[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Tesla vs Edison (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/29/2012 9:00:58 PM EDT
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Edison was an asshole and Tesla's inventions impact our daily lives more than Edison. Tesla FTW
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Tesla for sure IMO. I want to build a tesla coil for my class! Tesla was a wierdo but he saw the future. His fault was that he didn't see the future in atom smashing and demonized it in favor of static electricity from the stratosphere which still has not been developed. |
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Quoted: Tesla was a genius with a PR problem. Everytime you flip on a light switch it's Tesla you should thank. It's the modulation of alternating current that gave us the modern world, not the phonograph. Indeed. His work on AC is what really impacts more than anything else. And yeah, tesla wasn't great at marketing his ideas like Edison was.
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Alot of the website that stuff is from is horseshit. Edison and Tesla were both important. Neither were perfect. |
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Tesla hallucinated. How do we now he wasn't just imagining shit? He was imagining shit. That "shit" was the radio, X-ray tubes, remote control boats, robots, logic gates, centrifigal pumps and a whole bunch of other innovations. People who have "visions" are called visionaries. 
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Tesla did not publish his research. Edison did publish. Publish or perish. That is how one inventor stands on the shoulders of those before him. It is why we are experiencing exponential growth of knowledge. Tesla held about 300 registered patents and a wealth of notes and journals survive him. Want to know what really boned him? George Westinghouse was his patron and financial backer. George Westinghouse died on the Titanic. |
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Tesla did not publish his research. Edison did publish. Publish or perish. That is how one inventor stands on the shoulders of those before him. It is why we are experiencing exponential growth of knowledge. Tesla held about 300 registered patents and a wealth of notes and journals survive him. Want to know what really boned him? George Westinghouse was his patron and financial backer. George Westinghouse died on the Titanic. George Westinghouse died a month before the Titanic went down. He was old (fought in the Civil War) and in poor health. Tesla was undeniably a genius; he spoke 6 languages. But he was also eccentric and OCD and as has been pointed out, a poor businessman. Edison was a dick, but didn't screw Tesla as much as J.P. Morgan did. |
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Tesla hallucinated. How do we now he wasn't just imagining shit? He was imagining shit. That "shit" was the radio, X-ray tubes, remote control boats, robots, logic gates, centrifigal pumps and a whole bunch of other innovations. People who have "visions" are called visionaries. I have visions of nekkid women every 5 minutes. I'll have to inform my wife that I'm a visionary, as opposed to a dirty old man. |
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Tesla did not publish his research. Edison did publish. Publish or perish. That is how one inventor stands on the shoulders of those before him. It is why we are experiencing exponential growth of knowledge. Tesla held about 300 registered patents and a wealth of notes and journals survive him. Want to know what really boned him? George Westinghouse was his patron and financial backer. George Westinghouse died on the Titanic. wasn't Westinghouse a proponent of DC power? |
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Tesla was natuarlly brilliant. I'm happy to say I'm a Tesla fan boy. However, without guys like JP Morgan, Edision or Westinghouse Tesla wouldn't have made it anywhere. He would have just dug ditches.
Edision was the begining of Corporate America. He was a necessary evil, he was the bank roll for Tesla when he came here. It was sad he was so shady. 
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Tesla once worked for Edison. Edison told him that if he could invent an electric motor he would give him a $50,000 bonus. Tesla did it and Edison never paid him the money. It's actually a bit more complicated than that. Tesla worked for one of Edisons companies at the time, so he was already being paid. Tesla told him he would make his DC Generators more efficient by 100X. Edision told him he'd give him $50K if he did. Edison came back with plans for an AC Motor, which he already had devolved in his mind years back. Edison claimed it was a joke, offered him a raise after a confrontation, then Tesla quit. Could you imagine going to your boss and saying "I have an idea, we'd have to rip this whole place down and start over but it'll work better." 
