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12/20/2012 5:54:19 PM EDT
How butthurt do you think people will be when they paid $60/mag and many hundreds over retail for rifles?

A lot of this is quite comical to me, people run right out create a frenzy which is not necessary.


I remember seeing ad on top of ad of 5.56 ammo for sale for 600-800 well after prices normalized after obama was first elected. And then there were the incessant $900 wasr ads that seemed to hang around for 2-3 years until the seller finally gave up or died.

I gotta say: My preferred shop here in town has left me with some hope for the human race. The owner never raised prices, just sold what he had as customers came in. One of his distributors called while I was there offering a few different rifles for $400 over normal wholesale dealer cost and he told them to shove it! I was really impressed! The guy has sold 70% of all his available inventory in the past 4 days and held fast, never considered gouging and did his customers right. A rare thing in this day and age!
12/20/2012 5:56:16 PM EDT
[#1]
It can't take too long.  People will give up buying when they can't find anything in stock for a month.
12/20/2012 5:57:01 PM EDT
[#2]
As long as no more attacks occur on the 2nd Amendment the prices of mags might go back to what they were last week after about a year
12/20/2012 5:58:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Prediction.  If there is no ban by June 1, 2013, those that held cash will be stacking AR's and Pmags like cordwood in their back yard.
12/20/2012 5:59:10 PM EDT
[#4]
I hardly think a few extra thousand will really matter to most, when some have lost 10's of thousands on their home. At least they will be able to defend themselves.
12/20/2012 5:59:30 PM EDT
[#5]
And if YOU'RE wrong, in a year you'll be paying $125 apiece for Glock mags and Loving it! Seen it before.....
12/20/2012 5:59:33 PM EDT
[#6]
I bet the prices won't go back down to where they were.  This was the next jump in prices.  I bet mags will stabilize at $30 two years from now.  ARs that were $800 will be $1350.

12/20/2012 6:00:19 PM EDT
[#7]
If prices and stock normalize I will buy like I have never bought before. I will not be caught feeling this helpless watching the next panic and wondering if ill ever have a another shot at a certain rifle or some extra mags.
12/20/2012 6:01:41 PM EDT
[#8]
I got a funny feeling about this.



I don't think it's going back to what it was.  The libs and the media have some serious momentum.



Glad I bought early and often.
12/20/2012 6:02:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Hell, at 80 bucks I bet there are some people here who could make them in their garage cheaper than that.
12/20/2012 6:04:08 PM EDT
[#10]
I bought a DPMS 308 for $200 under MSRP and a complete Core 15 M4 for $800. Hardly a bad deal. These were both guns I have wanted for a while and figured I better get them now.
12/20/2012 6:04:24 PM EDT
[#11]
This is the new normal
12/20/2012 6:05:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm waiting it to normalize to start my panic buying.
12/20/2012 6:05:24 PM EDT
[#13]
The ONLY reason I am selling some Pmags right now is because Palmetto's site doubled my order for the "free shipping" five packs that I ordered a couple weeks ago.  I guess I can't be mad at them anymore.
12/20/2012 6:06:50 PM EDT
[#14]
I was pondering buying a Colt 6450, but with mags hard to find or non-existant, I hesitate to buy...............even AK mags are scarce, and that deters me from buying an AK...........might just buy myself a CCW handgun and sit on some cash and wait to see what happens
12/20/2012 6:07:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I bet the prices won't go back down to where they were.  This was the next jump in prices.  I bet mags will stabilize at $30 two years from now.  ARs that were $800 will be $1350.



Everyone said the same thing in '08 and prices ended up dropping even lower than they had been prior.
12/20/2012 6:07:24 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


Prediction.  If there is no ban by June 1, 2013, those that held cash will be stacking AR's and Pmags like cordwood in their back yard.






 
12/20/2012 6:10:10 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm hoping the politicians have been watching what has been going on. Not everyone is buying just to hand them over later.
12/20/2012 6:10:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
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I bet the prices won't go back down to where they were.  This was the next jump in prices.  I bet mags will stabilize at $30 two years from now.  ARs that were $800 will be $1350.



Everyone said the same thing in '08 and prices ended up dropping even lower than they had been prior.


