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9/24/2012 1:14:12 PM EDT
are probably the stupidest political group out there.

I'd rather have a conversation with a communist than an anarchist.
9/24/2012 1:20:20 PM EDT
[#1]

No, while anarchists are stupid, I wouldn’t say that they
were the stupidest.




The stupidest would have to be statist loving neo-cons who
perceive anything other than status quo to be anarchist.




And who advocate for a
command and control economy while saying that they aren’t advocating for a command
and control economy…




9/24/2012 1:23:38 PM EDT
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are probably the stupidest political group out there.

I'd rather have a conversation with a communist than an anarchist.


Most anarchist have no idea what they are talking about.They are usually people who have failed to succeed in current society ,so they advocate anarchy in the hopes that what ever society emerges from the old one that they will somehow be the leaders/elite of the new one.
9/24/2012 1:29:40 PM EDT
[#3]
First post nailed it.
9/24/2012 1:31:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Libertarian?
9/24/2012 1:32:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Just ask them; "how's the eighth grade going?"
9/24/2012 1:34:03 PM EDT
[#6]
How do anarchists hold a meeting?
9/24/2012 1:34:58 PM EDT
[#7]
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Libertarian?


Something tells me OP is broadbrushing anyone who disagrees with his views on where the state should mettle in individual's affairs.


OP do you mean Chomsky-ites (progressive useful idiots) or Annarcho-Capitalist?

9/24/2012 1:36:54 PM EDT
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No, while anarchists are stupid, I wouldn’t say that theywere the stupidest.

The stupidest would have to be statist loving neo-cons whoperceive anything other than status quo to be anarchist.


And who advocate for acommand and control economy while saying that they aren’t advocating for a commandand control economy…



What are you still in high school?
9/24/2012 2:09:36 PM EDT
[#9]
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No, while anarchists are stupid, I wouldn’t say that theywere the stupidest.

The stupidest would have to be statist loving neo-cons who perceive anything other than status quo to be anarchist.

And who advocate for acommand and control economy while saying that they aren’t advocating for a commandand control economy…


Can you give us an accurate description of the term "neocon", give us some examples of their
beliefs, and name five of them?

(FWIW the "statist" wing of the conservative party is more closely aligned with the paleocons
like Buchannan or Huckabee.)
9/24/2012 2:14:31 PM EDT
[#10]
anarchists generally don't really know what the hell they want they just know they don't like what they have.

many would advocate a small fed government stance I'm sure or just stripping away a lot of the nonsense laws out there.

9/24/2012 2:20:45 PM EDT
[#11]
I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.
9/24/2012 6:30:43 PM EDT
[#12]
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No, while anarchists are stupid, I wouldn’t say that theywere the stupidest.

The stupidest would have to be statist loving neo-cons whoperceive anything other than status quo to be anarchist.


And who advocate for acommand and control economy while saying that they aren’t advocating for a commandand control economy…



+1

9/24/2012 6:36:07 PM EDT
[#13]
Anarchists tend to be useful idiots for either extreme.  Not realising that they are going to be the first ones up against the wall.
9/24/2012 6:37:06 PM EDT
[#14]
I've known some pretty smart anarchists.

Rational anarchists acknowledge that anarchism is impossible in our modern society and instead try to limit government as much as possible instead of eliminating it, despite it's flaws.
9/24/2012 6:37:27 PM EDT
[#15]
Complete idiots.
9/24/2012 6:44:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Communism is a form of anarchism.

True communists or anarchists of any stripe are extremely rare.

Most of the self-styled communists you'll ever meet are just your run of the mill totalitarian socialists.
9/24/2012 6:50:19 PM EDT
[#17]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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9/24/2012 6:52:45 PM EDT
[#18]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.
9/24/2012 6:57:44 PM EDT
[#19]



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are probably the stupidest political group out there.



I'd rather have a conversation with a communist than an anarchist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fibDNwF8bjs


 
9/24/2012 6:58:44 PM EDT
[#20]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.


What would they be doing in a State pen if there wasn't any government?
9/24/2012 7:01:24 PM EDT
[#21]
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How do anarchists hold a meeting?


Poorly
9/24/2012 7:02:01 PM EDT
[#22]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.


What would they be doing in a State pen if there wasn't any government?

The same thing they would doing if there wasn't any government to protect them on the outside:

Standing in a pool of their own piss.


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9/24/2012 7:03:30 PM EDT
[#23]
I once worked with a young guy who, with a straight face, claimed to be both an anarchist and a pacifist.


9/24/2012 7:04:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.


What would they be doing in a State pen if there wasn't any government?


If there was no government, the state pen would not exist. Therefore, those people would be free to roam as they chose.
9/24/2012 7:05:21 PM EDT
[#25]
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I once worked with a young guy who, with a straight face, claimed to be both an anarchist and a pacifist.




