Posted: 11/5/2012 3:52:39 AM EDT
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.?
And as a side note: Is it possible for Obama to create a new AWB via executive order? Thanks! |
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.? Technically the lower had to be in a banned configuration before the ban started. The date of manufacture didn't matter, so a stripped lower that hadn't been assembled before the ban started wasn't a "pre ban" receiver. And as a side note: Is it possible for Obama to create a new AWB via executive order?
Thanks! Maybe...probably...who knows? |
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What happened when you needed to replace the barrel?
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.? Technically the lower had to be in a banned configuration before the ban started. The date of manufacture didn't matter, so a stripped lower that hadn't been assembled before the ban started wasn't a "pre ban" receiver. |
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.? Technically the lower had to be in a banned configuration before the ban started. The date of manufacture didn't matter, so a stripped lower that hadn't been assembled before the ban started wasn't a "pre ban" receiver. In that case, the lower was already "preban" so you were good to go. THere were stripped lowers sold on the EE that I saw that had been assembled as "evil" guns at the time, and then stripped after the ban and sold. It was based on the configuration of the rifle at the time of the ban, not any changes after that. |
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.? Technically the lower had to be in a banned configuration before the ban started. The date of manufacture didn't matter, so a stripped lower that hadn't been assembled before the ban started wasn't a "pre ban" receiver. You assume that anyone actually shoots enough to replace a barrel......but not an issue. The receiver was the "controlling" part. |
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IIRCC, there was a lot of confusion over whether the lower could be stripped and sold. I think there may have even been a letter from ATF saying that you could not do that. That it had to remain in pre-ban config or it lost it's status.
Did anyone care or did anyone get busted for it? No. People argued a lot about it though but generally everyone used the date of manufacture of the lower to determine pre-ban status. There were plenty of arguments here about it during the ban. Olympic Arms had all their records burned in a fire so there was no way to prove which of their lowers had ever been assembled before the ban. |
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Quoted: And as a side note: Is it possible for Obama to create a new AWB via executive order? Thanks! No, at least for domestically-produced firearms. Congress would have to pass legislation. George H. W. Bush did sign an executive order in 1989 that banned importation of foreign-made assault weapons like HK-91/94's. |
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How did the previous ban work? Did a person merely have to own an AR15 lower, for example - and then he could complete it later? Or did he also need to have the pistol grip, collapsing stock, threaded barrel, etc.? Technically the lower had to be in a banned configuration before the ban started. The date of manufacture didn't matter, so a stripped lower that hadn't been assembled before the ban started wasn't a "pre ban" receiver. Here's something to consider: I spent a lot of time shooting pre-ban ARs during the ban. I never ONCE had anyone want to look into the legality of any of them. In fact, I don't personally know anyone who did. Further point of fact, I don't know a single cop who would have known how to check. No, Obama can't implement a stand alone executive order initiating a ban. Two questions for you, now. How many barrels have you shot out in your lifetime and how old are you? |
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And as a side note: Is it possible for Obama to create a new AWB via executive order? Thanks! No, at least for domestically-produced firearms. Congress would have to pass legislation. George H. W. Bush did sign an executive order in 1989 that banned importation of foreign-made assault weapons like HK-91/94's. IBLG |