[ARCHIVED THREAD] - New APFT (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/19/2012 10:38:03 AM EDT
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Per the Army times... I know, I know
The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. |
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No joke on the pullups-I was INF for 5 years and there were always a few fatbodies and weaklings. Even active duty Infantry, which always kind of shocked me. These guys were doing the same PT we all did (for the most part)
The really good part about this is that scrawny punks and tubbos will catch a case of act right and hopefully all the broke dicks will get shown the door! At least they aren't doing that yoga shit i read about a while ago... |
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So when is this going to take effect? Three years? Supposedly, end of CY12 Have they figured out a new rifle or uniforms for us yet? I have my doubts. There's already a GD thread on the uniforms. The downselect of potential vendors is done. That may actually happen Don't hold your breath on the rifle. |
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Well looks like tall, skinny, yet moderately strong dudes such as myself are about to SCORE! As a medical person I can tell you that nature likes you and your mesomorphic breatheren. 
I am pure endoMorph thus could smoke push ups and sit ups but had to work on run |
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Per the Army times... I know, I know The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. 60 yard shuttle run This was part of Delta selection PT test 2 minute rower What? standing long jump Also Part of the Delta Selection PT test Dead hang pullups - Was required for Jump School prior to 2006 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program The Army has been talking about this for what 20 years? Personally I think the APFT should be something along the lines of 12 mile road march, obstacle course, and qualify with the M16/M4 at the end more realistic to combat. And before all you Mech. guys say we don’t walk you do when your track or truck breaks down! 
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Per the Army times... I know, I know The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. 60 yard shuttle run This was part of Delta selection PT test 2 minute rower What? standing long jump Also Part of the Delta Selection PT test Dead hang pullups - Was required for Jump School prior to 2006 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program The Army has been talking about this for what 20 years? Personally I think the APFT should be something along the lines of 12 mile road march, obstacle course, and qualify with the M16/M4 at the end more realistic to combat. And before all you Mech. guys say we don’t walk you do when your track or truck breaks down!
Rower is a modified V-up. They are a bitch with proper form |
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Per the Army times... I know, I know The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. 60 yard shuttle run This was part of Delta selection PT test 2 minute rower What? standing long jump Also Part of the Delta Selection PT test Dead hang pullups - Was required for Jump School prior to 2006 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program The Army has been talking about this for w hat 20 years? Personally I think the APFT should be something along the lines of 12 mile road march, obstacle course, and qualify with the M16/M4 at the end more realistic to combat. And before all you Mech. guys say we don’t walk you do when your track or truck breaks down!
My father advocated that (minus rifle qual) as the routine Friday afternoon "weekend warm up" when not in the field. He was sort of old school I'm told 
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Quoted: And before all you Mech. guys say we don’t walk you do when your track or truck breaks down! Call up the wrecker and flatbed it. I don't really have a problem with a change in the PT test - I just wish they would unify the gender standards while they are messing with things.
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No joke on the pullups-I was INF for 5 years and there were always a few fatbodies and weaklings. I weigh 250 pounds. My lifetime max bench was 385, presently I doubt I could do more than 335 for two or three reps. My lifetime curl is 145 on the preacher bench, that's with two hands, presently I finish my sets with 3X3 reps at 125. I doubt I could do a single proper pull up/ chin up. Chin ups are the province of the scrawny teen, not the heavily muscled adult male. Fatbody? Weakling? I can pretty much crush most other males one way or another. Although I suppose they could escape by chin upping their way to safety... |
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Per the Army times... I know, I know The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. 60 yard shuttle run This was part of Delta selection PT test 2 minute rower What? standing long jump Also Part of the Delta Selection PT test Dead hang pullups - Was required for Jump School prior to 2006 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program The Army has been talking about this for w hat 20 years? Personally I think the APFT should be something along the lines of 12 mile road march, obstacle course, and qualify with the M16/M4 at the end more realistic to combat. And before all you Mech. guys say we don’t walk you do when your track or truck breaks down!
My father advocated that (minus rifle qual) as the routine Friday afternoon "weekend warm up" when not in the field. He was sort of old school I'm told Now I feel old! 
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MOS specific PT test 88M tire lift, sprint to truck, etc if you're 4'10" 90lbs and cant change a tire pick a different MOS MOS specific get way too complicated, and what do you do when the Army reshuffles the MOS’s every 4-5 years? So you were an x ray tech but we combined them and you are now all combat medics? (they did this a few years back so in line units you were getting medic’s who had no line experience and had been in a Hospital their entire careers) |
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MOS specific PT test 88M tire lift, sprint to truck, etc if you're 4'10" 90lbs and cant change a tire pick a different MOS MOS specific get way too complicated, and what do you do when the Army reshuffles the MOS’s every 4-5 years? So you were an x ray tech but we combined them and you are now all combat medics? (they did this a few years back so in line units you were getting medic’s who had no line experience and had been in a Hospital their entire careers) Plus, would you hold those 68Ws ("Health Care Specialists" aka Medics) who work in a hospital to the same standards as the line medic? If so, then do you hold the the 68X (Mental Health Specialist), the 68D (Operating Room Specialist), and the 68P (Radiology Specialist) who work next door to the same standards? They have a bit of overlap sometimes in hospitals... why would you boot a good hospital 68W who doesn't match the field 68W standards, but keep the guys he works next door who do the exact same number of reps, but happen to be in a different "softer" MOS? No. One standard. I don't even like the age differences, but they're pretty established, and there's no way they're going away. |
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No joke on the pullups-I was INF for 5 years and there were always a few fatbodies and weaklings. I weigh 250 pounds. My lifetime max bench was 385, presently I doubt I could do more than 335 for two or three reps. My lifetime curl is 145 on the preacher bench, that's with two hands, presently I finish my sets with 3X3 reps at 125. I doubt I could do a single proper pull up/ chin up. Chin ups are the province of the scrawny teen, not the heavily muscled adult male. Fatbody? Weakling? I can pretty much crush most other males one way or another. Although I suppose they could escape by chin upping their way to safety... They'll lose many more than 50k if they enforce that. Odly enough they didn't weigh or make me pass a PT test when they called me up after 9.5 years in the IRR. They had another guy there that was called back after 13 years IRR. Month and half later I developed pain in back and loss of strength to left tricep. It took two months to diagnose nerve damage at my 7th vertebrae. I was sent back home as I had lost all strength in left tricep. The orders said "not medically related." 
