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4/13/2012 9:08:57 AM EDT
Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.



I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.




My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?




Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks




Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th
4/13/2012 9:10:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Sight changes are GTG for production.
4/13/2012 9:11:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Fiber Optic sight is fine.
Feel free to IM with any other questions.
4/13/2012 9:14:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys
4/13/2012 9:15:24 AM EDT
[#4]





Quoted:



Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.






I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.







My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?







Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks







Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th



there is a list of approved modifications for production division. Stuff like changing sights and internal work (so long as they don't affect the gun's safety mechanisms)  is fine





The only thing you need to do during your first match is to be safe and follow the RO's commands.





 
4/13/2012 9:19:20 AM EDT
[#5]
Externally - sight changes and grip tape (there are limits...just on the grip is fine). You are allowed to change the slide release to a standard version if you wish.

Internally - Trigger must retain all safeties (Glock). IIRC, a 4 lb trigger pull minimum is still on the books for 2013.

Mag holders and holster must not be further forward than your hip bones.
4/13/2012 9:33:48 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks, I didn't know the thing about the hip bones.





4/13/2012 9:37:14 AM EDT
[#7]
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.
4/13/2012 9:43:55 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.


What's the reason for the part in red?  Heavier bullet = lesser felt recoil?
4/13/2012 9:46:29 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  



Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.



One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.


I'm in the USA, I thought about the 147's, thanks for the advice

 
4/13/2012 9:46:49 AM EDT
[#10]
USPSAHandgun Competition Rules
USPSAHandgun Rules, January 2008 Edition • i PRINCIPLES ... Appendix D4 - Production Division ... to complete and must require 1 mandatory reload. 1.3 USPSA ...

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf · PDF file
4/13/2012 9:47:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.

I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.

My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?

Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks

Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th


As mentioned, sight changes are okay.  The rest of it need to remain stock.  You will need to download your mags to 10 rounds for production.  I would recommend getting a G35.  In production, you will have to shoot Minor powerfactor.  If you decide you want to shoot limited, the G35 would allow you to shoot major powerfactor wheras you would still have to shoot minor with a 9mm.  That is a disadvantage unless you are freakishly accurate.  If you plan on getting a different gun altogether to shoot limited, then go with the G34.
4/13/2012 9:50:01 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.

I'm in the USA, I thought about the 147's, thanks for the advice  


And remember, never ever put a mag in your front pocket.
4/13/2012 10:00:49 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.

I'm in the USA, I thought about the 147's, thanks for the advice  


A lighter recoil spring and subsonic 147s work great it the G34, definitely increased the accuracy of my doubletaps.

4/13/2012 10:04:01 AM EDT
[#14]
http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-rules.php

Not trying to be a dick, but the rules will give you all the info you need.
4/13/2012 10:10:21 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.

I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.

My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?

Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks

Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th


As mentioned, sight changes are okay.  The rest of it need to remain stock.  You will need to download your mags to 10 rounds for production.  I would recommend getting a G35.  In production, you will have to shoot Minor powerfactor.  If you decide you want to shoot limited, the G35 would allow you to shoot major powerfactor wheras you would still have to shoot minor with a 9mm.  That is a disadvantage unless you are freakishly accurate.  If you plan on getting a different gun altogether to shoot limited, then go with the G34.


Not true.

You can also add grip tape to any area below the slide and you can change out internal springs and parts and quite a few other things. I don't think there is a 4lb trigger pull limit now either as someone said above.

USPSA Rules
4/13/2012 10:42:53 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Thanks, I didn't know the thing about the hip bones.




Dont worry, they'll tell you.
Wish you posted before getting the 9. I'd recommend the 40 so you can shoot both Limited(less BS on rules) and Production class.
4/13/2012 10:47:43 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Thanks, I didn't know the thing about the hip bones.









Dont worry, they'll tell you.

Wish you posted before getting the 9. I'd recommend the 40 so you can shoot both Limited(less BS on rules) and Production class.
I haven't ordered it yet, all I've ordered is a comp tac holster and 2 double mag pouches, they will work with 34/35.



I'm clueless on this, what would be better about the 35 for limited?





 
4/13/2012 10:49:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.


What's the reason for the part in red?  Heavier bullet = lesser felt recoil?


You nailed the short version.  Most use 147s.  They have to travel faster than 850 FPS for USPSA - which is easily done.  

Atlanta Arms competition load is a 147grn Zero JHP at between 875 and about 925 FPS depending on the gun. Many describe that load out of the long Glock 34 as feeling slightly stronger than a .22, but not by much. Still, a JHP 147 @ 900+ FPS is not uncommon for defensive 9mm loads.

In other "divisions" where 40 cal is required, the typical bullet weight is 180 and some use 200 grain bullets in 40 cal.  Heavier = less felt recoil for the same power factor.

