Posted: 12/17/2012 7:36:56 AM EDT
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Hello ladies and gents!!
Time for me to put my GI Bill to good use and get my MBA. I do, however, have a question: Do potential employers look down on "for-profit" online schools? Specifically, I'm thinking of University of Phoniex and Strayer type of schools. What do employers think about legit universities that run online programs? Are they thought of in the same light as schools like Strayer/UoP? Are they held in higher regards because the degree/course is connected to a real university? |
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Thought about the MBA a few months back. Recruiters told me the University of Phoenix was a joke and not to waste my time.
In my area I could do the Phx for 23 grand, a good local college that's non-accredited for 35 grand or an accredited school for 53 grand. My thinking was the accredited school since if I'm doing it I might as well do it right. |
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I’m an HR guy (hate all ya want) with an MBA and this is my advice:
An MBA is a good thing, more opportunities and more $. MBA's from online schools are looked down upon by just about everyone. Find a local school with an online MBA program. I only visited the campus of my school 3 times, did all my course work online, and received a degree from a "real" school. |
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I’m an HR guy (hate all ya want) with an MBA and this is my advice: An MBA is a good thing, more opportunities and more $. MBA's from online schools are looked down upon by just about everyone. Find a local school with an online MBA program. I only visited the campus of my school 3 times, did all my course work online, and received a degree from a "real" school. This is what I was looking for. I was leaning more towards Strayer as I would be able to go to a class and take one oneline, thus enabling me to get BAH at the zip code of the school and not the online rate. |
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There is a lot of hate for online schools on here. I'm starting Western Governors University after the first of the year. The thing you should do is research, research, research! And talk to your state department for education. Thats what I did and I know all my bases are covered.
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Shop around for price but I wouldnt worry about saving a grand or two. Look more at the "name" and reputation of the schools in the area you wish to job hunt.
Remember an MBA is more and investment than anything else, yes you will learn things but theres alot of marketing in the title. Kinda like trying to sell a DPMS to a Colt guy.... Its the same rifle only not. |
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Thought about the MBA a few months back. Recruiters told me the University of Phoenix was a joke and not to waste my time. In my area I could do the Phx for 23 grand, a good local college that's non-accredited for 35 grand or an accredited school for 53 grand. My thinking was the accredited school since if I'm doing it I might as well do it right. Okay, I'll ask. What is a good non-accredited college? |
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I am currently a student at Fayetteville State University. Anyone who has been to Ft.Bragg has probably driven by it a million times. It's an NC State University, and they offer an online MBA.
Check this out, this is the list of online degrees: http://www.uncfsu.edu/onlineeducation/programs-and-degrees |
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Thought about the MBA a few months back. Recruiters told me the University of Phoenix was a joke and not to waste my time. In my area I could do the Phx for 23 grand, a good local college that's non-accredited for 35 grand or an accredited school for 53 grand. My thinking was the accredited school since if I'm doing it I might as well do it right. Okay, I'll ask. What is a good non-accredited college? Never heard of one. |
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Only goto an acreddited school whos credits will transfer to other schools. Be sure to go to a school that is AACSB accredited. ETA: Also, there are many good schools that are AACSB accredited that have online classes. I am going to attend some at Penn State next year. I already have a grad degree, so I am going for a certificate, a 12 credit hour certificate. It will cost around 11.5K. My employer will pay for it. |
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Quoted: I’m an HR guy (hate all ya want) with an MBA and this is my advice: An MBA is a good thing, more opportunities and more $. MBA's from online schools are looked down upon by just about everyone. Find a local school with an online MBA program. I only visited the campus of my school 3 times, did all my course work online, and received a degree from a "real" school. This is basically what I am doing currently. |
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I’m an HR guy (hate all ya want) with an MBA and this is my advice: An MBA is a good thing, more opportunities and more $. MBA's from online schools are looked down upon by just about everyone. Find a local school with an online MBA program. I only visited the campus of my school 3 times, did all my course work online, and received a degree from a "real" school. This is almost exactly what I would expect for the view of online degrees. If the degree is from a "real school" it will be viewed more favorably. I see the best utility for online degrees for people with a shit-ton of experience and working against a glass ceiling that would be promoted if not for the lack of degree. There really is a small legitimate market. The rest seems like people fooling themselves that the online degree will be just as good as the MBA from Harvard or Stanford or Wharton. |
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I can only speak as an exec who has worked at leading consulting firms in major markets, but here's my 2 cents:
A top 10 school is generally worth the money. A top 20 school is often, but not always, worth it if the school has a great alumni base and recognition. Top 50 may be worth it IF they pay your way (scholarships or other awards, TA positions, etc), or if it is the only way to open a major door or career change for you for which you are willing to take the economic loss involved in getting the degree. Not ranked or otherwise some spiffy school that people don't immediately recognize: Just no. Don't walk away slowly - Run the other way before the stink gets on you. Remember that aside from top 10 and super well known schools the value of your degree generally decreases with geographic distance - So a small non-ranked school in New York or Texas is worth almost nothing by the time you get to the opposite coast - Not as low as Phoenix or another junk or "distance learning program", but darn little. Maybe being able to move doesn't matter to you, but lack of market for your degree should be a component of your valuation analysis before you jump in. Also, please don't go to an MBA without at least 2 years business or military management experience. I have kicked at least a half dozen kids off my teams and now just send them straight back to the bench without a second look - Kids who arrived with a fantasmic back-to-back academic pedigrees and zero work experience and "infinite promise" - Business school is designed to add skills/tools to an experienced person who already has context, these kids arrive with book tools, no context, think leadership is being "brave" enough to complain about a bad grade, and generally screw up something significant. |
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I've worked with people from Penn State, Princeton, Yale, etc, before. Sharp folks. I was in school working on my grad degree with a girl that went to Harvard. She said the connections she made were just as important as the education. OP, were you one of the smart ones in undergrad? In grad school, you'll be a face in the crowd of all smart people. I felt like a genius in undergrad, realized there were a lot of people smarter than me in grad school.
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I can only speak as an exec who has worked at leading consulting firms in major markets, but here's my 2 cents: A top 10 school is generally worth the money. A top 20 school is often, but not always, worth it if the school has a great alumni base and recognition. Top 50 may be worth it IF they pay your way (scholarships or other awards, TA positions, etc), or if it is the only way to open a major door or career change for you for which you are willing to take the economic loss involved in getting the degree. Not ranked or otherwise some spiffy school that people don't immediately recognize: Just no. Don't walk away slowly - Run the other way before the stink gets on you. Remember that aside from top 10 and super well known schools the value of your degree generally decreases with geographic distance - So a small non-ranked school in New York or Texas is worth almost nothing by the time you get to the opposite coast - Not as low as Phoenix or another junk or "distance learning program", but darn little. Maybe being able to move doesn't matter to you, but lack of market for your degree should be a component of your valuation analysis before you jump in. Also, please don't go to an MBA without at least 2 years business or military management experience. I have kicked at least a half dozen kids off my teams and now just send them straight back to the bench without a second look - Kids who arrived with a fantasmic back-to-back academic pedigrees and zero work experience and "infinite promise" - Business school is designed to add skills/tools to an experienced person who already has context, these kids arrive with book tools, no context, think leadership is being "brave" enough to complain about a bad grade, and generally screw up something significant. |