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7/14/2002 10:30:30 AM EDT
Jesus verses Allah.

Well, Jesus is more accurate and better built, but you can throw  a handful of mud into Allah and it will still work.  I hear the killing power of
Jesus is awesome, and he carries more rounds for a lighter combat load.  Allah's rounds penetrate better though.

It's a tough call.


Balming
7/14/2002 10:33:20 AM EDT
[#1]
[:K]
7/14/2002 10:36:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Jesus.  KO.  Third round.
Allah's got a lot of power and he's a dedicated fighter, but Jesus has the brains and skill to work in close.
7/14/2002 10:36:55 AM EDT
[#3]
shouldn't you be playing with dynamite or sumthin', cleatus?
7/14/2002 10:45:19 AM EDT
[#4]
[:K][:K][:K][:K][:K][:K][:K][:K][:K][:K]
7/14/2002 11:05:08 AM EDT
[#5]
damn dan you working on getting banned again?

By the way i found some new road side crosses for your collection [:D]
7/14/2002 11:22:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Leave it to inferior religions to bring lesser gods to a god fight. THOR is your answer! As for Hey Zeus, he dont ever have a chance, daddy makes him keep his balls in the pouch.
7/14/2002 11:39:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Jehovah, kicks both of their asses.
7/14/2002 11:55:17 AM EDT
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Jehovah, kicks both of their asses.
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Nawww..... he was just a [b]witness[/b] to the whole fight..... not a participant.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! [:D]
7/14/2002 12:09:00 PM EDT
[#9]
What? No Kickin Bhudda references?
7/14/2002 12:36:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Why would Jesus fight his Father?

I think you ment Jesus vs. Mohammed.

Allah is simply the Arabic name for God.

7/14/2002 12:55:46 PM EDT
[#11]







beerslayer, not trying to get banned.  Is religon not allowed now?

Balmirooney
7/14/2002 1:05:09 PM EDT
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By the way i found some new road side crosses for your collection [:D]
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Are you serious? Someone steals those things? [:D]

Anyway, my money is on Chtulhu
[img]http://www.rolgame.net/zcthulhu/img/1c.jpg[/img]
7/14/2002 5:03:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Allah may be a word for "god" in Arabic, but which god are they refering to?  It certainly is not the GOD of Jacob Issac and Abraham.

Also, budda, allah, et el... are all dead.  Jesus still LIVES!!!!!!!!!!

[size=6]G  E  T     S  O  M   E!!!!!!![/size=6]
7/14/2002 5:55:20 PM EDT
[#14]
cmon y'all, this was a spoof on the ak vs ar debate!  I thought you guys would run with it.


Balming
7/14/2002 6:10:56 PM EDT
[#15]
But Buddha has the edge in hand-to-hand combat.
7/14/2002 6:22:20 PM EDT
[#16]
Funny topic but not in the way you think,Jesus Vs. him self?

But then again don't you think it should be Yaway Vs. Allah but then thats still God Vs. him self.

Maybe Jesus and Mohammad,yes thats better.


ArmdLbrl,Crap! I did not see your post,better late then nevet I geuss[:\]
7/14/2002 6:56:09 PM EDT
[#17]
[In my best Chicago Accent]Mini Jesus or fullsize Jesus?
7/14/2002 7:04:55 PM EDT
[#18]
My 1/4 MOA Jesus will beat your high capacity Allah.
7/14/2002 7:05:00 PM EDT
[#19]
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No.  If it was that simple, we wouldn't have people flying passenger bombs into office buildings in the name of Allah.  It's so much more than a question of names.

(Personally, I'm agnostic, so Christians & Muslims alike probably think I should burn in hell.)
7/14/2002 7:13:20 PM EDT
[#20]
It depends - are we talking a pre or postban Jesus
7/14/2002 7:18:57 PM EDT
[#21]
[red][size=4]TRICK POST!!!![/size=4][/red]

Its a trick thread, the answer is that Jesus wouldn't have to fight.  Why?  
Allah doesn't exist!  
7/14/2002 7:28:57 PM EDT
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No.
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Yes.

