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3/21/2012 7:23:10 PM EDT
I read through my employers policy and they don't mention anything about NOT carrying in the work place.

I've heard "talk" that it's a no go but yet they don't write it into their policy book.

Am I treading deep waters if I carry?
3/21/2012 7:26:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Concealed means concealed.
3/21/2012 7:27:58 PM EDT
[#2]



I would imagine that it would depend on the views of your boss and your HR department.

Even if it wasn't mentioned in the employee handbook, they can find another reason to get rid of you if they desire.

I grew up in Minnesota so I don't need to tell you that they're not exactly a bastion of conservative thinking.


3/21/2012 7:39:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:



I would imagine that it would depend on the views of your boss and your HR department.

Even if it wasn't mentioned in the employee handbook, they can find another reason to get rid of you if they desire.

I grew up in Minnesota so I don't need to tell you that they're not exactly a bastion of conservative thinking.



I can agree with that.

I'm curious as to how fast they would write up a policy after terminating my ass and I'm out unemployment.
3/21/2012 7:44:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Send an anonymous email as a "potential employee" asking what their policy is
3/21/2012 7:45:40 PM EDT
[#5]
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Send an anonymous email as a "potential employee" asking what their policy is


Sounds like a great way to get them to make a policy against it if there isn't already one.
3/21/2012 7:46:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
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Send an anonymous email as a "potential employee" asking what their policy is


Sounds like a great way to get them to make a policy against it if there isn't already one.


Yeah, Very true.
3/21/2012 7:54:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Send an anonymous email as a "potential employee" asking what their policy is


Sounds like a great way to get them to make a policy against it if there isn't already one.


Yeah, Very true.


Bad idea.

I'd just do it. If it's not in their book, do it. If it is, in the book......... Concealed means concealed.

3/21/2012 7:58:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Shut up and not tell anyone if decide to and dont ask about it or be prepared for something to be ammended soon.
Other than some office shooting or you having a heart attack or something there's really no reason to be found out.
3/21/2012 8:04:21 PM EDT
[#9]
I carried at all my jobs before I went to work for myself.  I never told anyone.  I just kept a 342ti in deep cover.  Who cares about their rules?  I need to go home to my family.
3/21/2012 8:56:05 PM EDT
[#10]
MN is questionable depending on where you live, my old company when I lived there had a no firearm policy in the handbook and all the doors, then we started making parts for Daniel Defense, BCM, and VLTor, it was amazing how fast the anti gun signs on the doors disappeared, but it was still in the handbook. I still carried, I can always find another job, hard to find another life, I am not a cat, concealed is concealed no one ever knew I carried. I agree if they don't like it and find out, you aren't going to have a job for some other reason even if it's not for the gun, I would just keep your mouth shut about it, and continue as usual. If you have the ability to move there are lots of jobs in your neighboring state of ND, and we are more gun friendly. One of the reasons I moved, although I still am a MN resident, as I am not paying out of state license fees to hunt/fish on my own land in MN.
3/21/2012 8:57:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Concealed means concealed.


Yep

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3/21/2012 9:09:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Just do it.  Be aware that if it ever become less than 100% concealed, you probably just lost your job and won a bad reference.

3/21/2012 9:13:40 PM EDT
[#13]
It is quite simple, what do you value more? Your life or your job?
3/21/2012 9:32:27 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Send an anonymous email as a "potential employee" asking what their policy is


LOL, worst advice ever.



 
3/21/2012 9:34:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Do you have a gun and carry method that is virtually undetectable short of a TSA screening?  If so, you know what to do.  If not, I'd find something that is before you decide to start.
 
3/21/2012 9:43:15 PM EDT
[#16]
ive worked for companies where id loose my job if i carried.... but they never noticed the Seecamp .32 in my pocket
3/21/2012 9:48:59 PM EDT
[#17]
I am required to carry at work.
3/22/2012 3:29:42 AM EDT
[#18]
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I am required to carry at work.


I'd get fired if I didn't carry at work  
3/22/2012 3:38:47 AM EDT
[#19]
I think its generally looked down on if they catch you with a gun in the secure areas of the airport..
 
3/22/2012 3:40:13 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Concealed means concealed.


Unless they frisk you before work I would/do carry.  What they don't know and all that....
3/22/2012 3:48:08 AM EDT
[#21]
The last company I worked for had no policy until they allowed the company they bought to call the shots. The new policy said no weapons or dangerous object of any kind.



1)I never signed the new policy

2)If I did I wouldn't be able to do my job because my tools are dangerous objects

3)I didn't really care if they found out and fired me





The job I'm working now has no stated policy but I'm a 1099 contractor so the employee handbook wouldn't apply to me anyways. The problem is we might be moving to a new office soon and that office is posted "No Carry" . That isn't  a problem back in VA but where I am now signs have some legal weight.



I can't wait to get home.
3/22/2012 3:52:49 AM EDT
[#22]
If you are not sure of the company policy you need a small, deep  concealment, gun and holster to carry while you are at work.

Compromise and discretion.
3/22/2012 3:54:34 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Concealed means concealed.


Yep
3/22/2012 4:30:01 AM EDT
[#24]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I am required to carry at work.




I'd get fired if I didn't carry at work




This and that.
3/22/2012 5:27:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
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I am required to carry at work.


I'd get fired if I didn't carry at work  


Me too, both of my jobs!  Sux...
3/22/2012 5:30:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Wasn't in our policy until last year. Told the boss that "Sure, I would get right on that." and ignore it...
3/22/2012 5:40:34 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Concealed means concealed.