Other than a new guy in office nothing really prompted the '08 frenzy.  This one is event driven.

12/20/2012 6:12:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
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I bet the prices won't go back down to where they were.  This was the next jump in prices.  I bet mags will stabilize at $30 two years from now.  ARs that were $800 will be $1350.



Everyone said the same thing in '08 and prices ended up dropping even lower than they had been prior.


Other than a new guy in office nothing really prompted the '08 frenzy.  This one is event driven.



So?  Unless a ban is implemented prices will drop again.

ETA:  Most manufacturers haven't raised prices, not all dealers have raised prices.  Why would this become the norm?  It's just panic buying.  No ban, the dealers and manufacturers that did raise their prices will be forced to either drop prices back to the same level as those that didn't or go out of business.  Also the glut of people selling all the shit they panic bought and no longer want will force prices even lower.
12/20/2012 6:12:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Prediction.  If there is no ban by June 1, 2013, those that held cash will be stacking AR's and Pmags like cordwood in their back yard.


Or, those that bought in late 2009 after the panic was over and stacked like cordwood are making money on the stuff now and in another year they will have 2 cords of ars and pmags.
12/20/2012 6:12:21 PM EDT
[#21]
You never lose money until you sell.
12/20/2012 6:14:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Bet it will be another 1994 ban but worse.
So nothing will get back to "normal".
12/20/2012 6:16:41 PM EDT
[#23]
This fire is starting to burn out.  If we can avoid any copycats, this will quietly go away.  You don't hear many politicians holding news conferences updating us on the coming ban.  Feinstein introduces her dead assed bill every year.  

If they do push for a ban, I hope they go after everything.  I hope it's a libs left-handed masturbation bill.
12/20/2012 6:16:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Only good thing about the situation is if we make it through this unscathed I think that almost guarantees no new bans. This is the best shot the antigunners got.
12/20/2012 6:19:57 PM EDT
[#25]
If there is no ban prices will settle. Deep breaths
12/20/2012 6:24:24 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Only good thing about the situation is if we make it through this unscathed I think that almost guarantees no new bans. This is the best shot the antigunners got.



Ugh, I never, ever take anything for granted with this White house admin.  With Obama care going through,  Ugh.....  I take NOTHING for granted.

That said, I agree, if we survive this, we are good at least through the next few years........  assuming no other worthless piece #%^$@$%&@# does something stupid.   Its fragile, no doubt it about it.


But yes, if it does return to normal, and I am praying to does, just like 09', there will be a huge vacuum and stuff will be out there, cheap cheap cheap.    Hard to believe but I remember seeing stacks of lowers made on a pallet sometime late '09.  Going no where. Happy dreams....Which I have learned my lesson as I am in a better place $$$ wise now then than.  I will stock up on my parts.
12/20/2012 6:27:54 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
This fire is starting to burn out.  If we can avoid any copycats, this will quietly go away.  You don't hear many politicians holding news conferences updating us on the coming ban.  Feinstein introduces her dead assed bill every year.  

If they do push for a ban, I hope they go after everything.  I hope it's a libs left-handed masturbation bill.


There are millions of young Americans on the same the drugs, raised by the same type of people, with the same lack of values.

It will happen again sooner or later.

I too hope they go after everything and I hope they skip due process--illegitimate authority.
12/20/2012 6:28:35 PM EDT
[#28]
There will be no ban.  They cannot even pass a budget, and after we go over the fiscal fall in Jan, they will be scrambling to fix that mess they made.

The NRA will be stepping up tomorrow, and many of the people who spoke already are doing 180s retracting what they said and side stepping.

No doubt this massacre hurts, I know it does me.  But when it comes down to it Im hoping we get through this.  While I doubt there will be a ban, I bet they will get their way with background checks (deals through FFLs only) and more mental records being fed into the system.  Also wont be surprised we see minimum security requirements for firearms, more liablity if your guns are used in crime / requirements to report stolen.

We will get through this.  I just wish these assholes would have these little angels rest for a week before dancing in their blood to further their agendas.

