dinner, who showed you that video...along with the person who MADE that video, are fucking morons. You know what the funny thing is? He is a very successful engineer in his mid 50's. Great career, an extremely "smart" person. And he shows me this video as chemtrail proof. Then goes on about how we never landed on the moon. Then explains that the planes on 9/11 were holograms. I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. I was sort of at a loss for words...
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Quoted: Quoted: So have you ever been on a large jet? The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! That's what I told him initially- vapor trails. Also mentioned large scale crop dusting. He wasn't buying it. Apparently I need to "wake up". This wasn't the only bit of tin foilery I received, but the only one I care to address. The rest was even crazier. You can't leave it at that! Spill... m |
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How is lift generated? Higher pressure under the wing than on top. This dynamic pressure differential can cause contrail formation in super-saturated air. Super-saturated air also makes for persistent contrails. Because these parcels of air can be sporadic in distribution, it is possible for a flight path contrail to be dashed. Think of air layers like waves on the ocean, if the flight path is through the crests of the waves, you get that dashed contrail. Or you see starts and stops. They ARE chemtrails, the chemical is dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide  |
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How is lift generated? Higher pressure under the wing than on top. This dynamic pressure differential can cause contrail formation in super-saturated air. Super-saturated air also makes for persistent contrails. Because these parcels of air can be sporadic in distribution, it is possible for a flight path contrail to be dashed. Think of air layers like waves on the ocean, if the flight path is through the crests of the waves, you get that dashed contrail. Or you see starts and stops. They ARE chemtrails, the chemical is dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide
Someday you may try explaining things not in a way that's more complicated than necessary. Try it, see if results change. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The person at dinner, who showed you that video...along with the person who MADE that video, are fucking morons. You know what the funny thing is? He is a very successful engineer in his mid 50's. Great career, an extremely "smart" person. And he shows me this video as chemtrail proof. Then goes on about how we never landed on the moon. Then explains that the planes on 9/11 were holograms. I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. I was sort of at a loss for words... I know a lot of successful engineers that did a lot of drugs in college. This tends to have various effects later in life. Many of these guys are dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes right down to common sense, day to day thoughts. Most of them can't spell worth a shit, or write in proper, complete sentences. |
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Actually the icing rig uses a specially modified refueling boom that sprays water droplets. This video is not that. I assumed (my bad) from the inset picture showing the F 22 or F 35
This video is simply condensation from the vortices generated by the structures on the wings... |
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How is lift generated? Higher pressure under the wing than on top. This dynamic pressure differential can cause contrail formation in super-saturated air. Super-saturated air also makes for persistent contrails. Because these parcels of air can be sporadic in distribution, it is possible for a flight path contrail to be dashed. Think of air layers like waves on the ocean, if the flight path is through the crests of the waves, you get that dashed contrail. Or you see starts and stops. They ARE chemtrails, the chemical is dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide
That sounds scary, we should ban it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So have you ever been on a large jet? The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! That's what I told him initially- vapor trails. Also mentioned large scale crop dusting. He wasn't buying it. Apparently I need to "wake up". This wasn't the only bit of tin foilery I received, but the only one I care to address. The rest was even crazier. You can't leave it at that! Spill... m Well if you go to any of the conspiracy theory websites, he had pretty much all of them figured as gospel truth. Kubrick fabricated the moon landing. The 9/11 planes were holograms and WTC 7 was a planned demolition. Reptilians walk among us. There is an alien war going on for our planet. The .gov is run by aliens. Etc etc blah blah.. He is married to a friend of my mom's so I kept my mouth shut for the most part, besides it was kind of entertaining. I think he finally got a little frustrated with me when I rejected the idea that aliens had showed all the ancient civilizations how to build pyramids. It was around that time he walked away and went to talk with someone else.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The person at dinner, who showed you that video...along with the person who MADE that video, are fucking morons. You know what the funny thing is? He is a very successful engineer in his mid 50's. Great career, an extremely "smart" person. And he shows me this video as chemtrail proof. Then goes on about how we never landed on the moon. Then explains that the planes on 9/11 were holograms. I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. I was sort of at a loss for words... I know a lot of successful engineers that did a lot of drugs in college. This tends to have various effects later in life. Many of these guys are dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes right down to common sense, day to day thoughts. Most of them can't spell worth a shit, or write in proper, complete sentences. From what I was told he had a cocaine problem for awhile. |
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Quoted: Actually the icing rig uses a specially modified refueling boom that sprays water droplets. This video is not that. I assumed (my bad) from the inset picture showing the F 22 or F 35 This video is simply condensation from the vortices generated by the structures on the wings... His argument was that they appeared to turn on and off. A reasonable claim if we're talking about anything else, since the vapor trail generation does seem to be inconsistent. He showed me another video with a close-up, I'll see if I can find it.
