[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Bought My First Mac (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/8/2012 9:30:34 PM EDT
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Every Apple product that I have bought has been bullshit free for the most part.
The shit just works...and it lasts a long time. Ipod...6 years later and cranking away. Iphone...2 years in an otter box...dropped, kicked, beaten...still going just fine. Ipad2..had it for over a year...and it just keeps going...my 6 year old girl loves it. And now I own a Macbook Pro...13" without the retina display...but I did opt for the 8 gig of memory and the i7 processor... I figure in the long run it will be cheaper than a Windows laptop as it will most likely last a lot longer.. Every Windows laptop that I have owned is begging for a bullet to the motherboard after two years of use. Besides, I swore off Windows last year in favor of Ubuntu at home... Now I'm installing Ubuntu in Virtual Box on the Mac 
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Didja get the 3 year warranty? You still can, and I would. Yeah..it's only $188 with .mil discount.... How much for the whole package including tax and apple care?? $1682.22 including tax and .mil discount 13" with 750 gig HD, 8 Gig RAM, 2.9Ghz Core i7 Processor.. |
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Didja get the 3 year warranty? You still can, and I would. Yeah..it's only $188 with .mil discount.... How much for the whole package including tax and apple care?? $1682.22 including tax and .mil discount 13" with 750 gig HD, 8 Gig RAM, 2.9Ghz Core i7 Processor.. Not Bad. 
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Didja get the 3 year warranty? You still can, and I would. Yeah..it's only $188 with .mil discount.... How much for the whole package including tax and apple care?? $1682.22 including tax and .mil discount 13" with 750 gig HD, 8 Gig RAM, 2.9Ghz Core i7 Processor.. Not Bad.
It's a bit spendy for my tastes... But I am highly impressed so far with the quality of the hardware and the OS...love the touchpad. I think it's well worth the money. |
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Apple makes high quality products but so do PC companies. Just cause you bought a POS PC doesn't mean PCs are unreliable POS.
From time to time, I will overhear students talking about how they just got a new mac and how their PC they had before (Acer) was a POS. Yeah no shit. You are comparing a $300 POS laptop to a $1600 Mac. What do you expect. Macs are good but they are expensive and certainly have a premium. Reliable Window PCs with the same specs can be had for less than half of what a comparable Mac is priced at and you can do more with them. I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. |
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Apple makes high quality products but so do PC companies. Just cause you bought a POS PC doesn't mean PCs are unreliable POS. From time to time, I will overhear students talking about how they just got a new mac and how their PC they had before (Acer) was a POS. Yeah no shit. You are comparing a $300 POS laptop to a $1600 Mac. What do you expect. Macs are good but they are expensive and certainly have a premium. Reliable Window PCs with the same specs can be had for less than half of what a comparable Mac is priced at and you can do more with them. I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. A decent Windows laptop (not a cheapy) will easily cost over $1K Don't believe me...Go look at the Dell website. I have a Dell Latitude for work... This is supposed to be a decent laptop...it's OK...but nowhere near the quality of the Mac. And after roughly 2 years, the screen hinges are giving out...and the keyboard is starting give out. As typical, Windows is starting to get a bit buggy... I use the living shit out of my laptops though... Mac OSX is much nicer than Windows 7 or Ubuntu IMHO. Safari is very nice in Windows...and even better on a Mac with the touchpad. Did I mention the touchpad? I freaking love it....after an evening with it, I'm hooked 
The power supply cord has a magnet (A nice touch...no more busted power supply connector). The battery is built in, so it won't fall out on my lap (as it does at times with my Dell). The case is aluminum...it's slim and feels very durable.. The Keyboard is backlit...which is great for dimly lit situations (Yes, you can get a Windows laptop with this option). It's intuitive and pleasure to use... Overall, for a decent laptop, I think it's a good buy. |
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As soon as we complete our move, I'm getting rid of my 24" iMac and getting a refurbished 17" MacBook Pro. After years of using a laptop, I thought it would be cool to have a desktop. Nope. I miss the freedom of being able to carry my computer with me to any room in the house. Being chained to my desk sucks. (Live and learn, I guess.)
