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8/8/2012 8:59:55 AM EDT
Would it be illegal to slip a political ad into a "free" newspaper and replace it in its rack? What about doing it to every paper in the rack?
8/8/2012 9:01:22 AM EDT
[#1]
I doubt there is anything illegal about that.
 
8/8/2012 9:03:23 AM EDT
[#2]
Go ahead i see no problem with it...
8/8/2012 9:04:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Could be vandalism. Print from your home computer, where gloves for every process would be my suggestion if you want to do it without getting caught.
8/8/2012 9:05:29 AM EDT
[#4]
If you're not selling anything, I don't see an issue.
8/8/2012 9:05:42 AM EDT
[#5]
If it's  an ad for a democratic cause then it is OK.  If it is for a Republican cause, it is racist, hateful, and will land you in jail.
 
8/8/2012 9:05:51 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd consider it theft. You did not print the paper. It may for free distribution, but it was done for the benefit of the publisher, not you. I believe it is the moral eqyuivalent of posting a campaign sign on someone else's property.
8/8/2012 9:06:02 AM EDT
[#7]
How could it be illegal? You are giving something away. Not like you are taking something from the newspaper. You are "adding value."

Just my take on it.
Hessian-1
8/8/2012 9:09:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Of course it could be illegal.  There's probably a law against it somewhere.  That's not the issue though, the issue is whether or not an LEO is going to give a shit enough to find the law to cite you, because at most, I'm guessing it's a fineable offense.  I can't see any cop really caring enough to do anything more than tell you to stop doing it.  
 
8/8/2012 9:10:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I'd consider it theft.




8/8/2012 9:11:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
If it's  an ad for a democratic cause then it is OK.  If it is for a Republican cause, it is racist, hateful, and will land you in jail.  


This.

You forgot to mention xenophobic, sexist, and homophobic.
8/8/2012 9:12:13 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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I'd consider it theft.






See my edit.
8/8/2012 9:17:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
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I'd consider it theft.






Many freely distributed newspapers get their revenue from advertisements. Sticking in your own ad circumvents paying the newspaper for the ad, all while using the labor and cost that the publisher put forth to distribute the newspaper. That's theft.

It might not be criminal theft, but it is theft none the less.
8/8/2012 9:17:59 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
How could it be illegal? You are giving something away. Not like you are taking something from the newspaper. You are "adding value."

Just my take on it.
Hessian-1


For starters, what you're "giving away" may or may not be of the same philosophy as the publisher. Further, usually racks need a permit to be located on public property. That cost him money and you're piggybacking on top of it.

If you want to distribute "free stuff", do as he did and jump the same hurdles and pay the same fees.

I was brought up with a simple code: "If it's not yours, don't touch it without permission." simple really, and it keeps you out of a lot of trouble.
8/8/2012 9:19:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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I'd consider it theft.






Many freely distributed newspapers get their revenue from advertisements. Sticking in your own ad circumvents paying the newspaper for the ad, all while using the labor and cost that the publisher put forth to distribute the newspaper. That's theft.

It might not be criminal theft, but theft none the less.


Most likely this, but it might be dependent on the way your state's statute reads.
8/8/2012 9:56:54 AM EDT
[#15]
You're using a newspaper as a free method to deliver you're message.

It would be akin to hacking into a broadcast station with your own commercial.
8/8/2012 10:01:57 AM EDT
[#16]
Meh
8/8/2012 10:05:08 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Would it be illegal to slip a political ad into a "free" newspaper and replace it in its rack? What about doing it to every paper in the rack?


I don't think slipping an ad into "The Facts" for Romney would be very effective.  
8/8/2012 10:11:31 AM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


Of course it could be illegal.  There's probably a law against it somewhere.


I'm sure that one of our 80 bazillion laws covers it somehow.

 



That said, go for it.






8/8/2012 10:31:01 AM EDT
[#19]
If you're only doing a stack of free Readers or Echelons, I wouldn't worry about it.  If you're stuffing every paper from a print run, you might want to rethink.
8/8/2012 10:39:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Probably.  Why not just pay the publication to do it for you?  If it's a free one, it's probably cheap.

