[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Yotes. (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/10/2012 4:43:53 PM EDT
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Last night my sister noticed her cat had been outside way longer than usual. She went out to look for him and saw a coyote in the yard.(first time she's seen one there)
As of yet, the cat hasn't surfaced, and she's crying her freaking eyes out. I would like to exact some vengeance, AND eliminate the threat to her remaining cat. I cant really shoot there due to the proximity of the neighbors, and gunshots at night here in liberal RI, will likely get me thrown in jail. I'm no good with a bow, so I'm thinking of a .22 with subs. Any .22 ammo suggestions for a quick ,clean , QUIET, kill? I'm still hoping the cat is stuck up a tree, too scared to come down, but I guess it's been 24 hours, or so, so I won't get my hopes up. |
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I am not sure how effective a sub 22 will be. I am probably wrong, and if I am someone will be by soon to let us all know. I would shot it with your carry pistol and then call the police and tell them you got out of your vehicle and it charged you (not typical behavior of a coyote but it has happened) and you had to protect yourself. This is assuming RI is a somewhat reasonable state.
OR don't call them if they show up tell them that. |
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I can't use the AR in her neighborhood, can't carry a pistol in RI, and a trap could get her remaining cat. It's a .22 or nothing...
If it's only going to be 1 shot, maybe I don't need a sub round.... What's the baddest .22 lr ammo right now? I haven't played with my .22 in years. Back when I did, I liked the CCI Stingers. Anybody? |
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If your .22 will shoot them, the Aguila 60 grain rounds work wonders. Else, the CCI quiet-22 loads are great.
With gunshots in an urban area....if you crack off one, everyone's thought will be 'was that a gunshot'? 2nd one would get some attention. Just saying is all.... 
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I feel for you.
I have crow issues but due to where I live shooting them is a no go. BTW: Sub Sonic .22 are very quiet. Shoot out an open window and from the middle of the room. When the critter drops, close the window and act like nothing happened. This is of course the thing to do if it was legal which it isn't. Ahem. 
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I too like Stingers, but .22 rimfire, (esp sub sonics) are weak medicine for a canine.
Too much risk to make an shot that may be outside the law. Trap (live trap costs about $50, way less than a lawyer) and if you get the wrong critter, no harm done. Poison is an option. Since you are willing to sit to wait to shoot it, then sit on the bait. If the wrong critter comes to the bait just shoo it off. Why risk trouble? Is animal control not an option? |
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Maybe this in a good Ruger 10/22.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/rimfire-ammunition/quiet-22.html FEATURES & BENEFITS Ultra-quiet plinking round in 22-caliber LR rifles 75% reduction in perceived noise of standard velocity .22 LR Standard CCI .22 LR case Excellent accuracy and low velocity (710 feet per second) Better performance than an air rifle with similar noise levels No hearing protection required Great for backyard plinking and youth shooting Ideal for legal shooting areas where noise may be a concern 68 Db @ shooters ear These cartridges may be used in semi-automatic firearms, however manual cycling of the action may be required. The last line would be the only issue. otherwise, if its as quiet as an air soft rifle, you could probably get off quite a few shots IF, it cycles the action. Multiple hits might bring one down. |
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Coyotes are tough as hell.They can take a huge amount of damage and still run off.Please don't use a rimfire. I'm really not concerned about causing a slow painful death in THIS case. While I realize the yote is just "being a yote", my sister is devastated, and she DOES have another cat... I want the thing dead, or too scared to come back around. This could all be academic, however, like I said, she loves animals, so much, she might not let me do it, and upon further thought, I've got a buddy who's great with a bow. I think he'd jump at the chance..... |
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Live trap? Granted you'll probaly catch EVERY cat or dog in the neighborhood but maybe you'll get lucky one night.
