[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Herman Cain (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/6/2011 12:42:08 PM EDT
| How does Arfcom feel about Herman Cain? I kinda like him. |
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I think economic reform is the most critical issue facing America today.
Herman Cain is a former fed employee and a fed apologist, he supported the TARP legislation which was probably the most damaging piece of legislation enacted in living memory and he seems to offer nothing but the status quo on economic matters. Unfortunately economics is actually his strong suit, he's got some experience that should be helpful but he's wrong on the big picture so it's worse than if he were clueless. On foreign policy he hasn't articulated one yet, in the debate he sidestepped such questions. I actually don't have a problem with his reasoning on that but he's going to have to take a position eventually. He doesn't seem to have the solid grounding in economic and political philosophy some of his peers (like Walter Williams) do and his resume is extremely light for a POTUS candidate. Overall I think Cain is this cycles Thompson, though not nearly as strong a candidate. He really isn't likely to get enough support to make a serious run but he'll siphon off enough of the conservative vote in the early primaries to help get a RINO nominated before he drops out. All that said given the field he doesn't look terrible. 
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He gets my money and my vote so far.
I don't want to vote for a career politician as I believe we need a business leader with sound financial background that can get Americans through this depression. What we know of Mr. Cain - He is American born, he is very pro business conservative. What do we need as a nation during 2012 - 2016??? JOBS, Federal budget - possibly work on balancing it, entitlement reform, pro business growth, Obamacare problem, Czar and regulatory problems. CAN Herman Cain take these issues to task? Can he debate and win on these issues with BHO? How does Herman Cain stack up against other GOP candidates - Good, Great, Worse??? Supreme Court retirements coming up? He is very conservative....vs. other RINO candidates? He likes the Fair Tax vs. The IRS system we have in place. Seems fair we discuss this as a nation. He can make money and a proven leader in the business community - After completing his master's degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King – a Pillsbury subsidiary at the time – managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. He has been a lobbyist - CEO of the National Restaurant Association – a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry Understands the Fed Reserve - director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996 He likes doing some grass roots moves - Cain founded "Hermanator's Intelligent Thinkers Movement" (HITM), aimed at organizing 100,000 activists in every congressional district in the United States in support of a strong national defense, the FairTax, tax cuts, energy independence, capping government spending, and Restructuring Social Security TARP - Herman Cain supported the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bank bailouts as a way to save the economy, viewing it as an investment opportunity for the taxpayers. In a 2008 editorial, Cain wrote, "Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem."[26] In May 2011, regarding his TARP support, Cain said "I don’t have any regrets".... "I studied the situation. I didn’t have trouble with the idea; I had trouble with its implementation, picking winners and losers. I do worry about his history with the Fed Reserve, but I would imagine BEN B would be gone if he were POTUS. What has he written? What type of thinker is he? books I pulled some of this data from wiki. |
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Quoted: How does Arfcom feel about Herman Cain? I kinda like him. Arfcom likes him at the moment. If he starts getting popular and has a real chance of winning the nomination, the cool kids and the Moby's will start attacking him. It'll be something really important, like he went two weeks without washing his car back in 1991, got a word wrong in a spelling bee in 2nd grade, or some other monumental event. |
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Herman Cain is a fine man. I think he's far and away the best candidate out there right now. I'd love to see a Cain-West ticket(since I'm your stereotypical southern racist conservative right wing gun loving redneck.....) I kinda resemble that remark. The only negative thing I can see and it's not so much as negative as bad press I guess, is the media spotlighting the fact the republicans got themselves a black man too. And of course the opposite is true, if we don't support him, of course we're racist and they knew it along. Frankly, I just don't care anymore. I'll be voting for the best person who sees things along the same lines I do. But would vote for a discarded banana peel over Zero. |
| I think alot of people are interested in him simply because the field is so weak. So far all I have heard is the typical responses I expect from a possible GOP candidate, he hasn't really said anything that sets him apart from the crowd IMHO. There are alot of unanswered questions about him as well. Where does he stand on gun control, for example? Yea he has said he supports the 2nd amendment but so does every politican that ultimately ends up weakening it. I've heard alot of sound bites and not a whole lot of substance from him. I want to know who and what he truly believes in. That may be too much to ask of a politican though. As of right now I'll be voting for Ron Paul in the primary. |
