[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Star Trek: Next Generation Question (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 9/4/2011 1:18:29 PM EDT
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible?
Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. Was the female admiral the head of Star Fleet Intelligence or was she just the next up in Picard's chain of command passing on orders from Star Fleet Command? |
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Ep. Drumhead featured a female starfleet antagonist. i dont remember what exactly she was (not a captain or admiral) but in either case she led some crazy witch hunt for non-existent traitors on the Enterprise until Picard gave her a verbal bitch slap and she went home and stuffed a hyper spanner in her hatchetwound.
There was also a female starfleet officer who ended up being a disguised Romulan spy. lots of female antagonists outside of starfleet too. Of all the weird starfleet conspiracies, though, i don't recall any of them being perpetrated by a space-minority. <shrug> |
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Ep. Drumhead featured a female starfleet antagonist. i dont remember what exactly she was (not a captain or admiral) but in either case she led some crazy witch hunt for non-existent traitors on the Enterprise until Picard gave her a verbal bitch slap and she went home and stuffed a hyper spanner in her hatchetwound. There was also a female starfleet officer who ended up being a disguised Romulan spy. lots of female antagonists outside of starfleet too. Of all the weird starfleet conspiracies, though, i don't recall any of them being perpetrated by a space-minority. <shrug> I remember the witchhunt. Can you remember which episode had the disguised Romulan spy who was female? |
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Ep. Drumhead featured a female starfleet antagonist. i dont remember what exactly she was (not a captain or admiral) but in either case she led some crazy witch hunt for non-existent traitors on the Enterprise until Picard gave her a verbal bitch slap and she went home and stuffed a hyper spanner in her hatchetwound. There was also a female starfleet officer who ended up being a disguised Romulan spy. lots of female antagonists outside of starfleet too. Of all the weird starfleet conspiracies, though, i don't recall any of them being perpetrated by a space-minority. <shrug> I remember the witchhunt. Can you remember which episode had the disguised Romulan spy who was female? no, infact the only reason i remembered it is i recall the scene in Drumhead when Picard is on the hot seat getting by that bitch, and she asks him about the incident before she gets told. iirc it was some kind of weird rendezvous mission and bam, Romulan ships decloak and this bitch transports to one of the Romulan ships with a head full of Starfleet secrets. Now that i think about it it might not have an a SF officer, maybe just crew, or something else. but Female, and "official" or some kind. |
I've discussed this similar subject in the basement with my mother  OK well maybe not the basement, anyway I'm only 35 episodes in and cannot stand how they constantly speak as if they are superior than humans from merely hundreds of years before only to show every human characteristic of pride, selfish ambition, the full gambit of human emotions and flaws, yet don't seem to recognaize it. Kind of ironic, a buddy on fb told me they address this in the series finale that humans really don't change... I don't think liberals understand irony though.
Star trek Is their wet dream, frankly such a society would seem fat, lazy and lethargic. Between teleporters, holodecks, the replicator , AI etc etc I don't see them being anything but lazy spoiled philosophers, he'll theyd probably just be killed off by their AI ala Skynet. 
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Dude, ST-NG is so laced with liberal mantra that if you think hard about any of it you will get pissed off. Just look at 7of 9 like the rest of us. If she had only agreed to be whored out to multiple strangers by her perverted husband; we would have been spared the ignominious Obama regime. 
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. She came to give ol baldy his orders..the villian was..wait for it.. 
