Posted: 6/19/2011 3:11:26 PM EDT
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yes, to reduce swelling. ETA: which you have to use carefully, if you apply too much pressure it can actually cause swelling by basically shifting the swollen area. this one you can fill with water and freeze, the others are just steel that you put in the freezer. http://www.ringside.com/Professional-Ice-End-Swell/productinfo/IES+1/ |
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"A cutman kneels beside the fighter. His hands dart into a blue plastic bin with a duct-taped handle, filled with the tricks of his trade: a bottle of adrenaline 1:1000, an open jar of Vaseline, towels, gauze, swabs that look like oversize Q-tips and two enswells—flat slabs of steel kept buried in ice. The cutman works quickly even though there's no bell to answer. He knows the fighter wants to be anywhere but here, seen like this. It's more than blood pouring onto the canvas. It's pride, ego, hope. The cutman's job is to keep those things out of the puddle forming between them."
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"A cutman kneels beside the fighter. His hands dart into a blue plastic bin with a duct-taped handle, filled with the tricks of his trade: a bottle of adrenaline 1:1000, an open jar of Vaseline, towels, gauze, swabs that look like oversize Q-tips and two enswells—flat slabs of steel kept buried in ice. The cutman works quickly even though there's no bell to answer. He knows the fighter wants to be anywhere but here, seen like this. It's more than blood pouring onto the canvas. It's pride, ego, hope. The cutman's job is to keep those things out of the puddle forming between them." http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3688085 Adrenaline? |
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Quoted: Tyson fired all his people prior to the Buster Douglas fight back in 1990. His corner actually used a latex glove, filled with water.  actually it was a condom. http://books.google.com/books?id=zQeJ5T9cGoAC&pg=PA373&lpg=PA373&dq=mike+tyson+douglas+condom+water&source=bl&ots=NPWk_jSDck&sig=J6nULo8TndQjPfE3z5yQhI4UIms&hl=en&ei=YIT-TbmOIJKbtwfTmom9Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=mike%20tyson%20douglas%20condom%20water&f=false |
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"A cutman kneels beside the fighter. His hands dart into a blue plastic bin with a duct-taped handle, filled with the tricks of his trade: a bottle of adrenaline 1:1000, an open jar of Vaseline, towels, gauze, swabs that look like oversize Q-tips and two enswells—flat slabs of steel kept buried in ice. The cutman works quickly even though there's no bell to answer. He knows the fighter wants to be anywhere but here, seen like this. It's more than blood pouring onto the canvas. It's pride, ego, hope. The cutman's job is to keep those things out of the puddle forming between them." http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3688085 Adrenaline? Strong vasoconstrictor. 1:1000 is damn dangerous. That's what you use in cardiac arrest. I am surprised a cut man has access to that. |
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Quoted: "A cutman kneels beside the fighter. His hands dart into a blue plastic bin with a duct-taped handle, filled with the tricks of his trade: a bottle of adrenaline 1:1000, an open jar of Vaseline, towels, gauze, swabs that look like oversize Q-tips and two enswells—flat slabs of steel kept buried in ice. The cutman works quickly even though there's no bell to answer. He knows the fighter wants to be anywhere but here, seen like this. It's more than blood pouring onto the canvas. It's pride, ego, hope. The cutman's job is to keep those things out of the puddle forming between them." http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3688085 I figure the Vaseline is for helping punches slide off of the face and slowing bleeding, what is the adrenaline for? I wouldn't think it'd be kosher to shoot your fighter up with adrenalin during a fight to help them keep going. Edit- addressed already. Wouldn't ever think adrenalin would stop bleeding |
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A well trained boxer twists his fist at the moment of impact - this adds a "tear" component to the effect of the punch. The Vaseline minimizes the skin torque from that twist, lessening the chance of a cut. There is some help in slipping punches, but that only works if the fighter has already gotten mostly out of the way. |