You want some project mayhem stuff, check this out.  A couple of folks put these kind of stickers all over the subway a few weeks ago.

It's really odd just being there for your commute and staring at it for 20 minutes and before realizing it doesn't say "hang on to handle" or "don't lean on doors".

8/8/2012 10:40:06 AM EDT
[#21]
double tap
8/8/2012 10:41:48 AM EDT
[#22]
the kind of people that read free papers vote left, so its pointless.
8/8/2012 10:42:32 AM EDT
[#23]
The publisher charges a fee for "inserts".


Theft of services is the legal term for a crime which is committed when a person obtains valuable services — as opposed to goods — by deception, force, threat or other unlawful means, i.e., without lawfully compensating the provider of said services.


What do you think your answer would be if you asked the publisher to do it?
8/8/2012 10:52:48 AM EDT
[#24]
its only wrong if ya git caught...

the laws... they are like "serving suggestions"

there may be a picture of a pork chop on the box of rice-a-roni, but that doesnt mean ya have to make it that way...
8/8/2012 10:53:34 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:

A couple of folks put these kind of stickers all over the subway a few weeks ago.



http://www.globalgraphica.com/main/archives/donotbombiraq_1_doors.jpg
They are a bit late.





 
8/8/2012 10:56:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Probably.  Why not just pay the publication to do it for you?  If it's a free one, it's probably cheap.

You want some project mayhem stuff, check this out.  A couple of folks put these kind of stickers all over the subway a few weeks ago.

It's really odd just being there for your commute and staring at it for 20 minutes and before realizing it doesn't say "hang on to handle" or "don't lean on doors".

http://www.globalgraphica.com/main/archives/donotbombiraq_1_doors.jpg


Interesting take.
8/8/2012 10:57:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Case law says that the stack of papers are the property of the entity who printed them, until you take one at which point it becomes "yours" and you are only allowed to take one, not the whole stack.  So basicaly, the answer is no because you are tampering with someone elses property.  Also keep in mind that the stack of papers is sitting someplace that is also owned by an entity, that entity likely has an informal or formal agreement in place with the publisher that they could put the papers there in the first place.  This agreement does not include allowing random people to come and fuck around with the papers.



And no I'm not providing any citations deal with it






 
8/8/2012 11:14:17 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Case law says that the stack of papers are the property of the entity who printed them, until you take one at which point it becomes "yours" and you are only allowed to take one, not the whole stack.  So basicaly, the answer is no because you are tampering with someone elses property.  Also keep in mind that the stack of papers is sitting someplace that is also owned by an entity, that entity likely has an informal or formal agreement in place with the publisher that they could put the papers there in the first place.  This agreement does not include allowing random people to come and fuck around with the papers.

And no I'm not providing any citations deal with it


 



The paper in question doesn't post anything like "Take one" on their stands; it just says "Free." Would it be legal for me to take one, read it on the bus, leave it there and grab another one at lunch time, leave it in the break room, grab another one after work to soak up some grease from my fried chicken, etc.? Would it be legal for me to put a sticker in ONE? Once I pick it up it becomes mine, right? What if I'm now done with it and wish to replace it so that another person can read it? Don't want to cut too many trees down, do we?
8/8/2012 11:43:58 AM EDT
[#29]
I wonder how many pages this will go?

Hessian-1

"80 bazillion laws"

Was that it?
8/8/2012 11:46:22 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
I wonder how many pages this will go?

Hessian-1

"80 bazillion laws"

Was that it?



No shit. Everyone knows there are AT LEAST 87 bazillion laws.
8/8/2012 11:47:42 AM EDT
[#31]
I'd be inclined to say this would be considered theft....followed closely by vandalism/tampering.

Back in the WI union/Walker/recall shitstorm the unions were organizing their troops to hit grocery stores putting anti-Walker stickers on all the products from companies that donated money to his campaign.  Believe it or not the authorities threatened them vandalism/tampering if they went through with it.  As far as I know they didn't do it, but would have been nice to have a little visual reminder of what products to buy.
8/8/2012 11:54:21 AM EDT
[#32]
littering?

Regardless of the reasoning, I would say it is in poor taste.