Posted: 3/8/2012 11:22:50 AM EDT
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As we all know the wait time for the ATF is beyond ridiculous, so today I decided to write my representative. Don't know if it will do any good, but I have two stamps pending and the wait is ridiculousness. Maybe if enough of us write congressional action can be taken. There is no reason that after paying $200 for a stamp that I should have never had to pay for in the first place, I should have to wait more than 6 months.
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Quoted: A waste of time, and dangerous if you have an antigun rep. No politician is going to touch 'speeding up the process' to get suppressors into the hands of the public. Some may even be surprised it's legal. My rep, while a democrat, is pretty good on guns. He gets a A+ from the NRA. ETA: Is Mike Michuad (D-ME)
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It's been almost a month since I started the process on an out of state Mac, and I haven't even heard from my local dealer. Dealer to dealer transfer, too.
There's an old guy here in his 80s. Korean war vet. In "fair" health. He was asking me about the lawful way to acquire a suppressor. I honestly was tempted to advise him to just ignore the law, considering he's old enough that his health could be significantly reduced to the point that he would actually be INCAPABLE of enjoying the purchase by the time he could lawfully take possession of it. |
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I write them and ask which part of the Constitution allows the NFA. The taxing part Then how is the 86 MG legal? A court said so. Edit the 86 "ban" is not part of the NFA The NFA was written to specfically comply with possible court rulings on the Second Amendment Why didn't Congress and FDR ban machine guns completely in 1934? Most of them wanted to |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I write them and ask which part of the Constitution allows the NFA. The taxing part Then how is the 86 MG legal? A court said so. Edit the 86 "ban" is not part of the NFA The NFA was written to specfically comply with possible court rulings on the Second Amendment Why didn't Congress and FDR ban machine guns completely in 1934? Most of them wanted to My understanding of the constitutionality of the NFA (Miller v US) was that it was grounded in the militia clause of the second amendment, not the commerce clause as would be expected. The case never really made sense to me. |
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I write them and ask which part of the Constitution allows the NFA. The taxing part Then how is the 86 MG legal? A court said so. Edit the 86 "ban" is not part of the NFA The NFA was written to specfically comply with possible court rulings on the Second Amendment Why didn't Congress and FDR ban machine guns completely in 1934? Most of them wanted to There were discussions among those involved in writing the NFA and the Att General. It was acknowledged that a pure ban would not pass 2nd Am muster in the courts, but that they could tax and regulate. In case you didn't know, the $200 tax stamp was more than most people made in a year. It was unaffordable to the general public, but large corporations (who also got a pass on the LEO signoff, another NFA feature designed to keep guns out of the hands of us little people) could easily afford it. After all, they contributed mightly to the politicians in charge and they needed machineguns to mow down striking coal miners and steel workers. The original version of the NFA also banned handguns, but the outcry of WOMEN who said they needed them for self defense got that removed. |
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They've started playing games about approving those idiotic 5320.20 (interstate transport) forms too. Looks like someone needs to take a round turn on their ass again. They are also playing games with the C&R licenses too. It now takes 6 months for RENEWAL.  . It only took 3 months for my original license.
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I write them and ask which part of the Constitution allows the NFA. The taxing part Then how is the 86 MG legal? http://www.constitution.org/2ll/court/fed/us_v_rock_island.htm It's not but the Gov't decided not appeal the case to a higher level. 
In sum, since enactment of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o), the Secretary has refused to accept any tax payments to make or transfer a machinegun made after May 19, 1986, to approve any such making or transfer, or to register any such machinegun. As applied to machineguns made and possessed after May 19, 1986, the registration and other requirements of the National Firearms Act, Chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code, no longer serve any revenue purpose, and are impliedly repealed or are unconstitutional. Accordingly, Counts 1(a) and (b), 2, and 3 of the superseding indictment are
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I don't usully do this but........
Dupe This is one of those threads that are welcomed as dupes. I actually got a call back from one of my Senator's staffers today based on one of these letters. Of course they support my position. I doubt they call people they disagree with. It was still a nice gesture. 
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Quoted: This actually could be addressed as a revenue issue. How could a member of Congress vote against a bill that allows the government to speed up collection of a tax? This is an excellent point. I'm getting worried, because I'm planning a move in a few months and I'm afraid I won't have all my stamps by then. |
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This actually could be addressed as a revenue issue. How could a member of Congress vote against a bill that allows the government to speed up collection of a tax? I don't know about the reality of that. BATF has no issue cashing checks almost immediately after they receive them. It isn't a situation where they don't get the money until they have sent the stamp. |
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This actually could be addressed as a revenue issue. How could a member of Congress vote against a bill that allows the government to speed up collection of a tax? This is an excellent point. I'm getting worried, because I'm planning a move in a few months and I'm afraid I won't have all my stamps by then. ATF has no problem rapidly cashing your check it's issuing the stamp that seems to take them forever, so I'm not sure this will help. 
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