Posted: 3/4/2012 2:54:20 PM EDT
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Saw a relatively old globe at church today.
I realized rather quickly it wasn't current by a long shot. I'm curious if there's any websites that could help me to determine the actual age of the globe. Czechoslovakia was unified and Austria wasn't a part of Germany. However Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were part of the USSR (Marked on the map as Estonia SSR , Latvia SSR , Lithuania SSR). There was a finish exclusion zone with the USSR (Marked Finish SSR). Overall it was a bit confusing to me being laid out like this. On top of that there were plenty of non existant countries - Belgan Congo , Western French Africa, Anglo East Africa, Siam, indo-china and so forth. Figuring The finnish territory & statement that Latvia , Lithuania and Estonia were SSRs , I'm thinking 1939 , but am confused by unified Czechoslovakia and a existent Austria. |
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Look at India and see the name of some cities then look below:
Mumbai (formerly Bombay, renamed in 1995) Chennai (formerly Madras, renamed in 1996) Kolkata (formerly Calcutta, renamed in 2001) Vadodara (formerly Baroda, renamed in 1974) Kadapa (formerly Cuddapah, renamed in 2005) Kanpur (formerly Cawnpore, renamed in 1948) Thiruvananthapuram (formerly Trivandrum, renamed in 1991) Kochi (formerly Cochin, renamed in 1996) Jabalpur (formerly Jubbulpore, renamed in 1947) Puducherry (formerly Pondicherry, renamed in 2006) |
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Assuming that you don't get lucky and find a year stamped on the globe, here are things to look for. Estonia SSR, Latvia SSR, Lithuania SSR indicate that the earliest date for this globe is 1940 and French West Africa was dissolved in 1960 so that gives you roughly a 20 year time range. "Austria wasn't a part of Germany" - This probably won't help much... some globes/maps made between 1938-1945 show Austria as a part of Germany, some still showed it as a sovereign nation. "Czechoslovakia was unified" - Also, this won't help much.... again, some 1939-1945 globes/maps showed Czechoslovakia as a separate nation, some showed it missing the Sudetenland, and some showed it all as a part of Germany. (By unified, I assume you are not referring to them being separated into Czech Republic/Slovakia, which didn't happen until the 1990s) Here is the wikipedia page that lists the country name changes in Africa, which should help you nail down a date if it is between 1955 and 1960. Here are other things to look for, but don't rely on a single one to give you a firm date as some mapmakers didn't update all the changes exactly when they happened for various reasons: -Check to see if Libya is indicated as being Italian. (Libya was Italian through 1943, under various stages of allied occupation through 1951, and sovereign in 1951) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Libya -Check to see if Tannu Tuva is still separate from the USSR. This was a small independent nation between Mongolia and the USSR from 1921 until it was annexed by the USSR in 1944... although I have seen some pre-1944 maps that already showed it as part of the USSR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic -Look at the borders of Poland and of Germany and see if they are the prewar or post-1945 borders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_Poland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_changes_of_Germany -Look in the pacific to the east of the Philippines, is the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands present? That was established in 1947 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_Territory_of_the_Pacific_Islands -What does Korea look like? One country? Divided exactly at the 38th parallel? Or divided at the post-1953 DMZ? -What does Sakhalin look like? (That's the long island running north/south to the north of Japan) It was divided in half between Japan and the USSR up until 1945. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin#Divided_island University of Texas has a great online library of maps, including historical maps. You may get additional info there if needed. http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/index.html Tag for pics and the eventual answer. |
| In the barracks-style dorm building at my school they have a map large enough to take up a whole wall. I realized something was off about it and started seeing old colonies that I knew about, such as the colonial names for what are not independent African countries, as well as older city names (such as using the Wade-Giles romanization for Chinese city names; Beijing is Peking, Nanjing is Nanking, etc.). Lookng at it I figured it was from the late 1950s or early 1960s. When I looked everything up it was from 1963. |
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I got my google on and found a wiki article that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_border_changes_since_World_War_I This one http://www.replogleglobes.com/howOldIsYourGlobe.php looks pretty good as well |
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Quoted: Saw a relatively old globe at church today. I realized rather quickly it wasn't current by a long shot. I'm curious if there's any websites that could help me to determine the actual age of the globe. Czechoslovakia was unified and Austria wasn't a part of Germany. However Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were part of the USSR (Marked on the map as Estonia SSR , Latvia SSR , Lithuania SSR). There was a finish exclusion zone with the USSR (Marked Finish SSR). Overall it was a bit confusing to me being laid out like this. On top of that there were plenty of non existant countries - Belgan Congo , Western French Africa, Anglo East Africa, Siam, indo-china and so forth. Figuring The finnish territory & statement that Latvia , Lithuania and Estonia were SSRs , I'm thinking 1939 , but am confused by unified Czechoslovakia and a existent Austria. That's the Karelo-Finnish SSR, which only existed from 1940 to 1956. The fact that it's shown along with the Baltic SSR's and an independent Austria means that it's a postwar map. The date is between 1945 and 1956. To narrow it down further, check if present-day Zambia, Zimbabwe, and Malawi are listed as the "Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland" or the "Central African Federation." If that's the case then the map was made between 1953 and 1956. |

