[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Equilibrium (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/21/2011 2:36:44 AM EDT
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Still an awesome movie. I don't know why so few people have seen it. "Without love, without anger, without sorrow, breath is just a clock... ticking." |
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it is a great movie! Like the new avatar. And yes, I never understood why so many people here hate that movie. I have always really liked it.  The movie was pretty decent. The issue is the number of derps running around pretending the 'gun-kata' or whatever they use is real, and that they're total Billy Badasses. For making us have to put up with those losers, the movie garners our hatred. |
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it is a great movie! Like the new avatar. And yes, I never understood why so many people here hate that movie. I have always really liked it. The movie was pretty decent. The issue is the number of derps running around pretending the 'gun-kata' or whatever they use is real, and that they're total Billy Badasses. For making us have to put up with those losers, the movie garners our hatred. no it's real!!!!! 
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it is a great movie! Like the new avatar. And yes, I never understood why so many people here hate that movie. I have always really liked it. The movie was pretty decent. The issue is the number of derps running around pretending the 'gun-kata' or whatever they use is real, and that they're total Billy Badasses. For making us have to put up with those losers, the movie garners our hatred. Nobody imitates gun kata... 
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it is a great movie! Like the new avatar. And yes, I never understood why so many people here hate that movie. I have always really liked it. The movie was pretty decent. The issue is the number of derps running around pretending the 'gun-kata' or whatever they use is real, and that they're total Billy Badasses. For making us have to put up with those losers, the movie garners our hatred. It's not?
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I have always thought it was extremely entertaining. But I am in to that sort of movie. when I watch a movie like that I dont expect it to be real or realistic. That being said the gun kata is one of those things like that guy that claims to be a real life jedi. I really feel that if someone were to actually be dumb enough to use the gun kata they will either shoot themselves or some innocent person that is in the wrong place the wrong time.
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The movie is supposed to be surreal, because you're supposed to be questioning the foundation of everything you know, just as the fictional society has imposed a false view of reality on its people, and the people have to go through the same process of questioning their brainwashing. Good practice for our reality, here. |
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it is a great movie! Like the new avatar. And yes, I never understood why so many people here hate that movie. I have always really liked it. The movie was pretty decent. The issue is the number of derps running around pretending the 'gun-kata' or whatever they use is real, and that they're total Billy Badasses. For making us have to put up with those losers, the movie garners our hatred. Nobody imitates gun kata... No one ever tried to curve bullets either. |
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Quoted: I would like to hear more from the people that think this movie is awesome. Please list some more of your favorite movies as well as movies you feel are terrible/overrated. Good: 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, Naked Lunch, 300 Bad: Transformers, any Jack Black movie. |
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Quoted: It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" I laughed at the Gun-Kata, but because I was looking for elements of the classic man-against-the-state novels, I overlooked it. |
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I would like to hear more from the people that think this movie is awesome. Please list some more of your favorite movies as well as movies you feel are terrible/overrated. Good: 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, Naked Lunch, 300 Bad: Transformers, any Jack Black movie. Even Tropic Thunder? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would like to hear more from the people that think this movie is awesome. Please list some more of your favorite movies as well as movies you feel are terrible/overrated. Good: 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, Naked Lunch, 300 Bad: Transformers, any Jack Black movie. Even Tropic Thunder? Haven't watched that one yet. |
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It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" I laughed at the Gun-Kata, but because I was looking for elements of the classic man-against-the-state novels, I overlooked it. There are so many better examples out there: Brazil, V, Gattaca, etc. They take the best of 1984 and Brave New World and at least try not to make it TOO corny. For a decent read, track down Ernst Junger's "The Glass Bees." Great novel about military/Industrial/entertainmet conglomerates and nano-technology -written in the 1950s, while Junger was experimenting with LSD. Junger was the most decorate German of WWI. The Glass Bees (German: Gläserne Bienen) is a 1957 science fiction novel written by German author Ernst Jünger. The novel follows two days in the life of Captain Richard, an unemployed ex-cavalryman who feels lost in a world that has become more technologically advanced and impersonal. Richard accepts a job interview at Zapparoni Works, a company that designs and manufactures robots including the eponymous glass bees. Richard's first-person narrative blends depiction of his unusual job interview, autobiographical flashbacks from his childhood and his days as a soldier, and reflection on the themes of technology, war, historical change, and morality.
