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8/30/2011 6:01:33 PM EDT
Anyone else thinking the CMP auctioning off rifles is a little bit out the mission statement of the CMP and why it was started?
8/30/2011 6:02:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Nope.  
8/30/2011 6:11:39 PM EDT
[#2]


The rifles are assets that can be sold or auctioned to fund the CMP marksmanship program.  As such it is somewhat of a negligible burden on the taxpayer and likely to avoid any kind of spending cuts.  I have no problem with rifle sales.  




8/30/2011 6:13:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Sales are there to support their programs.  Auction gets the market value for the rifle, more money for the programs, everybody wins except the guy who wants a discount rifle just because he was at the top of the mail stack that day
8/30/2011 7:48:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Nope
8/30/2011 7:50:43 PM EDT
[#5]
No. The rare stuff isn't going to some schmo who camps out in front of the store. Gotta pay to play.
8/30/2011 7:53:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Tax payers already paid for thoose rifles once. We shouldnt have to pay GUN SHOP prices for them again.
8/30/2011 7:54:05 PM EDT
[#7]
I heard that Orest's long term plan is to get rid of all the surplus rifles eventually and just run the marksmanship competitions.  They will probably have air rifles and rimfires for sale, but I would bet in the next few years that they will no longer be selling Garands, etc.

It may well be that we are seeing the last golden years of being able to buy these surplus firearms from the CMP.  Get 'em while you can.
8/30/2011 7:54:46 PM EDT
[#8]
The days of cheap, good, Garands are over.

There are still nice ones there, but you are going to pay.

No more volunteers with large lunch boxes either.
8/30/2011 7:56:11 PM EDT
[#9]
So if we already paid for them we should now get them for free???
8/30/2011 7:57:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Tax payers already paid for thoose rifles once. We shouldnt have to pay GUN SHOP prices for them again.


Must be nice to find rifles in gun shops with prices as low as the CMP.  Around here all the prices are jacked up.  

Also, the firearms that come into the CMP aren't always ready to put on the shelf.  Lots of times the CMP scavenges some rifles to make complete, safe ones ready for sale.  You're right that we're paying for them twice, but the CMP doesn't just throw a price tag and shelve everything.  There's a bit more to it than that.

8/30/2011 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#11]



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So if we already paid for them we should now get them for free???


YA!  I want my free rifles!!    



I have no problem with them being sold to support shooting sports.  



 
8/30/2011 8:00:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I heard that Orest's long term plan is to get rid of all the surplus rifles eventually and just run the marksmanship competitions.  They will probably have air rifles and rimfires for sale, but I would bet in the next few years that they will no longer be selling Garands, etc.

It may well be that we are seeing the last golden years of being able to buy these surplus firearms from the CMP.  Get 'em while you can.


Wouldn't they eventually run out of them anyway, planned or not?
8/30/2011 8:05:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I heard that Orest's long term plan is to get rid of all the surplus rifles eventually and just run the marksmanship competitions.  They will probably have air rifles and rimfires for sale, but I would bet in the next few years that they will no longer be selling Garands, etc.

It may well be that we are seeing the last golden years of being able to buy these surplus firearms from the CMP.  Get 'em while you can.


Wouldn't they eventually run out of them anyway, planned or not?


Yes, but the rumor is that day is coming sooner than later.  Though, come to think of it, they've been saying that for years now.  FWIW, I think it will be sooner than later.

8/30/2011 8:06:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Anyone else thinking the CMP auctioning off rifles is a little bit out the mission statement of the CMP and why it was started?


You must not get on the web site much...

8/30/2011 8:06:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
The days of cheap, good, Garands are over.


I don't disagree with you but the current CMP prices will beat every LGS in my area all day long even at $495 for a field grade.
8/30/2011 8:09:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I heard that Orest's long term plan is to get rid of all the surplus rifles eventually and just run the marksmanship competitions.  They will probably have air rifles and rimfires for sale, but I would bet in the next few years that they will no longer be selling Garands, etc.

It may well be that we are seeing the last golden years of being able to buy these surplus firearms from the CMP.  Get 'em while you can.


Wouldn't they eventually run out of them anyway, planned or not?


Yes, but the rumor is that day is coming sooner than later.  Though, come to think of it, they've been saying that for years now.  FWIW, I think it will be sooner than later.



Understood.  I guess I'm glad that I got mine then.  A nicer example for several hundred less than the local gun stores/gun shows too.  
8/30/2011 8:11:30 PM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:



Quoted:

The days of cheap, good, Garands are over.





I don't disagree with you but the current CMP prices will beat every LGS in my area all day long even at $495 for a field grade.


This is one reason why dealers don't like it.



Manufactures not liking the competition from overseas is one reason why we have some of the stupid import laws we have.



 
8/30/2011 8:16:11 PM EDT
[#18]





Quoted:





Quoted:


Tax payers already paid for thoose rifles once. We shouldnt have to pay GUN SHOP prices for them again.






Must be nice to find rifles in gun shops with prices as low as the CMP.  Around here all the prices are jacked up.  





Also, the firearms that come into the CMP aren't always ready to put on the shelf.  Lots of times the CMP scavenges some rifles to make complete, safe ones ready for sale.  You're right that we're paying for them twice, but the CMP doesn't just throw a price tag and shelve everything.  There's a bit more to it than that.








Yep. Field grades go for $800 to $900 at the shops here.





 
8/30/2011 8:28:22 PM EDT
[#19]
Just a quick bit of info from Wikipedia for those that think the CMP is still part of the .gov:

From 1916 until 1996 the CMP was administered by the U.S. Army. Title XVI of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996 (Public Law 104-106, 10 February 1996) created the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice & Firearms Safety (CPRPFS) to take over administration and promotion of the CMP.[2] The CPRPFS is a tax-exempt non-profit 501(c)(3) corporation chartered by the U.S. Congress, but is not an agency of the U.S. government (Title 36, United States Code, Section 40701 et seq.). Apart from a donation of surplus .22 and .30 caliber rifles in the Army's inventory to the CMP, the CMP receives no federal funding.
8/30/2011 8:30:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Anyone else thinking the CMP auctioning off rifles is a little bit out the mission statement of the CMP and why it was started?


The rifle sales are for the endowment fund.