Relax or at least try to - while maintaining your situational awareness.
12/20/2012 6:39:55 PM EDT
[#29]
whats normal?
12/20/2012 6:52:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
There will be no ban.  They cannot even pass a budget, and after we go over the fiscal fall in Jan, they will be scrambling to fix that mess they made.

The NRA will be stepping up tomorrow, and many of the people who spoke already are doing 180s retracting what they said and side stepping.

No doubt this massacre hurts, I know it does me.  But when it comes down to it Im hoping we get through this.  While I doubt there will be a ban, I bet they will get their way with background checks (deals through FFLs only) and more mental records being fed into the system.  Also wont be surprised we see minimum security requirements for firearms, more liablity if your guns are used in crime / requirements to report stolen.

We will get through this.  I just wish these assholes would have these little angels rest for a week before dancing in their blood to further their agendas.

Relax or at least try to - while maintaining your situational awareness.


How will they force all sales through FFLs?   Over half the guns out there have been sold privately and there is no trail on them whatsoever.
12/20/2012 7:38:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
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There will be no ban.  They cannot even pass a budget, and after we go over the fiscal fall in Jan, they will be scrambling to fix that mess they made.

The NRA will be stepping up tomorrow, and many of the people who spoke already are doing 180s retracting what they said and side stepping.

No doubt this massacre hurts, I know it does me.  But when it comes down to it Im hoping we get through this.  While I doubt there will be a ban, I bet they will get their way with background checks (deals through FFLs only) and more mental records being fed into the system.  Also wont be surprised we see minimum security requirements for firearms, more liablity if your guns are used in crime / requirements to report stolen.

We will get through this.  I just wish these assholes would have these little angels rest for a week before dancing in their blood to further their agendas.

Relax or at least try to - while maintaining your situational awareness.


How will they force all sales through FFLs?   Over half the guns out there have been sold privately and there is no trail on them whatsoever.


Hi, to be clear and I think you know, I am not advocating private sales through FFLs.  With that being said, if gun legislation goes thru I do see them on a prospective basis requiring all sales through an FFL for the background checks, and also registration of handguns (wouldnt be surprised long guns too) akin to what its like in PA for HGs.  No license required to buy a HG in PA, but no private transactions on them they have to go through a dealer, and the deal gets recorded with the State Police.
12/20/2012 7:42:21 PM EDT
[#32]
I got great deals on everything I panic bought that were great deals BEFORE the gouging. Mostly cause i did it the day of, and that sunday night before people starting really opening their mouths.

10/22 - $210
LCR .357 - $460
Radom P64 - $200



Already got in on 30 rounders when AIM was running that sale for $8.50 a pop. Not pmags, but whatever, it's still a steal and a half.
12/20/2012 7:56:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
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There will be no ban.  They cannot even pass a budget, and after we go over the fiscal fall in Jan, they will be scrambling to fix that mess they made.

The NRA will be stepping up tomorrow, and many of the people who spoke already are doing 180s retracting what they said and side stepping.

No doubt this massacre hurts, I know it does me.  But when it comes down to it Im hoping we get through this.  While I doubt there will be a ban, I bet they will get their way with background checks (deals through FFLs only) and more mental records being fed into the system.  Also wont be surprised we see minimum security requirements for firearms, more liablity if your guns are used in crime / requirements to report stolen.

We will get through this.  I just wish these assholes would have these little angels rest for a week before dancing in their blood to further their agendas.

Relax or at least try to - while maintaining your situational awareness.


How will they force all sales through FFLs?   Over half the guns out there have been sold privately and there is no trail on them whatsoever.


Hi, to be clear and I think you know, I am not advocating private sales through FFLs.  With that being said, if gun legislation goes thru I do see them on a prospective basis requiring all sales through an FFL for the background checks, and also registration of handguns (wouldnt be surprised long guns too) akin to what its like in PA for HGs.  No license required to buy a HG in PA, but no private transactions on them they have to go through a dealer, and the deal gets recorded with the State Police.


No, I know you're not promoting that, but how would they enforce it.  There's really no way to track previous FTF sales.
12/20/2012 8:06:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Is this the first time you have seen this happen OP?



It comes and goes, it was the same when BHO got elected the first time.