Posted: 1/8/2012 9:53:59 AM EDT
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Where would I list a fellowship on a resume? Work experience? Education? Something else? |
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I've done a lot of shit so far in my life, but every one I know who has worked in HR said unless you have some executive level jobs/experience under your belt, keep your resume under one page. HR people are fucking lazy and don't like going through resumes. This is correct!! I have seen Fellowships under both Work Ex. as well as Education. Because they are a mix of both unless you are a Doc in which case it should be in Work Ex. |
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my resume is 4 pages long.
I am not an executive. Been a test lead for quite a number of years now. only worked for 7 or 8 places. First page is a list of key words hr looks for. saying I have this skill. the rest of the pages are about 1/4 to 1/2 a page on each job. first part is a description of the company, next is highlights of what I did for them to make them better, and then a description of the job and work. last page and only a qtr of it is education. within each job description I use a different key word or tricky phrase to describe the same thing in the first list. This gets you by the automated hr screeners. This doesn't mean it always works, but it is hard to tell in this environment. I was out of work for 6 months couple of years back when I changed to this format. put out well over 200 resume's. Got back like 20 calls. of those I got like 15 interviews face to face. Didn't get those jobs, but for other reasons. Finally got one through networking. The fact is it got me in the door. blowing the interview, or lacking the knowlege was my own fault. |
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Quoted: my resume is 4 pages long. I am not an executive. Been a test lead for quite a number of years now. only worked for 7 or 8 places. First page is a list of key words hr looks for. saying I have this skill. the rest of the pages are about 1/4 to 1/2 a page on each job. first part is a description of the company, next is highlights of what I did for them to make them better, and then a description of the job and work. last page and only a qtr of it is education. within each job description I use a different key word or tricky phrase to describe the same thing in the first list. This gets you by the automated hr screeners. This doesn't mean it always works, but it is hard to tell in this environment. I was out of work for 6 months couple of years back when I changed to this format. put out well over 200 resume's. Got back like 20 calls. of those I got like 15 interviews face to face. Didn't get those jobs, but for other reasons. Finally got one through networking. The fact is it got me in the door. blowing the interview, or lacking the knowlege was my own fault. In my opinion, 4 pages is waaayyy too long. All of the books I have read on this topic would strongly disagree with a 4 page resume, unless you are an exceptionally accomplished individual...and even then. My dad was the VP of marketing for a very, very large multinational and did a ton of other things, and I don't think his resume is more than 3 pages. |
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my resume is 4 pages long. I am not an executive. Been a test lead for quite a number of years now. only worked for 7 or 8 places. First page is a list of key words hr looks for. saying I have this skill. the rest of the pages are about 1/4 to 1/2 a page on each job. first part is a description of the company, next is highlights of what I did for them to make them better, and then a description of the job and work. last page and only a qtr of it is education. within each job description I use a different key word or tricky phrase to describe the same thing in the first list. This gets you by the automated hr screeners. This doesn't mean it always works, but it is hard to tell in this environment. I was out of work for 6 months couple of years back when I changed to this format. put out well over 200 resume's. Got back like 20 calls. of those I got like 15 interviews face to face. Didn't get those jobs, but for other reasons. Finally got one through networking. The fact is it got me in the door. blowing the interview, or lacking the knowlege was my own fault. Sounds more like a CV than a resume. You must work in an unusual field if 4 pages is normal. |
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I thought CV and resume were pretty much synonymous... The rule used to be one page period unless you're really special, but lately I've heard that after 20 years or whatever that two pages is ok. The "HR is lazy" thing holds true regardless. Generally, a CV needs to cover everything, and is not job-targeting specific. Resumes are more targeted, and have to be shorter for the HR laziness thing (and there is no reason for any one to have one over 2 pages, really, IMO). A CV should list all jobs you have held, education, etc. |
| As one who has hired and fired dozens of people, anyone with a one page resume is hiding or omitting information. At a minimum the abbreviated resume has to edit out something to make it fit. Many times I find important information such as specific computer skills or foreign language get cut out. I don't care how long a resume is so long as it answers my questions. |
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As one who has hired and fired dozens of people, anyone with a one page resume is hiding or omitting information. At a minimum the abbreviated resume has to edit out something to make it fit. Many times I find important information such as specific computer skills or foreign language get cut out. I don't care how long a resume is so long as it answers my questions. I agree. I have seen guys "forget" and leave off there military "experience" because they never made it through their enlistment. If they can bullshit their way onto the job they'll be around the campfire telling horror stories about the Army or whatever. Somebody pulls their rez and busts them out, its priceless. |
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As one who has hired and fired dozens of people, anyone with a one page resume is hiding or omitting information. At a minimum the abbreviated resume has to edit out something to make it fit. Many times I find important information such as specific computer skills or foreign language get cut out. I don't care how long a resume is so long as it answers my questions. All resumes are abbreviated, and omit information. Do you want an autobiography? I would fill 5 pages just listing educational certs for jobs I had in the '90s, 90% of which would have zero relevance to you or what I do now. If computer skills or foreign language skills are relevant, I would list them. I wouldn't list irrelevant job or education experience, such as a cut-short military enlistment, or a course I never completes. Who would? Why would a "rez" bust someone out? Not listing irrelevant experience is not the same as claiming experience you do not have. |
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1-2 pages depending on your age.
Should look something like Contact info (mailing, phone, email) etc brief profile of yourself, the whole "goal" thing is considered obselete education (institution, major/minor/conenctration GPA and any notable activities, coursework, certifications) if you're over 25 and have at least a BA or you have a Masters, just leave your high school off, no one cares. work (go back maybe 2 jobs, no one cares about your lawn mowing job in high school if it's not relevant). Aside from your skills, list your ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Spin it to make yourself sound good. skills and certifications (software you know how to use, foreign languages, etc) Military guys. I see a lot of vets with very long resumes, usually listing a dozen or more schools or training certs and every rank they've held. To the unfamiliar eye it may look confusing and actually get an HR person thinking you're overqualified. Put the 3 or 4 big ones and then sell your accomplishments like commendations or situations where you've been given responsibilities above your rank. |