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The real question, is boxing dead? Mma seems to have killed it. As the original question has been answered, this is a worthy hijack. Yes. MMA is to boxing as Hardcore porn is to Cinemax. Although it saddens me, this sees to be the truth. RIP "Sweet Science"
I may be in the minority but I prefer boxing. MMA is cool and all but when the bouts turn to wrestling I tend to lose interest. Maybe I should watch more MMA. I may develop more interest. |
2010 Top PPV buys, boxing and MMA ...1. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley, May 1, 1.4 million buys 2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito, Nov. 13, 1,150,000 buys 3. UFC 116: Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin, July 3, 1,100,000 buys 4. UFC 114: Quinton Jackson vs. Rashad Evans, May 29, 1,050,000 buys 5. UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez, Oct. 23, 1,000,000 buys 6. UFC 124: Georges St. Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck, Dec. 11, 785,000 buys 7. UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Dan Hardy, March 27, 770,000 buys 8. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey, March 13, 700,000 buys 9. UFC 107: Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen, Aug. 7, 600,000 buys 10. UFC 118: Frank Edgar vs. B.J. Penn/Randy Couture vs. James Toney, 535,000 buys |
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The real question, is boxing dead? Mma seems to have killed it. As the original question has been answered, this is a worthy hijack. Yes. MMA is to boxing as Hardcore porn is to Cinemax. as well as PPV. hopefully MMA moves to network tv eventually and the UFC starts it's own cable channel kind of like the NFL network |
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The real question, is boxing dead? Mma seems to have killed it. As the original question has been answered, this is a worthy hijack. Yes. MMA is to boxing as Hardcore porn is to Cinemax. Although it saddens me, this sees to be the truth. RIP "Sweet Science"
I may be in the minority but I prefer boxing. MMA is cool and all but when the bouts turn to wrestling I tend to lose interest. Maybe I should watch more MMA. I may develop more interest. This. I watch every boxing match HBO airs. Showtime never has any real boxers. |
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For me, the problem is that, these days, boxers win a couple of fights after having turned pro after a minimal number of amateur bouts and suddenly have a title gig. Few of them are actually boxers - fighters, sure, but not boxers. It IS, perhaps, all perception, but it seems like MMA has a more rigorous path to the top now. |
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Quoted: For me, the problem is that, these days, boxers win a couple of fights after having turned pro after a minimal number of amateur bouts and suddenly have a title gig. Few of them are actually boxers - fighters, sure, but not boxers. It IS, perhaps, all perception, but it seems like MMA has a more rigorous path to the top now. it's almost the exact same thing, boxing has like 10 different organizations with "champions", WBC, WBA, WBO, etc, same as MMA with all the different organizations UFC, Strikeforce, etc, with champions. Brock Lesnar didn't have any amateur fights and got a title shot in like 3 pro fights. |
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Quoted: I remember trying to lesson to a title fight on shortwave in the 70s (Rumple in the Jungle, Thilla?) with my father. I don't know who the current Heavy Wieght Champion is.  Not trying to follow boxing, but it isn't in the popular culture anymore  apparently there's 3 now: http://boxing.about.com/cs/rankingschampions/a/champs.htm HEAVYWEIGHT - (unlimited) WBA - David Haye 25-1 (23 KOs) WBC - Vitali Klitschko 42-2 (39 KOs) IBF - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) WBO - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) |
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I remember trying to lesson to a title fight on shortwave in the 70s (Rumple in the Jungle, Thilla?) with my father. I don't know who the current Heavy Wieght Champion is.