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Quoted: I've discussed this similar subject in the basement with my mother OK well maybe not the basement, anyway I'm only 35 episodes in and cannot stand how they constantly speak as if they are superior than humans from merely hundreds of years before only to show every human characteristic of pride, selfish ambition, the full gambit of human emotions and flaws, yet don't seem to recognaize it. Kind of ironic, a buddy on fb told me they address this in the series finale that humans really don't change... I don't think liberals understand irony though. Star trek Is their wet dream, frankly such a society would seem fat, lazy and lethargic. Between teleporters, holodecks, the replicator , AI etc etc I don't see them being anything but lazy spoiled philosophers, he'll theyd probably just be killed off by their AI ala Skynet. Star Trek TNG comes after we beat down the terminators Skynet built. They didn't dare create another one until Lore, then Data, and Lore still killed everyone by way of the crystalline entity. |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. She came to give ol baldy his orders..the villian was..wait for it.. http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/3/36/RikerPressman.jpg A white guy. Exactly, the minute a Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or higher in rank steps aboard the Enterprise there is no question that he will do something bad. It's like "oh no, it's a White Guy Admiral he's going ot screw them." Picard could save everyone a lot of hassle and order that any white guy above the rank of Commander be taken into custody by security the minute they transport onto the ship. |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Despite all of the cultural and technological advances achieved by the time of the 24th century, the turds still floated to the top. At least they got that part right in all of the political undertones. |
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I don't know about that, but I was watching TNG the other day. It was the episode "I, Borg". They had the chance (or so they thought anyway) to destroy the Borg by implanting that unsolvable puzzle with Hugh and sending him back. But then Hugh started to gain a little personality and they decided that wasn't the proper thing to do. It would be better to send him back so the Borg could continue to destroy entire civilizations.
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. She came to give ol baldy his orders..the villian was..wait for it.. http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/3/36/RikerPressman.jpg A white guy. Exactly, the minute a Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or higher in rank steps aboard the Enterprise there is no question that he will do something bad. It's like "oh no, it's a White Guy Admiral he's going ot screw them." Picard could save everyone a lot of hassle and order that any white guy above the rank of Commander be taken into custody by security the minute they transport onto the ship. Let's not forget more honkies gone wild, Captain Benjamin Maxwell 
Vice Admiral Kennelly- 
Vice Admiral Leyton- 
One was even being evil in the Delta Quadrant, Captain Ransom- 
Yep, the honkies are nothing but trouble for Starfleet....... |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. She came to give ol baldy his orders..the villian was..wait for it.. http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/3/36/RikerPressman.jpg A white guy. I remember him, but I thought the one over him, either the admiral in charge of starfleet intellegence or security was a woman. Point taken though, 99.9% of the time if the bad guy is human, its a white guy. |
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Since this is a Star Trek thread i just wanna say if anyone gets the chance watch the movie "The Captains a film by William Shatner"
I just saw it yesterday. If you are a Trekkie, its REALLY REALLY good. I think Shatner has fully embraced his legacy as Kirk. Before this I think he avoided it becuase of the type casting crap. You get to see all the captains of the show have an interview the shatner. It shows him walking around a trek convention surprising fans by coming up right behind them and asking questions, its pretty funny. Plus he interviews the black guy from ds9 Avery Brooks, that guy really is from outer space. He's like colonel Kurtz except instead of military stuff its jazz music. |
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Is it me or every time there is a White male Star Fleet officer who is a Captain or Admiral and isn't a member of the Enterprise crew he turns out to be doing something horrible or planning on doing something horrible? Maybe I'm wrong, but can anyone think of an episode where a female Captain or Admiral was up to no good? I'm sure there has to be one I just can't remember. Well, IIRC in the the episode Pegasus, where they find Will Rikers old starship embedded in an asteroid because it had an experimental phased cloak installed that malfunctioned, the person behind it was a starfleet female admiral. Head of starfleet security I think. She came to give ol baldy his orders..the villian was..wait for it.. http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/3/36/RikerPressman.jpg A white guy. I remember him, but I thought the one over him, either the admiral in charge of starfleet intellegence or security was a woman. Point taken though, 99.9% of the time if the bad guy is human, its a white guy. If I recall correctly, Picard said something about others at StarFleet HQ going to be in trouble, but he did not say who. I was always under the impression that the fiasco of the Cloaking Device was not under her watch, that she was cleaning up someone's mess.. |
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Star Trek has always been a sign of the times, though perhaps delayed by a decade or two. Which explains why there is currently no Star Trek show in production.