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We finally just retired my old G4 iBook that I bought in December 2008. My oldest daughter was using it. I bought my wife a 13" MacBook Pro and she handed her white 13" MacBook down to the kid. I'm going to reformat the iBook and reinstall Tiger, then my wife will take it into her classroom. She teaches in an elementary school in North Philly and an 8 year old computer is better than none. I work in engineering for a large cable company and almost all of the engineers in my dept. and several others have gone to MacBook Pros. OS X is desktop UNIX that can run MS Office and doesn't require constant tweaking like Linux. IME, Macs are not completely trouble free, but in the hands of regular users are much less prone to problems than Windows machines. The build quality is outstanding and the OS is elegant. MS narrowed the gap between OS X and Windows with Windows 7, which I like a lot and I do have it on a couple of PCs for my own use. One thing I've noticed is that both Windows machines and Macs work much better when they are not loaded down with "management" tools installed by IT departments. IMO these tools are the cause of a lot a problems that Windows users experience in the workplace. When similar tools are installed on Macs they perform similarly badly.
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The only people that will make flat statements like "Windows/PC's are junk and aren't reliable" are the same people that will call you a hipster that overpaid for a trendy POS.
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I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. |
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Apple makes high quality products but so do PC companies. Just cause you bought a POS PC doesn't mean PCs are unreliable POS. From time to time, I will overhear students talking about how they just got a new mac and how their PC they had before (Acer) was a POS. Yeah no shit. You are comparing a $300 POS laptop to a $1600 Mac. What do you expect. Macs are good but they are expensive and certainly have a premium. Reliable Window PCs with the same specs can be had for less than half of what a comparable Mac is priced at and you can do more with them. I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. A decent Windows laptop (not a cheapy) will easily cost over $1K Don't believe me...Go look at the Dell website. I have a Dell Latitude for work... This is supposed to be a decent laptop...it's OK...but nowhere near the quality of the Mac. And after roughly 2 years, the screen hinges are giving out...and the keyboard is starting give out. As typical, Windows is starting to get a bit buggy... I use the living shit out of my laptops though... Mac OSX is much nicer than Windows 7 or Ubuntu IMHO. Safari is very nice in Windows...and even better on a Mac with the touchpad. Did I mention the touchpad? I freaking love it....after an evening with it, I'm hooked
The power supply cord has a magnet (A nice touch...no more busted power supply connector). The battery is built in, so it won't fall out on my lap (as it does at times with my Dell). The case is aluminum...it's slim and feels very durable.. The Keyboard is backlit...which is great for dimly lit situations (Yes, you can get a Windows laptop with this option). It's intuitive and pleasure to use... Overall, for a decent laptop, I think it's a good buy. Not true. |
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We finally just retired my old G4 iBook that I bought in December 2008. My oldest daughter was using it. I bought my wife a 13" MacBook Pro and she handed her white 13" MacBook down to the kid. I'm going to reformat the iBook and reinstall Tiger, then my wife will take it into her classroom. She teaches in an elementary school in North Philly and an 8 year old computer is better than none. I work in engineering for a large cable company and almost all of the engineers in my dept. and several others have gone to MacBook Pros. OS X is desktop UNIX that can run MS Office and doesn't require constant tweaking like Linux. IME, Macs are not completely trouble free, but in the hands of regular users are much less prone to problems than Windows machines. The build quality is outstanding and the OS is elegant. MS narrowed the gap between OS X and Windows with Windows 7, which I like a lot and I do have it on a couple of PCs for my own use. One thing I've noticed is that both Windows machines and Macs work much better when they are not loaded down with "management" tools installed by IT departments. IMO these tools are the cause of a lot a problems that Windows users experience in the workplace. When similar tools are installed on Macs they perform similarly badly. I do LAN/WAN and wireless for a living. Many of my coworkers and engineers that I deal with have switched over to Macs. GNS3 and virtual box run very nicely on the Mac. So far, I like OSX over Ubuntu. Windows 7 is an improvement over XP...but when it shit the bed on my ASUS laptop (that I paid over $700 for) I nuked it and loaded Ubuntu. Agreed, corporate IT "management" tools screw a lot of stuff up. |
