Posted: 12/25/2011 9:33:23 PM EDT
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Ie, the kind one has incase they get knocked over, to have the crooks take the less worthy.......and not bother to look for the others.
Have any? For me, while it has been a concept, it's something I haven't gone for yet. All the guns I buy are for a purpose and my connections are not such to buy junk guns. But if one were to do that, what kind? Rugers and Kahrs. What's on sale at the sporting goods store at the end of the year? Go to the gun show and see if there is anything cheap (of course, it's not cheap, there's someone with an expectation selling it). ________________________________________________________________________________________________ ("There's no one aboard, Lord Vader. The log shows that the crew used the escape pods right after take off. This must have been a decoy."––imperial deck officer, (w,stte), "Star Wars") |
| I guess I kind of have decoy guns, I have both a safe and a glass display case, the only guns I keep in the glass display case is one of my HD long guns, a few .22s to grab if I go plinking/pest control, my skeet gun and a few air rifles, Oh there is also my .222 Remington 725, I need to stick that back in the safe, those suckers are rare/$$$. |
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Well, curiously enough, this is not my original idea.
Some other AR15er mentioned it a year or two when we were talking about safes. Further, we are talking about decoy guns, not throwdown guns. While the "supply depot" for the latter might be used for the former, it's not the same in reverse....especially when one's name can be tracked to the serial number. As is, even my cheapest guns don't qualify since while I may have gotten them inexpensively, they are still nice to have. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ ("Ah, a harmless toy."––Scaramanga putting his six shooter down on Nick Nack's tray, (w,stte), "The Man with the Golden Gun") |
| I see where your coming from and I like the concept. My father always kept a cash register out in the open with a few 100 in it. He was robed twice and both times then never seen. or tried to get into the safe with the real money in it. It was only a few feet away. The crooks figured they hit the jackpot and took off quick, |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea 
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS Two primary reasons. First of all, I don't have a supply line for these types of guns. Secondly, in order to be an effective decoy, it has to be believed and further, if it is recognized as a decoy, then it may tell them to look for the real stuff. How might the decoy fail? Well, for one thing, if it looks like it never gets out of the vault. If I have, say, a drill M1903 (and I'd say the Mosin is in the same category) and they miss the welds, other things might tip them off that this is not "the real thing", such as either a careless care of something that should be very special or for something so special, "what's it doing here in the broom closet? (so to speak))". How smart are thieves? Well, at least, some smarter than others. ______________________________________________________________________________ ("When we first tracked the key, it took a light years positional shift. Yet those crown jewels don't look like they've seen the light of day in a century. The key may be in that case, but it's not disguised as the crown jewels."––The Doctor, (w,stte), Dr. Who, "The Ribos Operation") |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. Maybe, if Sherlock Fucking Holmes gets the case. |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. Maybe, if Sherlock Fucking Holmes gets the case. Don't joke about that. Holmes is a bad mutha fucka. |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. When's the last time you bought a gun without looking through the barrel first? |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. As stated, doing it this way is not a viable plan. Having a drill M1903 is one thing; buying a working gun, sabotaging it especially if it is done in a way that it can still chamber ammo, placing it in a place where if someone does break in, they will hopefully take it................sounds a lot like a booby trap in one's house and people have been known to go to jail for that. This is not a viable course of action, especially if it falls into the hands of a zealous, antigun attorney. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ ("Did you or did you not, call my client, infront of her children, a "Ho Ho Ho"!?––attorney at Santa's sexual harassment trial, (w,stte), a Christmas cartoon) |
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Put some inexpensive "fudd guns" in a display case and keep your ARs in the safe.