In recent years, Jünger's prognostications on the future of technology, variously interpreted as technophobic allegory or insightful critique into the altered relationship between technology, nature, and the human, have received renewed enthusiasm.[1][2] American science fiction writer Bruce Sterling composed an introduction for the New York Review Books edition in 2000, saying that "its speculations on technology and industry are so prescient as to be uncanny." |
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I would like to hear more from the people that think this movie is awesome. Please list some more of your favorite movies as well as movies you feel are terrible/overrated. Good: 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, Naked Lunch, 300 Bad: Transformers, any Jack Black movie. Even Tropic Thunder? Haven't watched that one yet. Watch it. I generally don't go in for comedies and I loved it. Tom Cruise is absofucklutely hillarious in it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" I laughed at the Gun-Kata, but because I was looking for elements of the classic man-against-the-state novels, I overlooked it. There are so many better examples out there: Brazil, V, Gattaca, etc. They take the best of 1984 and Brave New World and at least try not to make it TOO corny. For a decent read, track down Ernst Junger's "The Glass Bees." Great novel about military/Industrial/entertainmet conglomerates and nano-technology -written in the 1950s, while Junger was experimenting with LSD. Junger was the most decorate German of WWI. Will do. I like these because they are different interpretations of what a despotic government tries to take away. One novel takes away art and music and literature, and another takes away simple emotion, and another might take away rational thought. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" I laughed at the Gun-Kata, but because I was looking for elements of the classic man-against-the-state novels, I overlooked it. There are so many better examples out there: Brazil, V, Gattaca, etc. They take the best of 1984 and Brave New World and at least try not to make it TOO corny. For a decent read, track down Ernst Junger's "The Glass Bees." Great novel about military/Industrial/entertainmet conglomerates and nano-technology -written in the 1950s, while Junger was experimenting with LSD. Junger was the most decorate German of WWI. Will do. I like these because they are different interpretations of what a despotic government tries to take away. One novel takes away art and music and literature, and another takes away simple emotion, and another might take away rational thought. ETA - DT. |
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It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" Of course the gun kata is silly. What I found interesting was the orwellian presentation of a government that controls people through not only controlling all media that is allowed but going so far as to try an chemically manipulate people's minds. Libria reminds me of North Korea on steriods...or rather...on emotion suppression pills. The movie was interesting from the perspective of brainwashed people discovering the truth, experiencing tiny liberties and developing a thirst to have more liberty. |
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It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" Gun-Kata isn't anything supernatural, and it's not like anyone can do it. It makes (limited) logical sense. If you had no emotions to restrain you in your studies, and literally your entire job for years was to study gun fights and focus on how people react in them, you'd be able to accurately predict where people will likely take position or cover in a given scenario too. You'd also have an appreciation of where they generally fire at too. It's like ducking or doing a recon by fire now, just much more refined. We know most people will fire high. Well, that's not the reason we duck, but it helps. However, we do try to predict where people will be in a fight. More than once I've known people to fire at a clump of rocks in a mountain pass because that's the most likely place for someone to set up an ambush, and it turned out there was a guy spotting from there or there was an ambush there that now went off half cocked. Gun-kata is the same thing, but in a movie sense. Either way, Gun-kata isn't the main point of the movie, it's just a plot element. The main point of the movie has to do with the "awakening" of the main character and how his views have changed now that he challenged them. |
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It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" This was my reaction. |
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It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" Gun-Kata isn't anything supernatural, and it's not like anyone can do it. It makes (limited) logical sense. If you had no emotions to restrain you in your studies, and literally your entire job for years was to study gun fights and focus on how people react in them, you'd be able to accurately predict where people will likely take position or cover in a given scenario too. You'd also have an appreciation of where they generally fire at too. It's like ducking or doing a recon by fire now, just much more refined. We know most people will fire high. Well, that's not the reason we duck, but it helps. However, we do try to predict where people will be in a fight. More than once I've known people to fire at a clump of rocks in a mountain pass because that's the most likely place for someone to set up an ambush, and it turned out there was a guy spotting from there or there was an ambush there that now went off half cocked. Gun-kata is the same thing, but in a movie sense. Either way, Gun-kata isn't the main point of the movie, it's just a plot element. The main point of the movie has to do with the "awakening" of the main character and how his views have changed now that he challenged them. Nevertheless. Gun-Kata was so damned corny that I believe it killed the ntire movie. I can deal with unrealistic portrayals of firearms employment, but Gun-Kata? TOO damned corny. Again, read Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World." FAR superior. |
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That's one of my favorite movies! So good!! And that William Butler Yeats quote from the movie is one of my favorite quotes also: "Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half-light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." |
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Quoted: Nevertheless. Gun-Kata was so damned corny that I believe it killed the ntire movie... That's funny, I found the Gunkata no more of a "movie killer" than lightsabers, rings of power, wizarding schools, superpowers from genetic mutations, a flying guillotine on a long chain, the five point palm exploding heart technique, or any of a thousand other silly plot devices in movies I have enjoyed over the years –– but then, I've never had a problem suspending disbelief or incredulity for the enjoyment of a movie. Probably why I'm able to enjoy some of the movies ARFCOM seems to hate in general.  (And, FTR, there were plenty of legitimate criticisms to be made about the film in general, that just wasn't one that happened to bother me. I actually found it kind of a fun idea and something kind of "original" in a film that borrowed so liberally from other well-known stories.) |
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The movies more about not forgeting what it means to be human, even if being human means living with war.
The Clerics are supposed to just be monk-jedi types. Even though it's an unrealistic type of gun-fighting I like how they did it, it seperated it from the other 1000 gun fight movies. "I live... to safeguard the continuity of this great society." |
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Quoted: It's one of those movies where you begin watching it and you think, "This movie is AWESOME! Why haven't I heard of it???" Then a few minutes later, you're like, "Wait a minute! WTF? This movie SUCKS! Gun-Kata?? Are you f___ing kidding me?" I skipped that first part. I started off with "Oh wow, I haven't seen *this* story a thousand other times..." |