Posted: 8/26/2012 5:35:07 PM EDT
| What was the gun he took from the guy he let fall through the trap door? Short barrel, pistol / rifle thing with a very small grip and a square box mag well. |
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Quoted: Quoted: broomhandle Mauser Just googled that. Bingo. The pistol tucks into the stock???? Sweeeeeeeet!! What caliber?? How many rounds? Looking that up now. Paging panzersergeant!!! Lots of info and pics here: Picked up a C96 at the Gunshow If you have a hankering to own one of these, do it! You'll never be sorry . . . |
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broomhandle Mauser Just googled that. Bingo. The pistol tucks into the stock???? Sweeeeeeeet!! What caliber?? How many rounds? Looking that up now. Paging panzersergeant!!! Lots of info and pics here: Picked up a C96 at the Gunshow If you have a hankering to own one of these, do it! You'll never be sorry . . . Very cool. Cost vs Luger? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: broomhandle Mauser Just googled that. Bingo. The pistol tucks into the stock???? Sweeeeeeeet!! What caliber?? How many rounds? Looking that up now. Paging panzersergeant!!! Lots of info and pics here: Picked up a C96 at the Gunshow If you have a hankering to own one of these, do it! You'll never be sorry . . . Very cool. Cost vs Luger? Depending, it can be CONSIDERABLY less. There is such a huge variation in Luger pricing, from equal to wartime P.38 levels, up to very nice and clean used car pricing. There's similar variation in the C96 pricing, but those real collector's pistols, like a large-ring slabside, or factory carbine, generally only turn up at auction, or through specialist dealers. A decent, shootable pistol that should have all numbered parts matching will start (at online auction) in the $800-1000 range, and climb from there, depending on overall condition, how clean the bore is, accessories, etc. You can do better than this, substantially better, by hitting your local gunshow events and shopping around, just like panzersergeant. With Broomhandles, just like Lugers or any other design from that era, educating yourself FIRST is the best possible thing you could do. Then, insist on disassembling the pistol, which can be done without tools, BEFORE you lay out any cash. Certain areas on the Broom do not display wear/cracks/peening, etc., unless the pistol is stripped. The bolt stop is a perfect example of this situation, and many of them are cracked by shooters who don't bother to replace old springs before they go shooting. Having the bolt stop fail can turn your $1500 beauty into a non-matching parts gun in one magazine's time. The FAQ page linked in the other thread is a great place to start. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Didn't Patrick Wayne use one in "Big Jake"? No that was a P-38 made up by the prop dept. to "look like" a Bergmann. If so, I stand corrected! Would make sense; Bergmanns were then, as now, scarce, and I'll bet it would have been a nightmare to get one to work at all with blanks. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Didn't Patrick Wayne use one in "Big Jake"? No that was a P-38 made up by the prop dept. to "look like" a Bergmann. If so, I stand corrected! Would make sense; Bergmanns were then, as now, scarce, and I'll bet it would have been a nightmare to get one to work at all with blanks. I never knew it, until last month I found a copy of "Big Jake" on DVD at Wally World. It is one of my favorite JW movies so of course I had to buy it. During the scene where the son shoots and they all dive into the creek, I thought the pistol looked odd. So being a gun nut I had to know, pausing and slow scan forward, I could tell it was a P-38 with chunks of metal(?) added to it to give it the rough shape of a Bergmann. Main thing I noticed first was the P-38 slide mounted safety. |
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broomhandle Mauser Just googled that. Bingo. The pistol tucks into the stock???? Sweeeeeeeet!! What caliber?? How many rounds? Looking that up now. Paging panzersergeant!!! Lots of info and pics here: Picked up a C96 at the Gunshow If you have a hankering to own one of these, do it! You'll never be sorry . . . Very cool. Cost vs Luger? Depending, it can be CONSIDERABLY less. There is such a huge variation in Luger pricing, from equal to wartime P.38 levels, up to very nice and clean used car pricing. There's similar variation in the C96 pricing, but those real collector's pistols, like a large-ring slabside, or factory carbine, generally only turn up at auction, or through specialist dealers. A decent, shootable pistol that should have all numbered parts matching will start (at online auction) in the $800-1000 range, and climb from there, depending on overall condition, how clean the bore is, accessories, etc. You can do better than this, substantially better, by hitting your local gunshow events and shopping around, just like panzersergeant. With Broomhandles, just like Lugers or any other design from that era, educating yourself FIRST is the best possible thing you could do. Then, insist on disassembling the pistol, which can be done without tools, BEFORE you lay out any cash. Certain areas on the Broom do not display wear/cracks/peening, etc., unless the pistol is stripped. The bolt stop is a perfect example of this situation, and many of them are cracked by shooters who don't bother to replace old springs before they go shooting. Having the bolt stop fail can turn your $1500 beauty into a non-matching parts gun in one magazine's time. The FAQ page linked in the other thread is a great place to start. I think I would rather have a P-38 than either the Broomhandle or the Luger but would rather have a Broomhandle than a Luger. 
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Dude! It's the Han Solo blaster!!!! Inch for inch!!! Correct. And storm troopers carried modified Sterling's. The storm trooper heavy gun that was set up as the millennium falcon flies out of the death star after the tractor beam was shut down is a Dutch Lewis gun. |
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Dude! It's the Han Solo blaster!!!! Inch for inch!!! Correct. And storm troopers carried modified Sterling's. The storm trooper heavy gun that was set up as the millennium falcon flies out of the death star after the tractor beam was shut down is a Dutch Lewis gun. <rents Star Wars> |
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Quoted: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Big_Jake#Movie_prop:_.22Bergmann_1911.22Quoted: Quoted: Didn't Patrick Wayne use one in "Big Jake"? No that was a P-38 made up by the prop dept. to "look like" a Bergmann. If so, I stand corrected! Would make sense; Bergmanns were then, as now, scarce, and I'll bet it would have been a nightmare to get one to work at all with blanks. |
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Quoted: Best picture I could find doing a fast Google search... you look close you will see the safety lever on the slide. http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u321/definc/800px-Vlcsnap-.jpg Wow, in that pic it's actually pretty obvious! Well done! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Best picture I could find doing a fast Google search... you look close you will see the safety lever on the slide. http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u321/definc/800px-Vlcsnap-.jpg Wow, in that pic it's actually pretty obvious! Well done! Not trying to hijack the OP's thread, but one more quick link and I am done talking about Bergmanns , I promise..... Here is a really cool link to a DYI gunsmithing forum where a guy is building a .22 blowback pistol designed to look like a real Bergmann. http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=16664eb62309210fd0b55796df6f572b;act=ST;f=3;t=27953;st=0 |
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Best picture I could find doing a fast Google search... you look close you will see the safety lever on the slide. http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u321/definc/800px-Vlcsnap-.jpg Wow, in that pic it's actually pretty obvious! Well done! Not trying to hijack the OP's thread, but one more quick link and I am done talking about Bergmanns , I promise..... Here is a really cool link to a DYI gunsmithing forum where a guy is building a .22 blowback pistol designed to look like a real Bergmann. http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=16664eb62309210fd0b55796df6f572b;act=ST;f=3;t=27953;st=0 This thread covers any and all guns that even remotely look like any of the above!! |