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Quoted: I like Herman Cain a lot. I am somewhat suspicious of the fair tax and would not support it unless the IRS was disbanded and all payroll deductions on ALL levels were made illegal. Run Herman run. Part of the legislation says that it will not be enacted until the 16th Amendment is removed. He is my front runner right now. |
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Quoted: I like Herman Cain a lot. I am somewhat suspicious of the fair tax and would not support it unless the IRS was disbanded and all payroll deductions on ALL levels were made illegal. Run Herman run. Consider yourself a supporter. The Fair Tax does just that. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I like Herman Cain a lot. I am somewhat suspicious of the fair tax and would not support it unless the IRS was disbanded and all payroll deductions on ALL levels were made illegal. Run Herman run. Consider yourself a supporter. The Fair Tax does just that. Yup...hopefully part of his campaign is expressly spelling out exactly what the Fair Tax is and does. The antis to it misconstrue the hell out of it to make it sound like you're going to be taxed to death. |
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How does Arfcom feel about Herman Cain? I kinda like him. Arfcom likes him at the moment. If he starts getting popular and has a real chance of winning the nomination, the cool kids and the Moby's will start attacking him. It'll be something really important, like he went two weeks without washing his car back in 1991, got a word wrong in a spelling bee in 2nd grade, or some other monumental event. Ain't that the damn truth. |
I thought he showed promise until I found out:
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I thought he showed promise until I found out:
Yup another Liberal in conservitive clothing. 
Yea fuck you i said it. |
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I thought he showed promise until I found out:
Exactly how does his experience with the Federal Reserve hurt him? He has repeatedly stated that the Fed has problems. He did support TARP in it's original form, which was far different from what it turned into. Here is a link to his stance on affirmitive action. Please provide a link where he has made statements against the free market. |
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Quoted: The problem with the Fed is that it exists. If you don't believe that, then us going back and forth is pointless. Your beliefs and mine are fundamentally different.Quoted: I thought he showed promise until I found out:
Exactly how does his experience with the Federal Reserve hurt him? He has repeatedly stated that the Fed has problems. He did support TARP in it's original form, which was far different from what it turned into. Here is a link to his stance on affirmitive action. Please provide a link where he has made statements against the free market. This link hits free market and TARP. If he supported it at all, he was wrong. It doesn't jive with the stuff he's saying now. http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/flashback-2008-herman-cain-praised-tarp-chided-free-market-purist Your link includes this quote: "But the court gave the go-ahead to the University of Michigan law school to consider race on a case-by-case basis. This is very tricky. If it means that economically impoverished kids who happen to be minorities should get consideration for assistance, that's great. If that means that minorities get slots in place of white kids with better academic credentials, then that is not fair." That quote at the very least shows he isn't committed to true equality. That situation is not tricky. Race should not play at part AT ALL if he wants equality. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How does Arfcom feel about Herman Cain? I kinda like him. Arfcom likes him at the moment. If he starts getting popular and has a real chance of winning the nomination, the cool kids and the Moby's will start attacking him. It'll be something really important, like he went two weeks without washing his car back in 1991, got a word wrong in a spelling bee in 2nd grade, or some other monumental event. Ain't that the damn truth. The same divide-n-conquer trolls from 2004 and 2008 are working overtime now, and it's only going to get worse. And nobody says a damn word.
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I think alot of people are interested in him simply because the field is so weak. So far all I have heard is the typical responses I expect from a possible GOP candidate, he hasn't really said anything that sets him apart from the crowd IMHO. There are alot of unanswered questions about him as well. Where does he stand on gun control, for example? Yea he has said he supports the 2nd amendment but so does every politican that ultimately ends up weakening it. I've heard alot of sound bites and not a whole lot of substance from him. I want to know who and what he truly believes in. That may be too much to ask of a politican though. As of right now I'll be voting for Ron Paul in the primary. |
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Quoted: I like him so far. If someone appears who may be better for us, I may yet reconsider. A quick question for the "Fed is da debil" types: If the Federal Reserve is evil, and must be abolished, what should it be replaced with?  Nothing! The only way this works is if the gov is abolished or seriously dismantled and that isn't going to happen. The gov has a money addiction and the FED supports it. Like any addiction, the addicted will not change unless they hit rock bottom, admit they are helpless, get help, stop the addiction, and decide they want to change. Ask any addict of anything especially one that is in denial about their addiction. I do not see that ever happening. |