] Deep Space 9 may have actually anticipated the political divisions of the Obama administration. I some times wish I could run off and join the Macquis. |
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Quoted: Star Trek has always been a sign of the times, though perhaps delayed by a decade or two. Which explains why there is currently no Star Trek show in production. ] Deep Space 9 may have actually anticipated the political divisions of the Obama administration. I some times wish I could run off and join the Macquis.  I'm not sure what you mean by that. Captian Sisko knew how to command, he could lead troops into hell and they would follow him. No one could say that about Obama.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In the history of start trek there has been what, 1 black officer in command of a starship/space station? There was one in TNG..he was killed when the Yamato was destroyed. 1 and they killed him. There was the black woman starship captain who was trying to warn Picard of the takeover of Star Fleet. |
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. Captian Sisko knew how to command, he could lead troops into hell and they would follow him.
No one could say that about Obama. I see no parallels between Sisko and Obama. I do tend to be some what color blind however. Sisko was competent. Obama is not. The Federation was in the process of disintegration, many capable people joining the Macquis. Riker evem wished them well. Possibly reflecting the fall of the Roman Empire, and possibly reflecting our current situation today. Never confuse a competent man with black skin with an incompetent man with black skin. Incompetence is incompetence, no matter what one's skin color is. For proof, look at Jimmy Carter. |
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In the history of start trek there has been what, 1 black officer in command of a starship/space station?
There was one in TNG..he was killed when the Yamato was destroyed. 1 and they killed him. There was the black woman starship captain who was trying to warn Picard of the takeover of Star Fleet. She was killed too. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In the history of start trek there has been what, 1 black officer in command of a starship/space station? There was one in TNG..he was killed when the Yamato was destroyed. 1 and they killed him. Yep....those evil honkies at Star Fleet. If I'm remembering that episode correctly it was some slug aliens.
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Dude, ST-NG is so laced with liberal mantra that if you think hard about any of it you will get pissed off. Just read the Economics of Star Trek |
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In the history of start trek there has been what, 1 black officer in command of a starship/space station?
There was one in TNG..he was killed when the Yamato was destroyed. 1 and they killed him. Yep....those evil honkies at Star Fleet. If I'm remembering that episode correctly it was some slug aliens. Yea but the host were honkies.
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all i know is Worf is the most worthless security officer in starfleet..... gets his ass kicked EVERY time he is in a fight...... he is the Wussy of Klingons In TNG..yea. But they nutted him up in DS9. He was taking a beating and coming back for more in that Dominion prison camp. |
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all i know is Worf is the most worthless security officer in starfleet..... gets his ass kicked EVERY time he is in a fight...... he is the Wussy of Klingons In TNG..yea. But they nutted him up in DS9. He was taking a beating and coming back for more in that Dominion prison camp. Awesome episode (or couple of episodes). I loved when they first arrived and the real Bashir came in with the beard, obviously had been imprisoned for some time and no one knew. |
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all i know is Worf is the most worthless security officer in starfleet..... gets his ass kicked EVERY time he is in a fight...... he is the Wussy of Klingons In TNG..yea. But they nutted him up in DS9. He was taking a beating and coming back for more in that Dominion prison camp. Awesome episode (or couple of episodes). I have always said the best episodes are the war with the Klingons and the Dominon. |
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all i know is Worf is the most worthless security officer in starfleet..... gets his ass kicked EVERY time he is in a fight...... he is the Wussy of Klingons In TNG..yea. But they nutted him up in DS9. He was taking a beating and coming back for more in that Dominion prison camp. Awesome episode (or couple of episodes). I have always said the best episodes are the war with the Klingons and the Dominon. Plus they had Garek, who was one of the coolest ST characters of all time. Most of the best DS9 episodes were the best because of Garek. |
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The last episodes of Deep Space 9 were really good. Apparently no liberal political overtones, just an attempt to tell a good story.
I like Quark by the way. Capitalism in a midget sized package, with an over dose of testosterone. The Cardassian tailor was also cool. |