So basically he likes to catch?
9/24/2012 7:05:45 PM EDT
[#26]


In a perfect world.
9/24/2012 7:06:40 PM EDT
[#27]
I've talked to a couple of anarchists when I was in school.

I always offer to buy them a one way ticket to Somalia so they can live their dream.

Noone has ever accepted though.

Wonder why....
9/24/2012 7:09:28 PM EDT
[#28]
The problem with anarchists is the same problem that socialists have. They don't understand how evil people can really be.
9/24/2012 7:09:32 PM EDT
[#29]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.


What would they be doing in a State pen if there wasn't any government?

The same thing they would doing if there wasn't any government to protect them on the outside:

Standing in a pool of their own piss.


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No, I mean how would they have ended up in a State penitentiary without any State government to put them there?  

As far as government protecting people, that's true in a broad sense for the Federal government from external threat.  Not so much on a local basis with cops.  I'm sure they'll do their best to find out who killed me if I am murdered, but protection?  

I don't know about you, but I don't expect the local government to protect me from anything.  Because it can't.   Any claims by politicians to the contrary is just a handjob for votes.
9/24/2012 7:12:41 PM EDT
[#30]
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I've talked to a couple of anarchists when I was in school.

I always offer to buy them a one way ticket to Somalia so they can live their dream.

Noone has ever accepted though.

Wonder why....


Somalia is not an anarchist society.



9/24/2012 7:13:12 PM EDT
[#31]
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I've talked to a couple of anarchists when I was in school.

I always offer to buy them a one way ticket to Somalia so they can live their dream.

Noone has ever accepted though.

Wonder why....


At every turn in modern history Anarchism has always marched lockstep with Marxism.  They are both people's revolutions.

They have used assassination, terrorism, and organized labor to cause more shit per capita than any group that has never held the reins of a nation. In fact, the fascism of Nazi Germany, Italy, and Spain was able to come to power mostly due to the antics of anarchistics and their breatheren the communists.

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9/24/2012 7:13:45 PM EDT
[#32]
I would argue that anyone buying in to the notion that a political party controlled by a small cadre of elite members has their best interests in mind hasn't applied their critical thinking skills to the situation.

The GOP primaries are a perfect example of this. I have yet to find anyone who actually liked or is enthusiastic about Mitt Romney. Alas, it was his turn...
9/24/2012 7:14:41 PM EDT
[#33]
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The problem with anarchists is the same problem that socialists have. They don't understand how evil people can really be.


I think they do.

Thats why they dont want governments who, in their view, have a license to rob, kidnap, and kill people without consequence.
9/24/2012 7:16:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.

9/24/2012 7:17:30 PM EDT
[#35]
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I always get a kick out of self-proclaimed "anarchists" because in a true anarchy, those pussies would be the first to be eaten alive.

They should get down on their knees and kiss the toes of those that protect them from the evil that they are obviously oblivious to.


You put that round in the ten range my friend.  I scorn anarchists along with every other group of fuckwits who have no place in civilized society.



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ETA: I have always wanted to round up a few college anarchists and throw them in some place like Pelican Bay and give the guards a week off. They would be begging for some law and order after realizing that without government, life gets nasty.


What would they be doing in a State pen if there wasn't any government?

The same thing they would doing if there wasn't any government to protect them on the outside:

Standing in a pool of their own piss.


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No, I mean how would they have ended up in a State penitentiary without any State government to put them there?  

As far as government protecting people, that's true in a broad sense for the Federal government from external threat.  Not so much on a local basis with cops.  I'm sure they'll do their best to find out who killed me if I am murdered, but protection?  

I don't know about you, but I don't expect the local government to protect me from anything.  Because it can't.   Any claims by politicians to the contrary is just a handjob for votes.


I don't rely on the cops for anything either, every man should see to his own.

However, the 47% would slit your throat and steal your wares if they had no system to fear. And there are more of them than you can possibly defend yourself from. Everytime Western Civilization got a taste of Anarchy, they put a strong man in power to make the trains run on time again.



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9/24/2012 7:19:15 PM EDT
[#36]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.


Read a history book and tell me where the anarchists stand when boots hit the pavement.


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9/24/2012 7:19:18 PM EDT
[#37]
I would agree. Pretty dim bulbs most of them.
9/24/2012 7:23:19 PM EDT
[#38]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



I sure see a lot of anarchists at TEA Party rallies.   Oh wait that was OWS!
9/24/2012 7:25:49 PM EDT
[#39]
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I've talked to a couple of anarchists when I was in school.

I always offer to buy them a one way ticket to Somalia so they can live their dream.

Noone has ever accepted though.

Wonder why....


Somalia is not an anarchist society.






Without getting into serious debate about whether or not a true Anarchistic society could exist before someone fills the power void one way or another, I think we can agree that most college aged "Anarchists" view their philosophy as the absence of established government, or possibly a government so weak as to be effectively nonexistent. While I concede Somalia isn't a perfect example; it is close enough to prove my point: Nobody wants to live in such a society.