If you do catch a yote take it out to the wastelands and either set it free or put a bullet in it's head. Although there is no honor in killing something in a cage. |
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Ummm you DO realize this isnt a one time thing, right? As in, one yote means a pack is likely around. Sometimes they arrive in packs, sometimes a loner. I had one hanging around my house, a big animal that I thought was a yellow GSD the first time I saw him, even telling it to "Git" and throwing a stick at it until I realized it was a goddamn coyote when it turned broadside. I was putting a bloody deer meat steak on the grill and it wouldn't leave. Then one night I heard my cat moaning and growling and when I looked out the patio door there was this big apex predator standing on the deck with tongue lolling. I ran upstairs and put a mag light on it and popped it with a .22 as it crossed the yard. It didn't drop but it vanished in a flash and didn't return. |
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Quoted: Last night my sister noticed her cat had been outside way longer than usual. She went out to look for him and saw a coyote in the yard.(first time she's seen one there) As of yet, the cat hasn't surfaced, and she's crying her freaking eyes out. I would like to exact some vengeance, AND eliminate the threat to her remaining cat. I cant really shoot there due to the proximity of the neighbors, and gunshots at night here in liberal RI, will likely get me thrown in jail. I'm no good with a bow, so I'm thinking of a .22 with subs. Any .22 ammo suggestions for a quick ,clean , QUIET, kill? I'm still hoping the cat is stuck up a tree, too scared to come down, but I guess it's been 24 hours, or so, so I won't get my hopes up. Your problem is that you put your cats outside, unsupervised. If you do that, sometimes they die. More often than not, they just wander around doing things they shouldnt' be doing, like going in OTHER people's yards. |
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Live trap? Granted you'll probaly catch EVERY cat or dog in the neighborhood but maybe you'll get lucky one night. If you do catch a yote take it out to the wastelands and either set it free or put a bullet in it's head. Although there is no honor in killing something in a cage. As a former trapper I can tell you a yote won't go into a live box trap. They have to be able to circle and check the bait out from all different angles and need an escape route. A leg hold trap would turn into a disaster when it catches a neighbor's dog who will scream bloody murder. Then in the chaos as you somehow are trying to get this panic stricken, screaming animal out of the trap it will bite the fuck out of you. After the neighbors are awakened and join in to throw a blanket on it and someone releases the spring on it's broken foot it will run home and you'll face animal cruelty charges and a big vet bill. Then you'll be the villiage idiot come daylight. A coyote will scream and snarl enough to wake the neighbors, believe me, then what? |
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Last night my sister noticed her cat had been outside way longer than usual. She went out to look for him and saw a coyote in the yard.(first time she's seen one there) As of yet, the cat hasn't surfaced, and she's crying her freaking eyes out. I would like to exact some vengeance, AND eliminate the threat to her remaining cat. I cant really shoot there due to the proximity of the neighbors, and gunshots at night here in liberal RI, will likely get me thrown in jail. I'm no good with a bow, so I'm thinking of a .22 with subs. Any .22 ammo suggestions for a quick ,clean , QUIET, kill? I'm still hoping the cat is stuck up a tree, too scared to come down, but I guess it's been 24 hours, or so, so I won't get my hopes up. Your problem is that you put your cats outside, unsupervised. If you do that, sometimes they die. More often than not, they just wander around doing things they shouldnt' be doing, like going in OTHER people's yards. Lol. Not my cat, nor my yard. The cat was missing from its own yard, mostly an indoor cat, who runs in and out the door, every ten minutes. He was not a wanderer. |
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Live trap? Granted you'll probaly catch EVERY cat or dog in the neighborhood but maybe you'll get lucky one night. If you do catch a yote take it out to the wastelands and either set it free or put a bullet in it's head. Although there is no honor in killing something in a cage. As a former trapper I can tell you a yote won't go into a live box trap. They have to be able to circle and check the bait out from all different angles and need an escape route. A leg hold trap would turn into a disaster when it catches a neighbor's dog who will scream bloody murder. Then in the chaos as you somehow are trying to get this panic stricken, screaming animal out of the trap it will bite the fuck out of you. After the neighbors are awake and join in to throw a blanket on it as someone releases the spring on it's broken foot it will run home and you'll face animal cruelty charges and a big vet bill. A coyote will scream and snarl enough to wake the neighbors, believe me, then what? I could not use a leghold, there, and I would not use a live trap, doubting its chance of success. |
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Ummm you DO realize this isnt a one time thing, right? As in, one yote means a pack is likely around. I agree, however, killing one there, might persuade the rest of the pack to move on. As I said, my Sis is almost a peta type, (not quite), and may not let me go for it. However, the fact that she has another cat, might sway her. I'm a dog person, and not a huge fan of cats usually, but as far as cats go, "Fisher ", was a pretty cool critter.... 
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LOL! That's awesome!!!!!!! |
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I like the treble hook idea, Absolutely one of the stupidest ways to go about it. The chance of hooking a non target species will end up costing you and you can end up a felon if you inadvertantly catch a hawk, buzzard, owl, or any of the hundreds of species listed in The Migratory Bird Treaty Act. Quoted:
You need a nuisance wildlife trapper, contact your state wildlife agency, they should be able to refer you to someone. This. Quoted:
I'm really not concerned about causing a slow painful death in THIS case. While I realize the yote is just "being a yote", my sister is devastated, and she DOES have another cat... I want the thing dead, or too scared to come back around. Wounded predators can become dependant on garbage, pets, poultry and livestock for a food source. You need to drop em where he stands. I've head shot quite a few with an HMR. An accurate .22 inside of 50 yards is doable on a stationary coyote. It takes patience to get the shot you want. |
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Temic. Bacon Grease soaked sponges. BIG treble hook suspended from branch with wire about 4' off the ground. I have "heard" all of these are quite effective. The neighbors will be amused to see their dogs hanging from their mouths.... Quoted:
Lucky sister. I wish 'our' cat would disappear.  That's what I was thinking. OP should reward the coyote. |
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EXCELLENT choice, although MBs ARE a bit too pricey for me. |
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This works like a charm, but it also narrows your field of fire. To get the little beggar to stay in one spot long enough to bag him, baiting the yard with sardines also works well.
Shoot from indoors with the door barely open. Stand as far back from the door as you can. |