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8/7/2012 9:39:12 AM EDT


Sikhs are concidered saint-soldiers.  The have always been friends of the U.S. as far as I know.  What do you think their reaction will be if the WI scum-bag is shown to be acting as part of a larger hate group?  Do you think they will let it slide, or could there be some bad times ahead for the skinheads?

8/7/2012 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Not sure, but they are a warrior group and always have been. They don't go for the Hindu do no harm BS.
 
8/7/2012 9:47:02 AM EDT
[#2]
I would totally watch the movie version of this.
8/7/2012 9:49:30 AM EDT
[#3]
I would not want to be on their shit list.
8/7/2012 9:52:11 AM EDT
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I would totally watch the movie version of this.






 
8/7/2012 9:54:05 AM EDT
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, or could there be some bad times ahead for the skinheads?[/span]

We can only hope.

I'd rather have a couple Sikhs covering my back than a squad of skinheads.
8/7/2012 9:54:34 AM EDT
[#6]
I hope so, but not all "skinheads" are 88s or whatever, so I hope they pick their targets well.
8/7/2012 9:56:34 AM EDT
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I've liked the Sikhs I've known.  I would trust them to cover my backside.

If they are straight from India, they do not let family disputes slide.  Somebody will get stabbed....
8/7/2012 9:58:59 AM EDT
[#8]
The few Sikhs I know are extremely nice and respectful, until it's time to not be nice and respectful.

I wouldn't want to cross them.

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8/7/2012 10:05:03 AM EDT
[#9]
I worked with a Sikh engineer for several years.  He was worried about the safety of his family during Y2K.  He told me a story about a coup that happened where he's from and the only Sikhs who weren't accosted were ones who had firearms to defend their homes.  He had also served in the military over there.

I let him borrow my .40 cal S&W and a box of ammo.  He brought it back to me after Y2K hidden in a tomato box.

8/7/2012 10:10:00 AM EDT
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The few Sikhs I know are extremely nice and respectful, until it's time to not be nice and respectful.

I wouldn't want to cross them.

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+1 Hard to comprehend why someone would target them.  I'm guessing the gunmen either just went for the first 'different' looking people he could find or mistook them for something else.
8/7/2012 10:20:49 AM EDT
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Hope so

Saw a photo of the temple with the US flag flying high.

Just don't have the words
8/7/2012 10:29:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Ironically, the Sikh temple near my house is covered with swastikas.





8/7/2012 10:31:49 AM EDT
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Ironically, the Sikh temple near my house is covered with swastikas.




Traditional sign of Prosperity and good luck in the east..curved right, not with straight bars like assholes in the NASDAP used?
8/7/2012 10:40:49 AM EDT
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The masonry ones all over the wall are straight (iirc), probably because it's a lot easier than chiseling a curve to them.



When they paint them the legs are usually a bit curved, and have dots in between them.
8/7/2012 10:43:47 AM EDT
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Hope so

Saw a photo of the temple with the US flag flying high.

Just don't have the words


I've known a few and all were really nice and respectful folks. The ethos behind their religion is pretty interesting, and worth reading up on.
8/7/2012 10:50:19 AM EDT
[#16]
Indian Sikhs seem to be a great bunch.



American converts are a bunch of hippy weirdos.




There are two temples here in Phoenix, as the former got sick of the latter.






8/7/2012 10:51:26 AM EDT
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I hope so, but not all "skinheads" are 88s or whatever, so I hope they pick their targets well.


I don't want to see this happen but the story would be sooo worth it



 
8/7/2012 10:53:55 AM EDT
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The masonry ones all over the wall are straight (iirc), probably because it's a lot easier than chiseling a curve to them.

When they paint them the legs are usually a bit curved, and have dots in between them.


Like this?

8/7/2012 10:54:30 AM EDT
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American converts are a bunch of hippy weirdos.[/div][div]


I didn't know there was such a thing.

It would be like converting to Amish, how do you integrate into the community w/o the cultural background?
8/7/2012 10:55:49 AM EDT
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Indian Sikhs seem to be a great bunch.

American converts are a bunch of hippy weirdos.

There are two temples here in Phoenix, as the former got sick of the latter.




Yes!!!

I lived in India for a little while.  I treated the Sikhs well, they treated me well.  I have respect for them.  