9/24/2012 7:32:00 PM EDT
[#40]
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I've talked to a couple of anarchists when I was in school.

I always offer to buy them a one way ticket to Somalia so they can live their dream.

Noone has ever accepted though.

Wonder why....


Somalia is not an anarchist society.






Without getting into serious debate about whether or not a true Anarchistic society could exist before someone fills the power void one way or another, I think we can agree that most college aged "Anarchists" view their philosophy as the absence of established government, or possibly a government so weak as to be effectively nonexistent. While I concede Somalia isn't a perfect example; it is close enough to prove my point: Nobody wants to live in such a society.





As close as Somalia is to a good example, why not we take a look at it?

http://www.libertariannews.org/2011/06/30/anarchy-in-somalia/

In any case, most people don't want to live there because of technology reasons.
9/24/2012 7:34:20 PM EDT
[#41]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.


Read a history book and tell me where the anarchists stand when boots hit the pavement.


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During any Revolution, Protest, or event such as those, you get all of the different fringe elements together to try and co opt the movement.
Turns out most people don't like the idea of being on their own and independent of the government tit.
So the communists/socialists prevail.

9/24/2012 7:41:48 PM EDT
[#42]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



I sure see a lot of anarchists at TEA Party rallies.   Oh wait that was OWS!


There are probably more real anarchists at TEA Party events than at OWS; the trust fund muppets wouldn't know what to do if someone stopped giving them money for Starbucks.

Calling yourself a potato doesn't make you one, no matter how often you repeat it.


Most of the stinky guys wearing ratty jackets with those "A" symbols on them are Marxists trying to make a fashion statement.
9/24/2012 7:42:16 PM EDT
[#43]



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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.



Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.



Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.



Whoa these groups are SO similar.





Read a history book and tell me where the anarchists stand when boots hit the pavement.





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During any Revolution, Protest, or event such as those, you get all of the different fringe elements together to try and co opt the movement.

Turns out most people don't like the idea of being on their own and independent of the government tit.

So the communists/socialists prevail.



From the horse's mouth:



http://marxists.org/subject/anarchism/index.htm



 
9/24/2012 7:53:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Little boxes....and not everything fits into them.

Absence of a ruler.

Self rule.

Despite leaders and systems and laws...you still rule yourself, you can still choose to do what you wish whatever the consequences....

You live in the state of anarchy right now, the illusion of order is merely the roped off kiddie section of the pool in which you presently swim....there is no rule you cannot choose to break. Chaos and entropy are the ultimate predominate forces of the universe and order is an anomaly within this sea.

You "check yo self" from killing your neighbor when angry at him due to a number of reasons and consequences all seemingly derived from supposed order, yet this is merely you ruling yourself, forcing yourself to take a path that avoids unpleasant consequence...you can just as easily choose to take the other path, no external force makes the choice for you, you, on your own, through a cost/benefit analysis, do so.

Self rule.

Absence of a ruler.

Your submission to external forces lasts only as long as is convenient for you....

You are all anarchists, perhaps unwittingly, and live in the state of anarchy, perhaps unknowingly.
9/24/2012 7:55:01 PM EDT
[#45]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



Anarchists are neither right nor left and believe in NO government.

9/24/2012 7:55:15 PM EDT
[#46]
So who will keep the disorder from forming into order?
9/24/2012 7:59:26 PM EDT
[#47]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.


Read a history book and tell me where the anarchists stand when boots hit the pavement.


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During any Revolution, Protest, or event such as those, you get all of the different fringe elements together to try and co opt the movement.
Turns out most people don't like the idea of being on their own and independent of the government tit.
So the communists/socialists prevail.

From the horse's mouth:

http://marxists.org/subject/anarchism/index.htm
 


There are different forms of anarchism and communism.

Some of these forms have a few similar goals, so they work together.

However I assure you Anarcho-capitalists have incredibly little/no similarities with communism.

9/24/2012 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#48]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



Anarchists are neither right nor left and believe in NO government.



I like to say they are so far right they are off the spectrum.
9/24/2012 8:01:17 PM EDT
[#49]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



Anarchists are neither right nor left and believe in NO government.



I like to say they are so far right they are off the spectrum.


they loop back around and meet the far left.

I have said for a long time that the far right and the far left are basically the same assholes, they just don't know it.
9/24/2012 8:03:40 PM EDT
[#50]
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Communists and Anarchists are not the same despite what the media and Fox news says.

Communists = far left ideologies of government taking care of everyone.

Anarchists = far right ideologies of government getting the fuck out of the way of everyone.

Whoa these groups are SO similar.



Anarchists are neither right nor left and believe in NO government.



I like to say they are so far right they are off the spectrum.


they loop back around and meet the far left.

I have said for a long time that the far right and the far left are basically the same assholes, they just don't know it.


YOU said they were off the spectrum.

They are not the same assholes, now the republicans and democrats are a different story.

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