* keep a list of serial numbers with make and model of all firearms. If a thief takes your any of your guns, such information will help the police to catch the thief and return your guns back to you. |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. You won't go to prison for that. Its your gun in your house, nothing illegal about demilling it. What law might they charge you with ? It is possible you'd get sued. |
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So... you have decoy guns, functional, and the bad guys steal them and then use them to kill someone, does that make you feel better that your "good" guns are locked up? Well, we aren't talking about leaving them out in plain, unsecured view. We are talking about having them locked up in some way, just not as fortified as the really "good" stuff. Quoted:
You won't go to prison for that. Its your gun in your house, nothing illegal about demilling it. What law might they charge you with ? It is possible you'd get sued. Isn't there? I mean, really, when one considers the various ATF regulations around? These days, wrong or right, a simple conversion might possibly land one into a heap of trouble. One of my "nightmares" is that I will come to a surprise party, someone will say, "Traci, we have a surprise for you! We took your Norinco Uzi and made it look like an Israeli one!" (say put a folding stock on it)......and I will just go pale in stark horror, refusing to even touch it. Now, I'm not an ATF regs expert, but basically, any conversions to be done to any gun that I might have.....I leave to a professional gunsmith. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ ("I don't get it. I called up Mr. Jordan (the man who hired him) to say we have to talk and he screamed and hung up."––Norm, the corporate ax man, (w,stte), "Cheers") |
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Hit the pawnshops and gunshows for bargains on used firearms. Do it in January, alot of people are selling such things to pay bills. Any tips or such you can mention about shopping at pawn stores? It is something I've never done before, only bought from gun stores and shows. _________________________________________________________________________________________ ("Man, that watch is so hot, it's smokin'."––Pawnbroker, (w,stte), "Trading Places") |
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I pretty sure if you welded a slug in there, they would have a tough time sueing, If it was in your house and stolen, pawned and then some one gets hurt because you made the gun unfirable, I think most of blame would be on the owner for not checking the barrel before firing.
So do people get sued when your car gets stolen, and then sold to dirty used car salesman, and then sold to someone else, they get in an accident, and now you get sued, I don't see that working in court as screwed up as the system is there are limits. |
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If theives break into your place, they only spend a minutes in your place, they won't have time figure out what kind of gun until they are long gone.
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS Two primary reasons. First of all, I don't have a supply line for these types of guns. Secondly, in order to be an effective decoy, it has to be believed and further, if it is recognized as a decoy, then it may tell them to look for the real stuff. How might the decoy fail? Well, for one thing, if it looks like it never gets out of the vault. If I have, say, a drill M1903 (and I'd say the Mosin is in the same category) and they miss the welds, other things might tip them off that this is not "the real thing", such as either a careless care of something that should be very special or for something so special, "what's it doing here in the broom closet? (so to speak))". How smart are thieves? Well, at least, some smarter than others. ______________________________________________________________________________ ("When we first tracked the key, it took a light years positional shift. Yet those crown jewels don't look like they've seen the light of day in a century. The key may be in that case, but it's not disguised as the crown jewels."––The Doctor, (w,stte), Dr. Who, "The Ribos Operation") |
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Why not some Mosins that have a plug in the chamber so they cant function? Why not some Hipoints with a Slug JB Welded in the barrel about 2" past the chamber?????????? -SS I like that idea
you must also like prison. what id the thief sells it to a pawn shop, then a fellow arfcomer buys it? or they fence it at a gun show? short sighted plan, and one that could kill a innocent person, or ruin you financially and put you in prison if it is traced back to you. which you just admitted to liking the idea on a PUBLIC internet forum,. When's the last time you bought a gun without looking through the barrel first? ^ |
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Nagants, Old 22lr rifles, Makarovs, and police trade ins come to mind for decoy guns.
I kind of like the decoy gun idea, especially if one does not have a dedicated, secret gun room. I have too many shooting related items lying around that would tip off any robber that there were guns somewhere on the premises. I would much rather they stop looking when they find the decoys. I also like the suggestion to plug the barrel as other have already stated, a legit gun buyer is going to check the barrel. It is not like you reamed the chamber to create excessive headspace or did something that is not visibly obvious such that an unsuspecting buyer might miss it. |
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How about spending the money on the decoy guns and upping your home security. Alarm Door Jam Armor Safe Dogs Razor Wire Sniper Post Terminators Etc. Don't you know? I'm planning to build a castle on a ranch in the near future! ____________________________________________________________ ("Chase Manhatten Forever!"––battery rammers for the creditors at the door of the Baron's Castle, (w,stte), "Sweet Chasity") |
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How about spending the money on the decoy guns and upping your home security. Alarm Door Jam Armor Safe Dogs Razor Wire Sniper Post Terminators Etc. Don't you know? I'm planning to build a castle on a ranch in the near future! ____________________________________________________________ ("Chase Manhatten Forever!"––battery rammers for the creditors at the door of the Baron's Castle, (w,stte), "Sweet Chasity") Make sure there is a Moat w/ sharks in it. That would be super tough for a robber to get by. Especially is the sharks had lasers on their heads. 
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