If it was that simple, we wouldn't have people flying passenger bombs into office buildings in the name of Allah.  It's so much more than a question of names.
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Now you're talking about the different teachings of the two.  Or rather, different interpretations of the teachings of the two (alot of "of"  in that sentence.)

Remember, Islam recognices the Old Testament as being the word of Allah, it's just that as the Jewish, they don't particularly buy into the New Testament.

Islam regards Jesus as a prophet, not the Son of God. And they do not regard Muhammad as the Son of God either, just a prophet.

Islam proclaims that there's only one God, but that there are many ways of worship. So originally Islam was the most peaceful of the three faiths (Judeo/Christian/Islam). but as with all religions, there's always a small element that will fuck it up and make the rest of the practitioners look bad (Does the First and Second Crusade sound familiar? There was a lot of blue on blue going on in that cluster f@ck!)

(Personally, I'm agnostic, so Christians & Muslims alike probably think I should burn in hell.)
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And I'll be the guy burning right there next to you. [;)]
7/14/2002 7:29:16 PM EDT
[#23]
I just picked up a beautiful new Ganesha; leupold scope, bipod, mod stock, and flash hider.  Shoots under 1/2 MOA. I have a few other gods, (apollos, buddas, and a bacchus) but none of them are as nice as the Ganesha.



You want inner peace?....[50]...here's your inner peace!
7/14/2002 7:53:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Anyone else see a Cloacina/Mini-14 connection?

I am quite proud of my Eris Kallisti.
7/14/2002 9:36:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Joseph Smith could whip them all.
7/14/2002 11:43:17 PM EDT
[#26]
SKULLWORKS:

"Remember, Islam recognizes the OT as being the word of Allah, it's just that as the Jewish, they don't paticularly buy into the New Testament."
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Scripture:  They don't "buy into" the OT either.  Muslims believe in four God-inspired books: the Torah of Moses (what Christians call the Pentateuch) aka: the 1st 5 books of the OT, written by Moses. They believe in the Zabur (Psalms of David), the Injil (Gospel) of Jesus, and the Quran.  But the Quran is Allah's final word to mankind, so it supersedes and overrules all previous writings.  

So one can see that Muslims leave a lot of the OT out of their teachings.

"Islam regards Jesus as a prophet, not the son of God.  And they do not regard Muhammed as the Son of God either, just a prophet."
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True, however, Islam believes that Christ was only a man equal to Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses, all of whom are below Muhammed in importance.  They don't believe Christ died on the cross either.  
Finally...

"Islam proclaims that theres only on God, but that there are many ways of worship.  So Originally Islam was the most peaceful of the three faiths..."
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Terribly incorrect.  For Islam, there is only one way of worship.  I think you are getting some of Islam's doctrines mixed up.  There are 6 doctrines of Islam:  They are basic doctrines that every Muslim is required to believe.

1.  God,,,,one god named "Allah"
2.  Angels.  Chief angel is Gabriel, who appeared as Mohammed.  Fallen angel named "Shaitan" (which by the way is Hebrew for "Satan")
3.  Scripture (See above)
4.  Muhammed.  28 prophets of Allah.  The last and greatest prophet is Muhammed.
5.  The end times.  Allah will be the judge and each person will be sent to heaven or hell.  Heaven is sensual pleasure (remember the virgin thing???).  Hell is for those who oppose Allah and his prophet, Muhammed.
6.  Predestination.  God has determined what he pleases and no one can change what he has decreed.

Muslims also believe in the 5 pillars of the faith.  (Briefly listed below without explanation due to space constraints:)

1. Statement of belief  2.  Prayers  3.  Alms (tiething)  4. Ramadan  5. Pilgrimage to Mecca.

As far as your statement of Islam being the most peaceful...  The word "Islam" alone means "submission" (to Allah, the God of Muhammed).  Members call themselves "Muslims, meaning "those who submit."

Fact:  90-95% of all the conflicts on this planet today involve muslims fighting non-muslims or each other!  Islam: "Religion of Peace?"