Not trying to follow boxing, but it isn't in the popular culture anymore apparently there's 3 now: http://boxing.about.com/cs/rankingschampions/a/champs.htm HEAVYWEIGHT - (unlimited) WBA - David Haye 25-1 (23 KOs) WBC - Vitali Klitschko 42-2 (39 KOs) IBF - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) WBO - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) ANd who are these three guys? And who is the WBO? Looks like they need to have a couple of unification fights again to get a undisputed heavywieght champion of the year. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I remember trying to lesson to a title fight on shortwave in the 70s (Rumple in the Jungle, Thilla?) with my father. I don't know who the current Heavy Wieght Champion is. Not trying to follow boxing, but it isn't in the popular culture anymore apparently there's 3 now: http://boxing.about.com/cs/rankingschampions/a/champs.htm HEAVYWEIGHT - (unlimited) WBA - David Haye 25-1 (23 KOs) WBC - Vitali Klitschko 42-2 (39 KOs) IBF - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) WBO - Wladimir Klitschko 55-3 (49 KOs) ANd who are these three guys? And who is the WBO? Looks like they need to have a couple of unification fights again to get a undisputed heavywieght champion of the year. it's all about $$$. Floyd Mayweather Jr and Marco Antonio Barrera both vacated titles rather than pay sanctioning fees, I think Barrera's was like $50,000 they wanted him to pay to defend his championship. |
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I don't know how anyone could claim that professional boxing is dead, when some of the top fighters are pullling down record purses. You don't see that kind of money being paid to MMA fighters. The big purses are because there are only a couple of decent boxing matches a year. Dana gets $50 a head twice a month. He's damn near got a monopoly, which is great for the sport, great for the fans, but isn't conducive to eight figure paydays for a champion who only fights once a year. And fuck Floyd Mayweather. |
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Quoted: Wonder why they don't use Quikclot gauze or granules? It'd hurt like a bitch but there's no boxing cut that stuff wouldn't stop quick like.Quoted: Why aren't styptic pencils used? Many use something similar. One substance goes by the trade name Avitene, which is also commonly used along with thrombin, Gelfoam, Surgicel, and others in both surgery and fights to stop bleeding. |
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"A cutman kneels beside the fighter. His hands dart into a blue plastic bin with a duct-taped handle, filled with the tricks of his trade: a bottle of adrenaline 1:1000, an open jar of Vaseline, towels, gauze, swabs that look like oversize Q-tips and two enswells—flat slabs of steel kept buried in ice. The cutman works quickly even though there's no bell to answer. He knows the fighter wants to be anywhere but here, seen like this. It's more than blood pouring onto the canvas. It's pride, ego, hope. The cutman's job is to keep those things out of the puddle forming between them." http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3688085 Adrenaline? Strong vasoconstrictor. 1:1000 is damn dangerous. That's what you use in cardiac arrest. I am surprised a cut man has access to that. 99.999% of the time, Adrenaline (Epi) used in cardiac arrest is only 1:10,000 - but it's given IV. 1:1000 is typically used SQ for anaphylaxis, or in this case, SQ/topically for it's vasoconstrictive properties. Much like Lidocaine can be used IV for it's strong cardiac/antidysrythmic properties - or SQ/topically/IM for sutures or procedures. It is a strong drug, but when not given in a way to interface with the body's systemic alpha/beta receptors, not a big deal. |
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The real question, is boxing dead? Mma seems to have killed it. As the original question has been answered, this is a worthy hijack. Yes. MMA is to boxing as Hardcore porn is to Cinemax. Although it saddens me, this sees to be the truth. RIP "Sweet Science"
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ppvbiz021510
Once Don King didn't refund me for when Tyson decided to bite ears off I'm done paying for PPV fights. Fuck those clowns. |
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The real question, is boxing dead? Mma seems to have killed it. As the original question has been answered, this is a worthy hijack. Yes. MMA is to boxing as Hardcore porn is to Cinemax. Although it saddens me, this sees to be the truth. RIP "Sweet Science"
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ppvbiz021510
Once Don King didn't refund me for when Tyson decided to bite ears off I'm done paying for PPV fights. Fuck those clowns. The fuck? That's quality entertainment! I'd be more inclined to ask for a refund for the many, many, many, terrible title fights paid for over the last 30 years. I want Richard Steele to personally cut me a check. Jab, jab, clinch. |