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Apple makes high quality products but so do PC companies. Just cause you bought a POS PC doesn't mean PCs are unreliable POS. From time to time, I will overhear students talking about how they just got a new mac and how their PC they had before (Acer) was a POS. Yeah no shit. You are comparing a $300 POS laptop to a $1600 Mac. What do you expect. Macs are good but they are expensive and certainly have a premium. Reliable Window PCs with the same specs can be had for less than half of what a comparable Mac is priced at and you can do more with them. I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. A decent Windows laptop (not a cheapy) will easily cost over $1K Don't believe me...Go look at the Dell website. I have a Dell Latitude for work... This is supposed to be a decent laptop...it's OK...but nowhere near the quality of the Mac. And after roughly 2 years, the screen hinges are giving out...and the keyboard is starting give out. As typical, Windows is starting to get a bit buggy... I use the living shit out of my laptops though... Mac OSX is much nicer than Windows 7 or Ubuntu IMHO. Safari is very nice in Windows...and even better on a Mac with the touchpad. Did I mention the touchpad? I freaking love it....after an evening with it, I'm hooked
The power supply cord has a magnet (A nice touch...no more busted power supply connector). The battery is built in, so it won't fall out on my lap (as it does at times with my Dell). The case is aluminum...it's slim and feels very durable.. The Keyboard is backlit...which is great for dimly lit situations (Yes, you can get a Windows laptop with this option). It's intuitive and pleasure to use... Overall, for a decent laptop, I think it's a good buy. Not even close. If you want a premium laptop (aluminum chassis, backlit keyboard, etc.) you can get a Sony Vaio with the same specs for $899. In fact I have a Sony Vaio that I got this year that retails for $1200. Guess what, after I took advantage of their promotions and sold my Alienware laptop that I bought 2 years ago for $630 (Black Friday deal), that Sony laptop ended up costing me less than $500 dollars. We are talking i7 Quad core, Nividia GT640MLE with 2GB VRAM, 8GB RAM, 1080P IPS screen, Magnesium alloy frame, backlit keyboard, HD Web cam, etc.). Hell, I have a 7-8 year old Toshiba laptop that was bought new on Black Friday for $250 and that thing still works and guess what, hinges aren't broken. In fact, I've never owned a laptop that had it's hinges broken. But again, I don't buy junk PCs and then bitch about how bad PCs are when they shit themselves. Pay the extra $50, don't buy Acer, Compaq, Gateway We just got another Dell that has the same specs as the baseline MacBook Pro for around $450 after promotions. Very sturdy, feels like one piece. Try getting a Mac that cheap. Macs are great computers, but anyone who thinks they don't have a premium or thinks PCs = junk needs to have their head checked out |
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My next phone will be an iPhone 5. No real reason, just trying something different, and Apple seems to have no problem selling their shit so they must be doing something right. I just got an iPhone 5 yesterday. I like it a lot, after 3 years with android some things will take some getting used to, it's great so far 
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My next phone will be an iPhone 5. No real reason, just trying something different, and Apple seems to have no problem selling their shit so they must be doing something right. I just got an iPhone 5 yesterday. I like it a lot, after 3 years with android some things will take some getting used to, it's great so far My next phone will be iPhone 5 as well or a Windows 8 phone. I will not buy another Android. It's a shitty O.S. and reminds me of Linux. I used to be all for Google but they are a bunch of libtards and don't respect your privacy at all. At least Microsoft does and hell, Microsoft even donated to the NRA |
| My Toshiba laptop is 6.5 years old and I'm getting ready to kick it down to the wife and upgrade. The Apple koolaid is very very tempting as I'm going to be upgrading my 3GS phone to a 5 next month. I was in the store the other day and the IPAD with a keyboard is probably the way I'll go. Anybody else go from a laptop to a IPAD? 90% of the use is going to be business related. |