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Tesla held about 300 registered patents and a wealth of notes and journals survive him. Want to know what really boned him? George Westinghouse was his patron and financial backer. George Westinghouse died on the Titanic. good grief. 
no, Westinghouse did not go down with the Titanic. he was already dead and buried when the Titanic sailed. click and make the connection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV and http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-timeline-1912-john-jacob-astor-dies ar-jedi |
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Tesla was natuarlly brilliant. I'm happy to say I'm a Tesla fan boy. However, without guys like JP Morgan, Edision or Westinghouse Tesla wouldn't have made it anywhere. He would have just dug ditches. Edision was the begining of Corporate America. He was a necessary evil, he was the bank roll for Tesla when he came here. It was sad he was so shady. http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/tesla07.jpg This. |
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Tesla was natuarlly brilliant. I'm happy to say I'm a Tesla fan boy. However, without guys like JP Morgan, Edision or Westinghouse Tesla wouldn't have made it anywhere. He would have just dug ditches. Edision was the begining of Corporate America. He was a necessary evil, he was the bank roll for Tesla when he came here. It was sad he was so shady. http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/tesla07.jpg As far as being a businessman, Westinghouse was to Edison as Edison was to Tesla. Edison was hardly the J.P. Morgan of electricity/light bulbs. He was just a lot more of a businessman than Tesla. |
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Edison was a shrewd businessman until his ego got in the way. Tesla was a weird genius who is responsible for our modern day living.
Having said that,Ultra High Voltage DC may be the next big thing in power transmission though. Siemens is currently developing the technology. |
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Edison was a shrewd businessman. Tesla was a weird genius who is responsible for our modern day living. Having said that,Ultra High Voltage DC may be the next big thing in power transmission though. Siemens is currently developing the technology. Light bulbs and movie cameras are pretty important to the modern world, too. |
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Edison's experiments were based on "stab in the dark a thousand times until you hit something" approach.
Tesla foresaw his experiments in his mind, then executed them the first time in physical reality. When your cell phone vibrates from a text message, there are at least 2 inventions from Tesla. Alternating Current, as mentioned...Tesla. The question I had as a kid was why did we learn about Alexander Graham Bell, Edison, and Ely Whitney, but Tesla's name wasn't mentioned until electronics class in my Senior year, and then only as a reference to a Tesla coil. My dad, being a physicist, of course schooled me at home as to the importance of Tesla, so I was up-to-speed. I had the same question when I went to the Smithsonian National Museum of American History, where there are large exhibits lauding the accomplishments of Edison, Bell, Whitney, Wright Bros., etc. I went searching for anything on Tesla, ad found an iron plaque hidden around a corner where it wasn't even in its own display area, with a list of his over 900 electrical patents. His experiments with mass distribution of wireless power were financed by JP Morgan, who upon learning that they were successful, asked, "If there aren't any wires, where do I put the meter?" The financing was brought down to a trickle after that. Read Tesla's autobiography. He was an exceptional man. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Edison was a shrewd businessman. Tesla was a weird genius who is responsible for our modern day living. Having said that,Ultra High Voltage DC may be the next big thing in power transmission though. Siemens is currently developing the technology. Light bulbs and movie cameras are pretty important to the modern world, too. They don't run without Tesla's electricity. And having a power station for every mile to make DC work would have cost way too much and way too inefficient. |
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Tesla was too far "out there" for his own good in that he never had that killer proprietary impulse that Edison had.
Edison, though not a douche IMO, did have some ego that he just couldn't get himself around very often. Tesla did have more impact on today though. |
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He just needed to complete his Death Ray Quoted:
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Edison was an asshole and Tesla's inventions impact our daily lives more than Edison. Tesla FTW I concur Tesla was a bad ass. I don't know, I freid the shit outta lots of dudes using Tesla coils. Not quite a "Death Ray" but it worked hella good on infantry and as long as there weren't too many of them it even worked on armor somewhat. |
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Quoted: Behold the ENTIRE Tesla exhibit at the Smithsonian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6784596/tesla.jpg Makes you mad doesn't it? Yeah. It makes you wonder if there is some kind of institutional conspiracy against Tesla at all levels. They barely teach anything about him in school and the museums don't say shir about him either.
