Posted: 2/15/2012 10:43:33 AM EDT
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I'm looking for a Long Eye relief scope for a 91/30. Thanks to a thread here earlier in the week I have a mount picked out. Now I just need to find a n appropriae scope. I'm looking for a decent fixed power, long eye relief scope. 4x would be great. Anyone have any ideas? |
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Go to Optics Planet & do a search for handgun scopes in 4X & you'll have your list of options.  One thing to be careful of is eye relief range. Many pistol scopes have a minimum eye relief range that is too long for use as a forward mounted scope on a rifle. My advice to the OP is to get a buddy to use a ruler and measure about where the eye piece lens of this scope will be when mounted. Then look for scopes that fall in that range. What is wrong with the Burris 2 3/4x and Leupold 2.5X intermediate eye relief scopes? They have a wide eye relief range like a pistol scope but the minimum and maximum lengths are both shorter than most pistol scopes so they work well for most rifles. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Go to Optics Planet & do a search for handgun scopes in 4X & you'll have your list of options. One thing to be careful of is eye relief range. Many pistol scopes have a minimum eye relief range that is too long for use as a forward mounted scope on a rifle. My advice to the OP is to get a buddy to use a ruler and measure about where the eye piece lens of this scope will be when mounted. Then look for scopes that fall in that range. What is wrong with the Burris 2 3/4x and Leupold 2.5X intermediate eye relief scopes? They have a wide eye relief range like a pistol scope but the minimum and maximum lengths are both shorter than most pistol scopes so they work well for most rifles. I'll check those, thanks |
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Leopold scopes have the widest eye relief ranges. Burris the least. I own both  It's not necessarily the how wide the range is for this application. The important part is whether or not the range is at the right range, so to speak. Having an eye relief range of 12 to 20 inches doesn't do you any good if the scope will be mounted so the eye piece lens is 9 inches from your eye. 12 to 20 inches is not unusual in a true handgun scope and many websites don't give those details. Sometimes you have to go to the vendors website and the info may not even be shown there. I've had to call or email manufacturers before to get the numbers. |
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Leopold scopes have the widest eye relief ranges. Burris the least. I own both It's not necessarily the how wide the range is for this application. The important part is whether or not the range is at the right range, so to speak. Having an eye relief range of 12 to 20 inches doesn't do you any good if the scope will be mounted so the eye piece lens is 9 inches from your eye. 12 to 20 inches is not unusual in a true handgun scope and many websites don't give those details. Sometimes you have to go to the vendors website and the info may not even be shown there. I've had to call or email manufacturers before to get the numbers. The range I'm talking about is the differents between shooting offhand, bench to prone. You set up your scope on the shooting bench and find that you cannot get a good, clear sight picture when shooting while standing and prone |
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Sounds like you are talking about how wide the eye relief range of the scope is and how your face moves a forward and backward depending on the position you are shooting from or the kind of clothes you are wearing.
The eye relief range on the Burris Scout Scope is 8.5 inches to 14 inches according to the Burris website. That should be enough to cover going from prone to standing without any trouble if you have it set up in the proper position on the rifle, which may not be possible on some rifles like the Mosin. The Leupold Scout Scope has an eye relief range of about 9 inches to 17 inches. The range is a bit wider than the Burris but I'm not sure that it is important unless you have your scope mounted WAY out front, like 15 inches or more in front of your eye. The minimum is only a half an inch different while the max is 3 inches different. Contrast those eye relief ranges with a Simmons Prohunter 4x pistol scope. It runs from 11.8 inches to 17.6 inches according to the specs on the Midway website. A Weaver Classic 4x28 pistol scope has a range of 12 inches to 18 inches. You can see where I'm going with this. There are plenty of rifles with scout mounts that will require the scope to be closer to your eye that 11.8 inches, especially if you are wearing a T-shirt and shooting from sitting. A scope with an eye relief range of 6 inches should be able to cover every shooting position and most types of clothing as long as it can be mounted in the right location on the rifle. If the scope is mounted so you are at the minimum eye relief range when you are shooting offhand then you will probably be at less than the minimum when you are shooting from sitting or kneeling. If the scope is mounted so you are at the maximum eye relief when you are sitting then you will probably have your eye too far away when you are standing. There may be a difference in eye relief range between two scope that makes no practical difference depending on how they are mounted i.e. I doubt if the extra 3 inches of eye relief range on the Leupold Scout Scope matters on very many rifles. If you go to a variable power scout scope or pistol scope then things get even more interesting. For example the Nikon 2.5-8x pistol scope has an eye relief range of 12 inches to 30 inches on 2.5x and a range of 9 inches to 13 inches on 8x. That means that there is a sweet spot 1 inch long where you could use the full power range. That is too short of a range to work for all shooting positions and especially if you sometimes wear a heavy coat and other times wear a T-shirt. I wouldn't recommend that scope for use as a scout scope on a rifle although I'm sure it would work great as a pistol scope. That proves my original point: check the eye relief range of the scope before you buy and make sure it is compatible with where you are going to mount it. |