Then, a few years ago, I ran into a white dude dressed up like a Sikh, trying to sell tea to a vendor.  I got a weird, weird vibe from him.  Like the vibe I get from hippies/scam artists.
8/7/2012 11:07:50 AM EDT
[#21]
My wife knows one of the families that was at the temple in WI. They had just dropped off their kids there and they parents were parking the car. As the kids were going ion they saw the guy outside and ran in saying there was a man with a gun outside. Nobody believed them until the guy came in and shot the priest. Those two kids 10 and 12 IIRC pushed 12 people into a kitchen and locked the door as that man shot people. Those kids saved lives.

The parents when parking their car heard the initial shots out side and ran towards the temple to find their kids. Once the guy was stopped they were still searching. Once the police got their and blocked off the doors and clearing the area it took many hours for the parents to get to their kids after all the clearing, helping wounded, and getting statements.

Those two kids saw the priest get shot and die.
8/7/2012 11:08:52 AM EDT
[#22]
I simply cannot tolerate intolerance.
8/7/2012 11:21:52 AM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:





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I hope so, but not all "skinheads" are 88s or whatever, so I hope they pick their targets well.


I don't want to see this happen but the story would be sooo worth it

 


I've been that story. Go get your own ass kicked if you think it's so funny.

 





8/7/2012 11:22:32 AM EDT
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how do you integrate into the community w/o the cultural background?


Not very well, apparently

 
8/7/2012 11:29:38 AM EDT
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My uneducated guess is that the white trash scumbag thought that they were muslims.
8/7/2012 11:31:15 AM EDT
[#26]
I do not know any Sikhs personally but I have NEVER heard a bad word about them.
I have seen first hand that they are hard working and honest people.
8/7/2012 11:35:35 AM EDT
[#27]
I shot for awhile, a decade or more ago, with a Sikh guy with an M-14. Interesting guy. Loved America, wasn't so hot on Americans. Every conversation would circle back on a theme of "Ninety percent of Americans don't know what 'poverty' or 'freedom' mean."

I can say that I'm not partially unsympathic to his point of view. I guess coming from some place where dying in the streets from disease and starvation isn't completely foreign, tends to focus the mind.
8/7/2012 11:36:30 AM EDT
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My uneducated guess is that the white trash scumbag thought that they were muslims.


I wouldn't be surprised if he just didn't attack whatever non-white people he saw.
8/7/2012 11:38:15 AM EDT
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"Ninety percent of Americans don't know what 'poverty' or 'freedom' mean."





He's probably not far off with that.

 
8/7/2012 11:38:50 AM EDT
[#30]
I think that they will think of themselves as what they actually are instead of how we perceive them to be. they are actually Americans, loyal ones at that so I don't expect anything to actually change at all.
8/7/2012 11:42:01 AM EDT
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I simply cannot tolerate intolerance.


its probably why you arent a democrat



 
8/7/2012 11:45:50 AM EDT
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My uneducated guess is that the white trash scumbag thought that they were muslims.


I wouldn't be surprised if he just didn't attack whatever non-white people he saw.


If I had to venture a guess, their turban subjects them to an awful lot of negative attention from ignoramuses.
8/7/2012 12:00:53 PM EDT
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I shot for awhile, a decade or more ago, with a Sikh guy with an M-14. Interesting guy. Loved America, wasn't so hot on Americans. Every conversation would circle back on a theme of "Ninety percent of Americans don't know what 'poverty' or 'freedom' mean."

I can say that I'm not partially unsympathic to his point of view. I guess coming from some place where dying in the streets from disease and starvation isn't completely foreign, tends to focus the mind.


I think his figure is at least 5% too low.  

I went from rural Oklahoma straight into the USMC infantry for a couple of years, then on to Embassy Duty.  I grew up middle class, and never wanted for anything.  I was raised to treat everybody as my equal.

Getting stationed in New Delhi was a wake up call.  I saw real poverty.  I saw real exploitation, real injustice, real corruption, sickness and some amount of hunger (real hunger––––not the ghetto version).   I was typically disgusted with Americans that came to India on some bullshit spiritual quest.  They were merely financial sheep, ripe for the shearing.  Once you become accustomed misery and disease, you become jaded or indifferent.  Then to see some freaking hippy off the plane from California thinking he can somehow "help" somebody and get some sort of spiritual enlightenment......only to then get fleeced.  I quickly lost any sympathy for them as well.

There was one American woman that went to visit an ashram somewhere near Delhi.  She was wealthy.  They quickly drained her bank account as they brainwashed her.  When she could no longer pay, she became a servant/whore for the priests.  When the new wore off, they drove her to insanity.  Then, they turned her out into the streets.  This isnt an uncommon story.  To my knowledge, she probably died in the streets over there.  There wasn't a thing the Embassy could do for her.

However, I always had decent dealings with the Sikhs.  They were OK in my book.