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Tesla was a pure genius if there ever was one. Teaching himself mechanical engineering, designing engines, father of A/C current.
Edison used his wealth from inventions like the phonograph to develop a think tank of inventors on his payroll to systematically solve issues with inventions they were developing such as the incandescent light bulb. Edison used his big money to bulling Tesla and discredit his a/c current by doing crazy shit like electrocuting elephants in the street to show how dangerous A/c current could be. Never mind that with D/c current they would need a substation even mile or so... Tesla was the man! Edison was just big money... |
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Tesla was a pure genius if there ever was one. Teaching himself mechanical engineering, designing engines, father of A/C current. Edison used his wealth from inventions like the phonograph to develop a think tank of inventors on his payroll to systematically solve issues with inventions they were developing such as the incandescent light bulb. Edison used his big money to bulling Tesla and discredit his a/c current by doing crazy shit like electrocuting elephants in the street to show how dangerous A/c current could be. Never mind that with D/c current they would need a substation generation plant even mile or so... Tesla was the man! Edison was just big money... FIFY Substations step down AC current. |
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Behold the ENTIRE Tesla exhibit at the Smithsonian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6784596/tesla.jpg Makes you mad doesn't it? Yeah. It makes you wonder if there is some kind of institutional conspiracy against Tesla at all levels. They barely teach anything about him in school and the museums don't say shir about him either. There was a program about Tesla on the History channel a few years ago, and they said most of his notes disappeared after his death (IIRC, they implied government agents took them). |
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Behold the ENTIRE Tesla exhibit at the Smithsonian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6784596/tesla.jpg Makes you mad doesn't it? Yeah. It makes you wonder if there is some kind of institutional conspiracy against Tesla at all levels. They barely teach anything about him in school and the museums don't say shir about him either. James Clark Maxwell? Charles Parsons? Karl Ferdinand Braun? Lot's of names lost to history for the most part, who were very significant. This is a non-issue blown out of proportion due to fancy internet comics and graphics. The "Oh my God, it spins" of history. The AC vs. DC fight, that Edison ultimately lost, is well covered in general history material - I know it was in the '80s when I first read about it as a student. Tesla's role was second to Westinghouse's in the narrative, though. The history of that era was shaped by industry, and the industry of that era was led by businessmen, not scientists. Those are the names we learn - businessmen - Rockefeller, Westinghouse, Carnegie, JP Morgan, Edison. Tesla was a mere employee, and quite eccentric at that. In the US, it's all about marketing. Today, we have the same dynamic - "Dr. Oz" is hardly the greatest MD out there, and strikes me as quite the shyster - but he has made himself famous through marketing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Behold the ENTIRE Tesla exhibit at the Smithsonian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6784596/tesla.jpg Makes you mad doesn't it? Yeah. It makes you wonder if there is some kind of institutional conspiracy against Tesla at all levels. They barely teach anything about him in school and the museums don't say shir about him either. James Clark Maxwell? Charles Parsons? Karl Ferdinand Braun? Lot's of names lost to history for the most part, who were very significant. This is a non-issue blown out of proportion due to fancy internet comics and graphics. The "Oh my God, it spins" of history. The AC vs. DC fight, that Edison ultimately lost, is well covered in general history material - I know it was in the '80s when I first read about it as a student. Tesla's role was second to Westinghouse's in the narrative, though. The history of that era was shaped by industry, and the industry of that era was led by businessmen, not scientists. Those are the names we learn - businessmen - Rockefeller, Westinghouse, Carnegie, JP Morgan, Edison. Tesla was a mere employee, and quite eccentric at that. In the US, it's all about marketing. Today, we have the same dynamic - "Dr. Oz" is hardly the greatest MD out there, and strikes me as quite the shyster - but he has made himself famous through marketing. I watched documentaries to find out about Tesla and how important he was. Not by reading internet memes. |