4/13/2012 10:51:16 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.

I'm in the USA, I thought about the 147's, thanks for the advice  


RIF.  Its friday after a long week & I need a beer.  

Good luck to you!  I will warn you that USPSA can be very addictive.  Pleas post an "after action" report if you would not mind.

4/13/2012 10:54:02 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks, I didn't know the thing about the hip bones.




Dont worry, they'll tell you.
Wish you posted before getting the 9. I'd recommend the 40 so you can shoot both Limited(less BS on rules) and Production class.
I haven't ordered it yet, all I've ordered is a comp tac holster and 2 double mag pouches, they will work with 34/35.

I'm clueless on this, what would be better about the 35 for limited?

 


More points on targets(Major PF) and you can put any option on your gun except a comp and red dot. Also gun and mags and can be located in front of your hip(inc in your mouth).
4/13/2012 11:16:14 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.

I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.

My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?

Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks

Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th


As mentioned, sight changes are okay.  The rest of it need to remain stock.  You will need to download your mags to 10 rounds for production.  I would recommend getting a G35.  In production, you will have to shoot Minor powerfactor.  If you decide you want to shoot limited, the G35 would allow you to shoot major powerfactor wheras you would still have to shoot minor with a 9mm.  That is a disadvantage unless you are freakishly accurate.  If you plan on getting a different gun altogether to shoot limited, then go with the G34.


Not true.

You can also add grip tape to any area below the slide and you can change out internal springs and parts and quite a few other things. I don't think there is a 4lb trigger pull limit now either as someone said above.

USPSA Rules


Last I read on Enos, it was in the works for 2013 (but not for this year).

4/13/2012 11:27:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Watching a lot of videos, that texas star target looks like a bitch
4/13/2012 11:33:56 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Watching a lot of videos, that texas star target looks like a bitch


Yes and what can make things worst is if you hit the plate on the edge and it fails to fall. This is where the heavier bullet can make  the difference.

I would love for my club to buy two TS so we can line them up
4/13/2012 11:41:20 AM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Watching a lot of videos, that texas star target looks like a bitch




Yes and what can make things worst is if you hit the plate on the edge and it fails to fall. This is where the heavier bullet can make  the difference.



I would love for my club to buy two TS so we can line them up



I plan on going balls out with this, Guess I need to save up and buy a Texas Star so I don't embarass myself









 
4/13/2012 11:41:52 AM EDT
[#25]
Another question, do all the classes shoot together, or do people shoot whenever and then



it just shows their class in the scores?
4/13/2012 11:45:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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Watching a lot of videos, that texas star target looks like a bitch


Yes and what can make things worst is if you hit the plate on the edge and it fails to fall. This is where the heavier bullet can make  the difference.

I would love for my club to buy two TS so we can line them up

I plan on going balls out with this, Guess I need to save up and buy a Texas Star so I don't embarass myself



 


Just have fun and dont worry! Instead of buying a TS. pratice on small paper plates.
4/13/2012 11:46:19 AM EDT
[#27]
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Another question, do all the classes shoot together, or do people shoot whenever and then

it just shows their class in the scores?


Together and the scores are seperated later.
4/13/2012 11:50:04 AM EDT
[#28]





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Watching a lot of videos, that texas star target looks like a bitch






Yes and what can make things worst is if you hit the plate on the edge and it fails to fall. This is where the heavier bullet can make  the difference.





I would love for my club to buy two TS so we can line them up





I plan on going balls out with this, Guess I need to save up and buy a Texas Star so I don't embarass myself












 






Just have fun and dont worry! Instead of buying a TS. pratice on small paper plates.



I've got an actiontarget hostage target, what are the sizes of the score zones?

 






I guess I could just paint the circle size of the 5 point area on the target and shoot at that?

 
4/13/2012 11:54:09 AM EDT
[#29]
Humm, not sure.  Go to the range this weekend and ask for a target. I'm sure they give you one. You might have to ask for two of the different types Metric and Classic
4/13/2012 11:58:21 AM EDT
[#30]
http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2010HandgunRulesProof3web.pdf

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/nroi_rulings.php

Any post and notch sight will be fine.

4/13/2012 11:59:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Externally - sight changes and grip tape (there are limits...just on the grip is fine). You are allowed to change the slide release to a standard version if you wish.

Internally - Trigger must retain all safeties (Glock). IIRC, a 4 lb trigger pull minimum is still on the books for 2013.

Mag holders and holster must not be further forward than your hip bones.


Thant's gone now.
4/13/2012 12:05:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
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Luckily the 34 is optimized for Production Division (little needs to be done).  

Being in Canada, you might be under IPSC rules as opposed to USPSA - but there are exceptions of course.