From the Koran itself...

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.  Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and thake them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire.  (Koran 69:30-37)

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them.  (Koran 8:12)

They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides.  (Koran 5:33)

Know that paradise is under the shades of swords.  Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol 4 p.55

"Islam...Religion of Peace???"

We are not at war with Islam....but bet your ass, Islam is at war with us!!!!!!!!  
7/15/2002 12:45:03 AM EDT
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So one can see that Muslims leave a lot of the OT out of their teachings.
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As do a lot of Christians.
Islam regards Jesus as a prophet...
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True, however, Islam believes that Christ was only a man equal to Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses, all of whom are below Muhammed in importance.
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Because Muhammad's teachings were based on those before him, and there hasn't been a prophet of recognition since him. But then again, how many people are sitting locked up in psychwards around the world because they proclaimed themselves to be Jesus? I doubt the Muslims are treating todays "prophets" any kinder.
They don't believe Christ died on the cross either.
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So?
"Islam proclaims that theres only on God, but that there are many ways of worship.  So Originally Islam was the most peaceful of the three faiths..."
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Terribly incorrect.  For Islam, there is only one way of worship.
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Depends on who you talk to. Most of the Muslims that I've met would agree with what I said. However, I do agree with that there are many Muslims who disagree with other forms of worship. But then again, how many different ways of worship do we have within the Judeo-Christian tradition? Shitloads!
1.  God,,,,one god named "Allah"
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Like I said.
2.  Angels.  Chief angel is Gabriel, who appeared as Mohammed.  Fallen angel named "Shaitan" (which by the way is Hebrew for "Satan")
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Same as OT then.
5.  The end times.  Allah will be the judge and each person will be sent to heaven or hell.
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Same as in OT then.
6.  Predestination.  God has determined what he pleases and no one can change what he has decreed.
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Many Christians think this way too. So no big difference there.

(cont)
7/15/2002 12:45:36 AM EDT
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As far as your statement of Islam being the most peaceful...  The word "Islam" alone means "submission" (to Allah, the God of Muhammed).  Members call themselves "Muslims, meaning "those who submit."
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Just as Christian means someone who believes in Christ. Your point is...?
Fact:  90-95% of all the conflicts on this planet today involve muslims fighting non-muslims or each other!
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Paramount word being TODAY! I said, "So originally Islam was the most peaceful of the three faiths..." Also, all of these conflicts are NOT based on religion. Land is usually why they fight.
Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and thake them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)
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Close to "Thou shalt have no other gods before me..." The first of the Ten Commandments. [;)]
Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire.  (Koran 69:30-37)
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Taken out of context, so I have no clue what to say other than that you can find plenty of juicy stuff like that in the Bible.
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them.  (Koran 8:12)
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Eh, you wanna read Ezekiel 25,1-17 and tell me that's a bedtime story?
"Islam...Religion of Peace???"
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Like I already said - "..originally..." I believe I was quite clear on that Christianity has been just as violent (if not more) than Muslims have.
We are not at war with Islam....but bet your ass, Islam is at war with us!!!!!!!!
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No, [b]some[/b] Muslims are at war with the rest of the world. The majority of them do not want to fight "us". Are you telling me that all American Muslims are going to kill everyone around them and then commit suicide because they are Americans and therefore deserve to die?
7/15/2002 1:08:29 AM EDT
[#29]
I thought that George Bush senior banned Allah and Jesus.

I hope his son doesn't do anything anti-constitutional.

7/15/2002 7:44:00 PM EDT
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No.  If it was that simple, we wouldn't have people flying passenger bombs into office buildings in the name of Allah.  It's so much more than a question of names.

(Personally, I'm agnostic, so Christians & Muslims alike probably think I should burn in hell.)
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As an Agnostic, Hell does not exist for you...so  you're off the hook.

7/15/2002 7:54:46 PM EDT
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Al·lah

God, especially in Islam.

The name of the Supreme Being, in use among the Arabs and the Mohammedans generally.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

n : Muslim name for God [syn: Allah]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University