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6/27/2011 1:01:36 PM EDT
EPIC v. DHS Lawsuit –– FOIA'd Documents Raise New Questions About Body Scanner Radiation Risks - link

In a FOIA lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security, EPIC has just obtained documents concerning the radiation risks of TSA's airport body scanner program. The documents include agency emails, radiation studies, memoranda of agreement concerning radiation testing programs, and results of some radiation tests.

One document set reveals that even after TSA employees identified cancer clusters possibly linked to radiation exposure, the agency failed to issue employees dosimeters - safety devices that could assess the level of radiation exposure.

Another document indicates that the DHS mischaracterized the findings of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, stating that NIST "affirmed the safety" of full body scanners.

The documents obtained by EPIC reveal that NIST disputed that characterization and stated that the Institute did not, in fact, test the devices. Also, a Johns Hopkins University study revealed that radiation zones around body scanners could exceed the "General Public Dose Limit."

For more information, see EPIC: EPIC v. Department of Homeland Security - Full Body Scanner Radiation Risks (link) and EPIC: EPIC v. DHS (Suspension of Body Scanner Program) (link).


ETA: Slashdot link, seems they are getting hit hard. http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/06/27/2012226/Cancer-Cluster-Possibly-Found-Among-TSA-Workers
6/27/2011 1:02:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Intredasting.
6/27/2011 1:03:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Didnt .Gov and the TSA already tell us sheeple to STFU about radiation from the scanners because they were perfectly safe?

6/27/2011 1:04:38 PM EDT
[#3]
I have always thought the lack of dosimeters to be the most damming evidence of the safety standing of the scanners.
6/27/2011 1:05:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Didnt .Gov and the TSA already tell us sheeple to STFU about radiation from the scanners because they were perfectly safe?



yup..
6/27/2011 1:06:23 PM EDT
[#5]
You've got to be kidding.
6/27/2011 1:08:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Just more govt leeches sucking at our tit. Oh my, I'll never work again, I'll have to be on "workmans comp" for the next 30 years in case it comes back..........................

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of idiots if true.
6/27/2011 1:09:28 PM EDT
[#7]
I was more worried about working around the scanners they use in the baggage areas(I never worked with the backscatter).  Those things use a lot more radiation and I'm not certain they contain it as well as they claim.  






ETA-  I agree with the post above, just someone looking for a free ride most likely.




 
6/27/2011 1:09:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Karma.
6/27/2011 1:10:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Standing next to an x-ray cabinet 40 hours a week with some movable curtains on both ends probably isn't very good for you either.
6/27/2011 1:12:37 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm going to kick my TV  in if I hear the TSA Agents referred to as heroes because of this.
6/27/2011 1:13:10 PM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:


Karma.






 
6/27/2011 1:13:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Just more govt leeches sucking at our tit. Oh my, I'll never work again, I'll have to be on "workmans comp" for the next 30 years in case it comes back..........................

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of idiots if true.


cancer cluster (KAN-ser KLUS-ter)
The occurrence of a larger-than-expected number of cases of cancer within a group of people in a geographic area over a period of time.
6/27/2011 1:15:13 PM EDT
[#13]
They're probably getting it because of the enormous amount of hatred and generally negative thought energy directed at them.





Anyone who'd make a 95 year old cancer patient take off her adult diaper to prove she doesn't have a bomb in it absolutely deserves to die

a slow and horrible cancer death.
6/27/2011 1:15:43 PM EDT
[#14]
I find it interesting that the scanners have only been in place for 1-2 years, and they are already finding suspected cancer clusters? That seems pretty damn quick.
6/27/2011 1:16:28 PM EDT
[#15]
I read somewhere that the machines are ONLY expected to create 6 instances of cancer during their useful life - and that was acceptable.


6/27/2011 1:16:34 PM EDT
[#16]
huh.  go figure.
6/27/2011 1:19:44 PM EDT
[#17]
It's all about sterilizing the population.  That's why the hot chicks get scanned so often.
6/27/2011 1:19:59 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


Didnt .Gov and the TSA already tell us sheeple to STFU about radiation from the scanners because they were perfectly safe?





The .Gov and their TSA puppets need to STFU.  



 
6/27/2011 1:23:26 PM EDT
[#19]
The millimeter wave microwave imaging machines may be even more dangerous than the backscatter x ray machines.  There was a study released a while back which showed that millimeter wave RF exposure within a certain wavelength range (same as used for the machines) caused DNA damage to cells, and was considered a substantial cancer risk.
6/27/2011 1:29:39 PM EDT
[#20]
6/27/2011 1:35:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Are these the shovel ready jobs Obama was talking about?
6/27/2011 1:35:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Karma.


 


6/27/2011 1:39:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Better them than us!
6/27/2011 1:41:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I read somewhere that the machines are ONLY expected to create 6 instances of cancer during their useful life - and that was acceptable.


Say what?
6/27/2011 1:41:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Better them than us!