30%VA disability but I could still trim 3 full sized horses in one day on my dad's farm that summer. 99% of the soldiers who were going through class for my MOS would have a 2 week profile if they could tried trimming one full sized horse. |
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IRR is our way of avoiding having to draft people.
We can kick everyone out, then when we actually need an Army, call them all up from IRR. Bam, instant trained fighting force that costs little to keep during peace. All you have to do is fuck some people over. 
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Per the Army times... I know, I know The new test is now comprised of: 60 yard shuttle run 2 minute rower standing long jump Dead hang pullups - This was 1 min of pushups in the initial rollout of the new test program 2 mile run - This was a 1.5 mile run in the initial rollout of the new test program Cutting 50,000 troops from the active component doesn't seem all that hard anymore. There are a ton of soldiers that couldn't do 1 pullup if their lives depended on it. I can do 20 chin ups, but suck something aweful at running. I cant wait for the cardio guys to suck hind tit at this new setup. |
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MOS specific PT test 88M tire lift, sprint to truck, etc if you're 4'10" 90lbs and cant change a tire pick a different MOS 4'10" 90 lbs wouldn't be able to carry all the crap they are issued to and from the truck in a Humint Intell Team... Chiropracter at Ft. Benning said he had a little blonde MP about that size and he could see all kinds of bone spurs and skeletal problems from the body armor and weapons and equipment toting. |
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MOS specific PT test 88M tire lift, sprint to truck, etc if you're 4'10" 90lbs and cant change a tire pick a different MOS MOS specific get way too complicated, and what do you do when the Army reshuffles the MOS’s every 4-5 years? So you were an x ray tech but we combined them and you are now all combat medics? (they did this a few years back so in line units you were getting medic’s who had no line experience and had been in a Hospital their entire careers) So I should do a bunch of exercises to ward off carpal tunnel? |
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When they called me back in beside the guy out for 13 years we had a retiree who was just coming in to do the graves registry job. He figured he could help out in that way because he had already done it durring vietnam and didn't want someone to get stuck with it if it was too depressing for them.
Probably a bunch of expertise in IRR for specific job slots that have nothing to do with PT scores but it would require coordination and consideration. |
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Aww fuck. I'm absolutely terrible at anything that requires you to balance on your ass. I have no ass, I have oddly heavy legs, and no upper body weight. This means I can do a shit ton of sit-ups, but not many rowers or V-ups, and I'm pretty bad at flutter kicks. |
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I literally have no ass, so i do them on one cheek since my tailbone isnt steel. I have a big chest so its hard to do them .
Its whatever. Who knows what the standards will be. Good thing PRT works so well. The Bend and Reach, starting position, move. In cadence! |
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I'm not in the Army but am I the only wackjob that was always way better at pullups than pushups? Maybe I should go see a recruiter now. Are you doing them right? Most people don't. It's full extension down. Controlled movement to up. Pause. Full extension down. Pause. One. Most people go 3/4 down, jerk up, fall back to 3/4 down, one, jerk up-ish, fall back to 3/4 down... |
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No joke on the pullups-I was INF for 5 years and there were always a few fatbodies and weaklings. I weigh 250 pounds. My lifetime max bench was 385, presently I doubt I could do more than 335 for two or three reps. My lifetime curl is 145 on the preacher bench, that's with two hands, presently I finish my sets with 3X3 reps at 125. I doubt I could do a single proper pull up/ chin up. Chin ups are the province of the scrawny teen, not the heavily muscled adult male. Fatbody? Weakling? I can pretty much crush most other males one way or another. Although I suppose they could escape by chin upping their way to safety... Excuses, excuses. There's a vid floating around of a (now deceased) 300LB STRONGMAN doing 21 dead hang pullups. Jesse something. Look it up. |
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Aww fuck. I'm absolutely terrible at anything that requires you to balance on your ass. I have no ass, I have oddly heavy legs, and no upper body weight. This means I can do a shit ton of sit-ups, but not many rowers or V-ups, and I'm pretty bad at flutter kicks. After looking further into that Training Circular, (TC-22.20Aug2010, download Here), I seriously don't see even a 40% pass rate on that program. 
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