One "modification" you might consider is to use 147 grn ammo if you can find/load it.  Most find it easier to shoot 147s fast & accurate than other loads.

I'm in the USA, I thought about the 147's, thanks for the advice  


And remember, never ever put a mag in your front pocket.


That's been changed.
4/13/2012 12:05:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Sorry for all the newb questions,



but is there a standardized distance for the torso targets?




Trying to figure out at what distance I should practice out
4/13/2012 12:08:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Sorry for all the newb questions,

but is there a standardized distance for the torso targets?

Trying to figure out at what distance I should practice out


From your muzzle, out to 50 yards.  

There is no "standard" distance. Typically, from 3yards to 25ish...
4/13/2012 12:15:26 PM EDT
[#35]
I've never shot USPSA, but I have shot IDPA. My first match I was pretty nervous, but after the first stage I felt a lot better.



Just go out there and focus on having fun and being safe. The rest will come to you.



As far as the Texas star, don't sweat it. Take your time, aim your pistol and shoot the thing. You'll be fine.



If somehow you get shuffled to the front of the line, ask if you can be moved back so you can watch others run the stage. I assume USPSA will allow that. New shooters are allowed to do that at the IDPA matches I've been to.



Good luck!


 
4/13/2012 12:21:26 PM EDT
[#36]
This is my second year.  ohh.  It's addicting
4/13/2012 12:27:12 PM EDT
[#37]
Brianenos.com will become you friend.  Way way more info there than here.
4/13/2012 12:29:32 PM EDT
[#38]
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Brianenos.com will become you friend.  Way way more info there than here.


Yeah BUT they dont have the same type of "Sense of Humor" as here!
I use my same user name and avatar here and there
4/13/2012 1:50:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Thanks for all the advice, you guys helped a lot.



I ordered a holster and 2 double mag pouches, I'm getting a Glock 34 and I have eye/ear pro,




Anything else I need?
4/13/2012 1:58:42 PM EDT
[#40]
The only other thing I could recommend would be to buy a CR speed belt. What type of mag pouches did you buy?
4/13/2012 2:04:20 PM EDT
[#41]





Quoted:



The only other thing I could recommend would be to buy a CR speed belt. What type of mag pouches did you buy?


I know Blade-Tech is highly recomended, but I have other Comp-Tac stuff so I thought I'd try these out



I got 2 of these:

 











And this, but for G34/35:






 
4/13/2012 2:05:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Is the belt a necessity, or will my leather belt work? I have a good leather belt that I got for CC



If its needed I'll probably go ahead and order one
4/13/2012 2:18:17 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Is the belt a necessity, or will my leather belt work? I have a good leather belt that I got for CC

If its needed I'll probably go ahead and order one


Try it at home. Toss the gun in the holster on there and at least 5 mags loaded with 10 rounds and see if you feel the belt you have is stiff enough to be comfortable and keep things from flopping around. If you feel it'll work then give it a try at a match.

I use a CR Speed belt in Production.
4/13/2012 2:19:06 PM EDT
[#44]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.



I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.




My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?




Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks




Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th


there is a list of approved modifications for production division. Stuff like changing sights and internal work (so long as they don't affect the gun's safety mechanisms)  is fine



The only thing you need to do during your first match is to be safe and follow the RO's commands.

 
This. Shoot several matches before buying gear.





 
4/13/2012 2:35:38 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Is the belt a necessity, or will my leather belt work? I have a good leather belt that I got for CC



If its needed I'll probably go ahead and order one




Try it at home. Toss the gun in the holster on there and at least 5 mags loaded with 10 rounds and see if you feel the belt you have is stiff enough to be comfortable and keep things from flopping around. If you feel it'll work then give it a try at a match.



I use a CR Speed belt in Production.
Sounds good





 
4/13/2012 10:37:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Disclaimer, I have never shot USPSA but I found a club that's not too far that does it so I'm going to start.

I'm ordering a comp-tac belt holster, 2 double mag pouches, and a glock 34.

My question is, to shoot production does that mean I can't do anything at all to the gun?

Just wondering if I can put a fiber optic front sight on my G34. Thanks

Also, any tips would be appreciated, I don't want to look like an ass come May 6th

there is a list of approved modifications for production division. Stuff like changing sights and internal work (so long as they don't affect the gun's safety mechanisms)  is fine

The only thing you need to do during your first match is to be safe and follow the RO's commands.
 
This. Shoot several matches before buying gear.

 


This!

You NEED a gun, a holster ($5 used Uncle Mikes will do) 4 or 5 mags (a couple cheap pouches and back pockets work fine for mag holders), and a stout belt that goes through at least 3 pants belt loops.

Don't spend any extra money until you shoot a few matches.