If they are already seeing cancer from x hours a week over at most 2 years, then I'd expct frequent fliers to be catching cancer too.

Flyer stand IN the scanner and get plasted, TSA stands outside the scanner.
6/27/2011 1:43:16 PM EDT
[#26]
Good, fuck them.


6/27/2011 1:49:41 PM EDT
[#27]
Justice...
6/27/2011 1:49:57 PM EDT
[#28]
6/27/2011 1:52:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Better them than us!

If they are already seeing cancer from x hours a week over at most 2 years, then I'd expct frequent fliers to be catching cancer too.

Flyer stand IN the scanner and get plasted, TSA stands outside the scanner.


Oh I know... still, maybe now they'll have a hard time finding enough 'tards for the job.
6/27/2011 1:53:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Good. Now unplug that BS.  






For the children.
6/27/2011 1:56:09 PM EDT
[#31]


But unlike other things that cause cancer, no one can use the Fed or the manufacture of these machines nor are they going to stop using them.



6/27/2011 1:59:38 PM EDT
[#32]






Well slap my ass and call me Sally!



 
6/27/2011 2:00:48 PM EDT
[#33]
What a shame.  It couldn't have happened to nicer folks.
6/27/2011 2:01:10 PM EDT
[#34]
As much as I'm attracted to the poetic justice in all of this, you know it's BS. It's government employees (and willing attorneys) trying to get PAYED, son!



This is just people milking the government tit for all it's worth, using their (otherwise unfortunate) cancer diagnosis in an opportunistic way.



Is the cancer incidence rate among TSA employees statistically different than the general population, in any substantive way?
6/27/2011 2:01:13 PM EDT
[#35]




Quoted:

Just more govt leeches sucking at our tit. Oh my, I'll never work again, I'll have to be on "workmans comp" for the next 30 years in case it comes back..........................



Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of idiots if true.


this

6/27/2011 2:02:18 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']link


So, I go and click the link, and it comes back with "Error executing error template."

at Epic.org, I'm not finding the story :-\
6/27/2011 2:05:53 PM EDT
[#37]





Quoted:



Are these the shovel ready jobs Obama was talking about?









 
6/27/2011 2:06:41 PM EDT
[#38]



Quoted:


They're probably getting it because of the enormous amount of hatred and generally negative thought energy directed at them.





Anyone who'd make a 95 year old cancer patient take off her adult diaper to prove she doesn't have a bomb in it absolutely deserves to die

a slow and horrible cancer death.


Ironic Karma



 
6/27/2011 2:08:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']link


So, I go and click the link, and it comes back with "Error executing error template."

at Epic.org, I'm not finding the story :-\


Seems like they are getting hit hard with traffic from slashdot

http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/06/27/2012226/Cancer-Cluster-Possibly-Found-Among-TSA-Workers
6/27/2011 2:10:11 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
They're probably getting it because of the enormous amount of hatred and generally negative thought energy directed at them.


Anyone who'd make a 95 year old cancer patient take off her adult diaper to prove she doesn't have a bomb in it absolutely deserves to die
a slow and horrible cancer death.


I like the way you think. There is no more deserving bunch that I can think of.

6/27/2011 2:11:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Better them than us!

If they are already seeing cancer from x hours a week over at most 2 years, then I'd expct frequent fliers to be catching cancer too.

Flyer stand IN the scanner and get plasted, TSA stands outside the scanner.


The machines actually give off more energy on their side lobes.
6/27/2011 2:11:40 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:


I'm going to kick my TV  in if I hear the TSA Agents referred to as heroes because of this.


Maybe they'll get some of that leftover 9/11 money.

 
6/27/2011 2:11:54 PM EDT
[#43]




Quoted:

I find it interesting that the scanners have only been in place for 1-2 years, and they are already finding suspected cancer clusters? That seems pretty damn quick.


that was my first though. With what science has become it probably doesn't matter.

6/27/2011 2:13:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Hopefully this leads to their removal, but don't count on it.  They aren't for safety - they are for the police state and to harm people.
It is scary to acknowledge, but denial is simply naivete.
6/27/2011 2:13:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
The machines actually give off more energy on their side lobes.

Not that I disbelieve you, but "say's who?"

I didn't think there were any public tests of the units.
6/27/2011 2:16:50 PM EDT
[#46]
I hope every single person that works for the TSA, from the screeners to the head of the agency gets cancer from the rape scanners.




6/27/2011 2:18:16 PM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:


I hope every single person that works for the TSA, from the screeners to the head of the agency gets cancer from the rape scanners.





A little harsh?



 
6/27/2011 2:19:58 PM EDT
[#48]




Pick up that can! *beep*
6/27/2011 2:24:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I hope every single person that works for the TSA, from the screeners to the head of the agency gets cancer from the rape scanners.


A little harsh?
 


Nope the sexual predophiles are not fucking dying fast enough IMHO.
6/27/2011 2:26:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Schadenfreude.
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