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My Toshiba laptop is 6.5 years old and I'm getting ready to kick it down to the wife and upgrade. The Apple koolaid is very very tempting as I'm going to be upgrading my 3GS phone to a 5 next month. I was in the store the other day and the IPAD with a keyboard is probably the way I'll go. Anybody else go from a laptop to a IPAD? 90% of the use is going to be business related. The iPad doesn't replace a laptop, at least right now. The Microsoft Surface and Surface Pro are the closest things to doing that. iPad keyboard support is done via the application instead of the operating system. There have certainly been those who have switched over to primarily using an iPad, but keep in mind you will have to make sacrifices. I would recommend against it, but if you really want to go that route, make a list of all the things you do on the computer and then see if you could do that on the iPad. Keep in mind the iPad doesn't have an SD card slot or USB port so you can't expand the memory and the only way to get files on the device is through wireless transactions |
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I came here expecting this.   Something is wrong with your Mac. They are supposed to look like this:
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Apple makes high quality products but so do PC companies. Just cause you bought a POS PC doesn't mean PCs are unreliable POS. From time to time, I will overhear students talking about how they just got a new mac and how their PC they had before (Acer) was a POS. Yeah no shit. You are comparing a $300 POS laptop to a $1600 Mac. What do you expect. Macs are good but they are expensive and certainly have a premium. Reliable Window PCs with the same specs can be had for less than half of what a comparable Mac is priced at and you can do more with them. I'm happy you like your Mac but Windows/PCs aren't junk and are just as reliable as any Mac out there. A decent Windows laptop (not a cheapy) will easily cost over $1K Don't believe me...Go look at the Dell website. I have a Dell Latitude for work... This is supposed to be a decent laptop...it's OK...but nowhere near the quality of the Mac. And after roughly 2 years, the screen hinges are giving out...and the keyboard is starting give out. As typical, Windows is starting to get a bit buggy... I use the living shit out of my laptops though... Mac OSX is much nicer than Windows 7 or Ubuntu IMHO. Safari is very nice in Windows...and even better on a Mac with the touchpad. Did I mention the touchpad? I freaking love it....after an evening with it, I'm hooked
The power supply cord has a magnet (A nice touch...no more busted power supply connector). The battery is built in, so it won't fall out on my lap (as it does at times with my Dell). The case is aluminum...it's slim and feels very durable.. The Keyboard is backlit...which is great for dimly lit situations (Yes, you can get a Windows laptop with this option). It's intuitive and pleasure to use... Overall, for a decent laptop, I think it's a good buy. Not even close. If you want a premium laptop (aluminum chassis, backlit keyboard, etc.) you can get a Sony Vaio with the same specs for $899. In fact I have a Sony Vaio that I got this year that retails for $1200. Guess what, after I took advantage of their promotions and sold my Alienware laptop that I bought 2 years ago for $630 (Black Friday deal), that Sony laptop ended up costing me less than $500 dollars. We are talking i7 Quad core, Nividia GT640MLE with 2GB VRAM, 8GB RAM, 1080P IPS screen, Magnesium alloy frame, backlit keyboard, HD Web cam, etc.). Hell, I have a 7-8 year old Toshiba laptop that was bought new on Black Friday for $250 and that thing still works and guess what, hinges aren't broken. In fact, I've never owned a laptop that had it's hinges broken. But again, I don't buy junk PCs and then bitch about how bad PCs are when they shit themselves. Pay the extra $50, don't buy Acer, Compaq, Gateway We just got another Dell that has the same specs as the baseline MacBook Pro for around $450 after promotions. Very sturdy, feels like one piece. Try getting a Mac that cheap. Macs are great computers, but anyone who thinks they don't have a premium or thinks PCs = junk needs to have their head checked out Agreed, certain brands such as HP/Compaq, Gateway (they used to be really good long ago) and certain no name ones are total shit. I've had multiple Toshiba Satellites, Sony Vaio, and an ASUS (Still breathing as a Ubuntu box). For work, I have had an MPC (total piece of shit), and am on my second Dell Lattitude (two years and it's starting to get noticeably old). The Toshiba Toughbook that I have is still kicking after 5 years..great hardware...but very clunky. I use the living shit out of my laptops. First thing that goes is the screen hinges, followed by the battery...the drives may or may not shit the bed... I've had more than one power connector fail as well. Been a PC fanboy since the early 1980's...thought Id never own a Mac. But I decided to come over to the darkside this time around and try something different. My iPod, iPhone, and iPad are all working great long after I first got them. So far, i am impressed by the Mac..it's not the cheapest thing in the world...but I'm quite impressed with it. |
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I love these threads "they just work" bull shit. If you paid the same price for a MS PC type it would just work as well. or you could buy multiple 600 dollar laptops with the same or better specs(not including retina display). The logic is flawed.
