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11/13/2012 7:17:58 AM EDT
How much of an effect did partisan redistricting have on this year's elections?

Should redistricting be a partisan process?
11/13/2012 7:23:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Both sides do it when they are in power.



It solidified the GOP in Alabama this year, for example.




Should be done by a random bunch of 8th graders in a geography classroom with no adult supervision as the outcome would likely be much more fair and representative.






11/13/2012 7:24:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Allen West
11/13/2012 7:26:43 AM EDT
[#3]
We possibly have one of the worst in the nation.  Behold Bobby Scott's district:






 
11/13/2012 7:27:38 AM EDT
[#4]
Just look at the maps and you can see who jacked up it is. the boundaries should follow roads and be in shapes that you would see in geometry class.

Thanks to Gerrymandering we have wonderful Sheila Jackass Lee in houston for like 20 years.



ETA:  added pic.  basically they threw every strong minority area into her district.
11/13/2012 7:29:33 AM EDT
[#5]
In Iowa redistricting is done by the non-partisan Legislative Servies Bureau.  They do it strictly by numbers, and never split counties.  The legislature votes yes or no, but cannot change it.  If its voted down LSA does another one.  After the thrid vote their plan goes into effect.  As a result, Iowa's districts are very straright forward and easy to follow.  

Due to population decline we lost one of our reps, going to four instead of five.  The two eastern Iowa districts are safely democratic and it had no real effect there.  In western Iowa we had one very conservative rep, one conservative rep and one moderate democrat.  The two reps ended up in the same district but one simply moved to the democrat's district, and won.  

The process works amazingly well.  Even on the state level they try to keep districts as compact as possible, using existing political boundary lines to the maximum extent.
11/13/2012 7:31:11 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


Just look at the maps and you can see who jacked up it is. the boundaries should follow roads and be in shapes that you would see in geometry class.



Thanks to Gerrymandering we have wonderful Sheila Jackass Lee in houston for like 20 years.
Here is a GOP member district
She represents two of the wealthiest suburbs in TN, Germantown and Brentwood

They have NOTHING in common culturally or geographically.  

It is just a collection of employed folks that will vote R

Pure power play.

Both sides do it.













 
11/13/2012 8:11:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
In Iowa redistricting is done by the non-partisan Legislative Servies Bureau.  They do it strictly by numbers, and never split counties.  The legislature votes yes or no, but cannot change it.  If its voted down LSA does another one.  After the thrid vote their plan goes into effect.  As a result, Iowa's districts are very straright forward and easy to follow.  

Due to population decline we lost one of our reps, going to four instead of five.  The two eastern Iowa districts are safely democratic and it had no real effect there.  In western Iowa we had one very conservative rep, one conservative rep and one moderate democrat.  The two reps ended up in the same district but one simply moved to the democrat's district, and won.  

The process works amazingly well.  Even on the state level they try to keep districts as compact as possible, using existing political boundary lines to the maximum extent.


That is the way to do it
11/13/2012 10:31:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Short answer?

It allowed the GOP to keep the House.



More complicated answer?

At the time of redistricting after the census, most states were in the control of the Republicans. The new districts reflect this. If you add all the votes for all the house seats, there were more Democratic votes than Republican ones.

Don't kid yourselves, this election was worse than it looks.
11/13/2012 10:33:42 AM EDT
[#9]
They're not as bad as they used to be. This one was struck down eventually. It followed the river to make it majority black.






 
11/13/2012 11:06:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Gerrymandering has effectively killed local politics in many states.  Both sides support it of course, because it makes campaigning cheaper and safer, particularly for incumbents.  Given the way Congress handles seniority, it's pretty important (to the parties) for 'key' congresscritters to not have to worry about re-election.   Most really brutal state campaigns mysteriously coincide with redistricting.
11/13/2012 11:29:45 AM EDT
[#11]
I think its one of the most under recognized problems of our system.  Both sides do it, and both sides have abused the shit out of it.
11/13/2012 2:47:24 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I think its one of the most under recognized problems of our system.  Both sides do it, and both sides have abused the shit out of it.


Agreed
11/13/2012 2:53:46 PM EDT
[#13]
It seems to protect the incumbents regardless of party more than anything.
11/13/2012 2:54:52 PM EDT
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11/13/2012 3:05:43 PM EDT
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