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The person at dinner, who showed you that video...along with the person who MADE that video, are fucking morons. You know what the funny thing is? He is a very successful engineer in his mid 50's. Great career, an extremely "smart" person. And he shows me this video as chemtrail proof. Then goes on about how we never landed on the moon. Then explains that the planes on 9/11 were holograms. I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. I was sort of at a loss for words... ALWAYS remember that EDUCATED does not mean SMART. Ask him if he thinks the Russians had the ability to triangulate a radio signal when the moon landing occurred. |
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So have you ever been on a large jet? The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! That's what I told him initially- vapor trails. Also mentioned large scale crop dusting. He wasn't buying it. Apparently I need to "wake up". This wasn't the only bit of tin foilery I received, but the only one I care to address. The rest was even crazier. LOL, go to the approach end of the airport and watch the landing airplanes. This works even better when it's foggy. Notice the vortices of fog, aka contrails, coming off the ends of the wings. Half the time, if the dewpoint is high enough, you'll get contrails off of every surface that sticks out. Edges of flaps, trim tabs, pylons, and the end of the empennage. |
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Quoted: How is lift generated? Higher pressure under the wing than on top. This dynamic pressure differential can cause contrail formation in super-saturated air. Super-saturated air also makes for persistent contrails. Because these parcels of air can be sporadic in distribution, it is possible for a flight path contrail to be dashed. Think of air layers like waves on the ocean, if the flight path is through the crests of the waves, you get that dashed contrail. Or you see starts and stops. They ARE chemtrails, the chemical is dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide Do you that they've found traces of that stuff in EVERY WATER SUPPLY IN THE COUNTRY!? Think about that next time you take a drink.   |
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Quoted: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/kc10_f18.jpg  Don't fall for the derp. That's not a problem I anticipate. |
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(or so I was told) Right here: So, someone in our little corner of the internet is going to know what they're looking at. I honestly don't, and I can't quite buy the idea that thousands of planes are dumping millions of gallons of poison all over the country. A person at a dinner the other night showed me this vid as the irrefutable proof. "Check out the nozzles, man!". I know precisely shit about aviation and I'd like someone to explain this so that I might pass it on. I looked through the youtube comments but it's all tinfoil shit. If there was a rational explanation offered I assume it was deleted. edit: embed/text fail When the air is very saturated with moisture, a wing or any other obstruction, that creates lift or a higher velocity due to shape, creates a lower pressure area. When the pressure is lowered in saturated air, water vapor turns into water droplets and they form visible moisture like clouds, contrails, and the vsibe water vapor you see in that video from the engines, wings, and flap screw covers. ( what the video says are nozzles) It is nt uncommon to see water apor contrais turn on and ff as the aircraft transits air that has more and less water in it. |
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So have you ever been on a large jet? The pylon's underneath are for the flap rails. The DC10, or KC10, has a underwing engine on each side and one mounted above the fuselage on the tail. CONtrails form due the the moisture % in the air. If you go back to WW2 pictures, you can see them regularly. Tin foil! That's what I told him initially- vapor trails. Also mentioned large scale crop dusting. He wasn't buying it. Apparently I need to "wake up". This wasn't the only bit of tin foilery I received, but the only one I care to address. The rest was even crazier. You can't leave it at that! Spill... m Well if you go to any of the conspiracy theory websites, he had pretty much all of them figured as gospel truth. Kubrick fabricated the moon landing. The 9/11 planes were holograms and WTC 7 was a planned demolition. Reptilians walk among us. There is an alien war going on for our planet. The .gov is run by aliens. Etc etc blah blah.. He is married to a friend of my mom's so I kept my mouth shut for the most part, besides it was kind of entertaining. I think he finally got a little frustrated with me when I rejected the idea that aliens had showed all the ancient civilizations how to build pyramids. It was around that time he walked away and went to talk with someone else. Wow. Sounds only slightly more tolerable than when I had to eat dinner next to a mathematics professor who insisted aerospace engineers should be in jail because passenger airliners aren't equipped with ejection seats. |