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Agreed, certain brands such as HP/Compaq, Gateway (they used to be really good long ago) and certain no name ones are total shit. I've had multiple Toshiba Satellites, Sony Vaio, and an ASUS (Still breathing as a Ubuntu box). For work, I have had an MPC (total piece of shit), and am on my second Dell Lattitude (two years and it's starting to get noticeably old). The Toshiba Toughbook that I have is still kicking after 5 years..great hardware...but very clunky. I use the living shit out of my laptops. First thing that goes is the screen hinges, followed by the battery...the drives may or may not shit the bed... I've had more than one power connector fail as well. Been a PC fanboy since the early 1980's...thought Id never own a Mac. But I decided to come over to the darkside this time around and try something different. My iPod, iPhone, and iPad are all working great long after I first got them. So far, i am impressed by the Mac..it's not the cheapest thing in the world...but I'm quite impressed with it. I'm have had the opposite experience. PC hardware has rarely failed me (one bad HDD and a bad PSU after years of hard use, between laptops and desktops). I have had inverter, optical drive, and logic board failures on a couple of MacBooks. I also have two friends who have had their optical drives fail, one with a logic board failure, and one with an inverter on the way out. In short, everyone I know has had hardware failure, all within a few years of purchase. Furthermore, system freeze does happen on Macs, and a hard reboot is not a unicorn. I do prefer the ergonomics of MacBooks to PC-based laptops. I can't stand the functionality of touch-pads on PCs. They also run the software I use, with an OS that I like (although I don't find it to be leaps and bounds beyond Win7). I haven't written off Macs yet. Based on my experience, though, their stellar reputation and fanboys are oft rooted more in perception than reality. |
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Also just a note about system failures at work. We have around 60 employees with only 4 MS PC based users 1 user (me) has both a PC HP and a Mac Mini.
1 HP laptop had a HDD drive failure. 17 27" Imac have been recalled all going back to Apple 3 Mac Minis with hard drive falures 5 MacBook Pros with logic board issues (1 being sent back 3, those 3 times are not counted in first value.) 1 11" macBook Air was replaced 4 times in 3 months then replaced by apple with a 13" macBook pro on request. If you do not include those 17 Imacs not a bad failure rate. |
Sony Vaio... 
Now truth be told, I haven't used one in at least 5 years, but man... They were some overpriced, under-engineered, look good, work bad, shitty fucking machines. They defined everything that was wrong with proprietary PC hardware, and ran neck and neck with Apple for promoting nonstandard "standards" that, by dint of their acceptance on that platform, became the rest of the industry's last choice for whatever component was in question. The best part was that the Sony drivers were nearly the worst out there when they came out the door, and they never updated 'em worth a damn. It was like having a Mac, but without any of the good bits like the OS, the lack of OEM bloatware, and the longevity. I can only imagine they survived as a computer company entirely on the strength of a generation of technophobic now fifty-somethings who last fully understood a technological device when they rocked a cassette walkman, and figured they'd stick with the company that did 'em right back then. 
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