As long as it is not against policy and you keep your yap shut you should be fine.
3/22/2012 9:29:38 AM EDT
[#28]
my boss carries and I know 2 others do to



there are 7 employes other than the boss


 
3/22/2012 6:32:01 PM EDT
[#29]
I have a Glock 26 and a Crossbreed Supertuck.
3/22/2012 6:49:33 PM EDT
[#30]
after a particularly tense evening at the club where i work (during which i was not carrying), i started wearing the 229/supertuck behind the bar at my last job (legal in TX).  a few weeks later, we had another potential problem, and the owner said "shit––if that guy brings a shotgun in here, we're fucked." it may have been bad opsec, but the guy is a friend, so i told him that if that happened, he needed to take cover, call 911, and let me take care of it.  took him a second, and then he asked me how long i'd been carrying at work.  i told him "since the day after the last problem."  his response?



"you asshole––why didn't you tell me?  i've been giving myself an ulcer that someone might come in here shooting."



to which i replied...



"giving yourself an ulcer?  why not 'buying yourself a pistol?'"






 
3/22/2012 7:06:27 PM EDT
[#31]
I work in a warehouse in North East Minneapolis. So I'm typically standing and bending all day long.
3/22/2012 7:09:54 PM EDT
[#32]
There are very few employers that would be okay with you carrying whether it's written or not.  Most companies I think have a policy written so that they have a paper trail to follow if you get caught.  They can show cause if they have it documented.

3/22/2012 7:11:21 PM EDT
[#33]
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I work in a warehouse in North East Minneapolis. So I'm typically standing and bending all day long.


What does the location of the warehouse in the city have to do with bending and standing all day?  
3/22/2012 7:13:46 PM EDT
[#34]
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I work in a warehouse in North East Minneapolis. So I'm typically standing and bending all day long.


What does the location of the warehouse in the city have to do with bending and standing all day?  


Sorry, Vague post, was vague.
3/22/2012 7:16:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Hard to conceal with scrubs....

We have "security" for when issues arise.
3/22/2012 7:19:25 PM EDT
[#36]
We have no security or anything like that.
3/22/2012 7:24:59 PM EDT
[#37]
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We have no security or anything like that.


By "security" I mean clowns that failed out of the academy or weren't even let in for one reason or another.
3/22/2012 7:28:16 PM EDT
[#38]
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We have no security or anything like that.


By "security" I mean clowns that failed out of the academy or weren't even let in for one reason or another.


I see what you meant.
3/22/2012 7:33:36 PM EDT
[#39]
I say carry concealed and don't stress it
3/22/2012 7:38:05 PM EDT
[#40]
It's not really an important job to me anymore. It's more bullshit now than anything.

It would mean less stress if I lost it.
3/22/2012 7:55:58 PM EDT
[#41]
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We have no security or anything like that.


By "security" I mean clowns that failed out of the academy or weren't even let in for one reason or another.


1. why do you have to down on security? Its a legit job, and its better than Obama voters cashing in a welfare check.  
2. Hospital security is some of the best trained and best paid private security in the business,


This is coming from someone from who used to be security before becoming LEO.
3/22/2012 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Concealed means concealed.


3/22/2012 9:21:36 PM EDT
[#43]
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2. Hospital security is some of the best trained and best paid private security in the business,




I am sure they are. Just not here.
3/22/2012 9:35:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Also realize that whatever company you work for most likely values the fact of them not getting sued over you shooting some one, they could really careless if you die and they have to pay the death benefits, workers are cheap and replaceable, but you may view your own life differently.

I work security in the hospital while we are the best trained in our company. to work in the hospital you either have to be in or former military, former LEO, or made it through the academy or trade school for Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement.  We are not the best paid, or well not paid like the police are. I am back in school for something related, but enjoy my job right now.
3/23/2012 2:35:37 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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We have no security or anything like that.


By "security" I mean clowns that failed out of the academy or weren't even let in for one reason or another.


1. why do you have to down on security? Its a legit job, and its better than Obama voters cashing in a welfare check.  
2. Hospital security is some of the best trained and best paid private security in the business,


This is coming from someone from who used to be security before becoming LEO.


I don't know about that bud...
3/23/2012 2:43:17 AM EDT
[#46]
My dad can't carry at work and is within 10 feet of criminals the majority of the time.



ETA: I don't carry to school. I value my education far more than my life.
 
3/23/2012 2:46:00 AM EDT
[#47]



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So I'm typically standing and bending all day long.



Bend at the knees.



 
3/23/2012 2:49:12 AM EDT
[#48]




Quoted:

It is quite simple, what do you value more? Your life or your job?


Yep. When push comes to shove and you actually need to protect yourself, you won't give a damn about your current job because you won't be able to get another job if you're dead.



Besides, what's the worst that could happen if they find out? Fired with bad reference? So what? Get another job... stay safe.
3/23/2012 2:59:22 AM EDT
[#49]

My company has provisions in the employee manual specifically prohibiting "weapons" or ammunition on company property.

What they don't know...

3/23/2012 3:50:18 AM EDT
[#50]
My work has a "No Weapons" policy.

Given the state of the suburbs of Detroit, I am seriously thinking

about carrying also. People are fucking nutz nowadays.

When I first moved here I carried all the time but now I am complacent and that scares me.
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