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Quoted: Quoted: How is lift generated? Higher pressure under the wing than on top. This dynamic pressure differential can cause contrail formation in super-saturated air. Super-saturated air also makes for persistent contrails. Because these parcels of air can be sporadic in distribution, it is possible for a flight path contrail to be dashed. Think of air layers like waves on the ocean, if the flight path is through the crests of the waves, you get that dashed contrail. Or you see starts and stops. They ARE chemtrails, the chemical is dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide Someday you may try explaining things not in a way that's more complicated than necessary. Try it, see if results change. As if your reply was simple |
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Quoted: When the air is very saturated with moisture, a wing or any other obstruction, that creates lift or a higher velocity due to shape, creates a lower pressure area. When the pressure is lowered in saturated air, water vapor turns into water droplets and they form visible moisture like clouds, contrails, and the vsibe water vapor you see in that video from the engines, wings, and flap screw covers. ( what the video says are nozzles) It is nt uncommon to see water apor contrais turn on and ff as the aircraft transits air that has more and less water in it. Bullets at high velocity (4000 ft/sec) and poor ballistic coefficients can do the same. The Berger 30 grain MEFs at 4100 ft/sec from my A2 do just that . Cool as hell on a damp morning to see a chalk line all the way to the target. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Well if you go to any of the conspiracy theory websites, he had pretty much all of them figured as gospel truth. Kubrick fabricated the moon landing. The 9/11 planes were holograms and WTC 7 was a planned demolition. Reptilians walk among us. There is an alien war going on for our planet. The .gov is run by aliens. Etc etc blah blah.. He is married to a friend of my mom's so I kept my mouth shut for the most part, besides it was kind of entertaining. I think he finally got a little frustrated with me when I rejected the idea that aliens had showed all the ancient civilizations how to build pyramids. It was around that time he walked away and went to talk with someone else. Wow. Sounds only slightly more tolerable than when I had to eat dinner next to a mathematics professor who insisted aerospace engineers should be in jail because passenger airliners aren't equipped with ejection seats. Yeah.  He kept mentioning how many PhD's had come out and said the same shit. I reminded him that for every one there are millions who hadn't. When he went into the aliens/pyramids thing I pointed out that stonehenge had been reconstructed by one man with no electricity, just concrete blocks, levers, pulleys and fulcrums. I could tell he didn't want to think about that.
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I had a guy talk to me for about 10 minutes at the last gun show about all of his theories. He kinda just snuck up to me real shaddy like with his black sunglasses  and starting speaking the truth...
1.) Obama is the next Hitler (I gave him the benefit of the doubt) 2.)Chemtrails 3.) Poisons in the water to control us. He mentioned fluoride. 4.) Concentration camps that are in operation in the U.S 5.) ect.... I told him I would contact my representatives and spread the word
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| My handle on chemistry might be a bit rough, but IIRC, JP8 or jet A fuel is basically kerosene which is a hydrocarbon. So it's got carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Part of the combustion process turns molecules into H2O, water, which condenses in the cold air and pressure at 37,000 ft MSL. You only need to look at your car's tailpipe while it is idling on a cold day. Water will actually drip from it. |
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That is an excellent example of NorCal big city thinking. You know what else NorCal is known for? Look up Humbolt county. |
