Posted: 5/21/2011 6:26:38 AM EDT
I posted a topic sometime back on the subject of close encounters with serial killers...was going to bring it back from the dead...but couldn't find it in the archives..
Anyhow..woke up early this morning with the science channel broadcasting episodes of some crime show. One of the episodes was about some killer in Florida...some sick and twisted shit!!! 
Must have dozed off during the show...but woke up in a sweat..thinking about an event I'd experienced in Texas north of Houston years back. 
The event: Was driving to Sealy Texas with the family..had left Oklahoma for Texas after work one day....and like 3:00am or so was still north of Houston on I-45(miles and miles of road construction at the time..slow going on I-45). Family was sleeping..and I was driving when a van came up on us and started fucking with me..trying to get me to pull off the highway...this went on for several miles...until I turned on my dome light..and showed the person/persons in the van my .45 pistol..this pretty much ending any interest they had of getting me to pull over...
Some years later it dawned on me that this could very well have been the 'I-45 killer'.. 
I googeled the I-45 killer..and not just a lot of info...mostly conjecture..and victims...nobody ever caught that I could find. I also didn't realize that these series of murders date back t the early 1970's! Also found my little incident didn't really seem to follow the typical I-45 killer method of operation..although my wife sort of matches physical descriptions of some of the victims...and it's possible the persons in the van had seen us earlier in the journey...and marked and followed us. Who knows.. For some reason or other..that situation didn't really scare me all that bad...I was awake..and had control...had a good sidearm...at the time I figured it was most likely some dumb-ass punks..or drunks..or both. The one that scares me happened when I was a kid..a neighbor lady was killed/mutilated less than a mile from our farm house. A vehicle had turned aaround in our driveway that night..after seeing my father peering from the windo to see who was driving in the yard. This crime was later attributed to Henry Lee Lucas/Otis toole..whether they did it or not nobody knows for sure..Henry confessing to about anything.  ...This deal scared the shit out of me..and the entire community.
I didn't see any indication anything has ever come of the I-45 killer case..is there any new developements on that deal 
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You need more smilies in your post.
Seriously, though, I've got a two degrees of separation from a murderer and sexual predator: I've got a buddy who works for the BCA (that's MN Bureau of Criminal Apprehension); he ran the team that caught Alphonso Rodriguez, the guy who killed Dru Sjodin. We go shooting together with a big group every summer, and a couple summers ago he told me the entire story. Creepy stuff. He said they found video footage of Rodriguez just sitting on a bench inside a Target, watching all the women come in. If he saw one he liked, he'd follow her around. They had all kinds of footage of him following Dru Sjodin around a mall, and right after that she disappeared. My friend also told me that they'd have found her body much more quickly - in fact, they walked right past it - but it had snowed so they didn't find her until the following spring. That was some heinous shit. Also, my ex-girlfriend's aunt was once attacked by a guy the cops thought was a serial killer. I guess this happened back in the seventies. She had come home from the grocery store, brought in a couple bags, set them in the kitchen. When she went back into the garage to get the rest of the groceries, there was a man standing by her car. He tried to grab her, but she slipped back into the house and locked the door. The man set about trying to kick the door in! She called the police, who told her to check all other entrances and make sure they were locked. When she went to the back door, he was there, trying to get in. About three minutes later the cops arrived, running with no sirens because they wanted to catch the guy. He was gone. The police were almost positive, based upon the description and MO that this was a guy who had been raping and beheading women around Minnesota. The women would always be attacked during the day, shortly after returning from some public place. The police figured the guy would follow them home from the mall or grocery store, and then if they were alone grab them and bring them into their own house, rape, and behead them. They never caught the guy. |
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My cousin was run off the road on route 81 back in the early 90's. I remember my aunt saying that they thought it might have been a bad pull over attempt by someone they thought was killing people along that stretch of road. Apparently the perp would flag women down and claim they had a problem with their car. He'd then stab them.
Unfortunately, my cousin doesn't remember what happened after her initial encounter where some older white guy with a long beard was trying to get her to pull over. She flipped her car in the median and woke up when paramedics arrived. |
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Didn't you post this in team? ETA: here is your original post OP http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1086564
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Jonothan Vick lived next door to me. He was convicted of brutally murdering one woman and was the boyfriend and last person to be seen with Heather Sellars missing since 2002.
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Interesting topic! I studied seriel killers in college for my Criminal Justice degree - their signatures, motives, their minds, histories, their victims, etc. of some of the most notorious through the years. The books I read were written by FBI and/or Forensic guys involved in these cases.
Anywho, one of the authors said that most of us have been watched at some time by a serial killer. There are many out there, unknown. Kinda creepy. |
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Not my story but told to me about three years ago.
My co worker and I live in Clay County Florida, just south east of Jacksonville. His son became a sheriff deputy in a county about an hour south of us, patrolling at night in the Ocala National Forrest area. This is a somewhat remote area. Small towns and communities and farmlands. He responded to a call one night and upon his arrival to a remote house he noticed the door was open and no one answered his notice or knocks. He entered and called for backup. What he found was more than 40 dogs hanging from the ceilings throughout the house. They had been tortured and mutilated. The only lights on in the house were televisions in each room, no signal - just the gray screen. The house was a rental but it was supposed to be vacant at the time. I told my wife about it and that we thought it must be a budding serial killer. My wife reads all of the novels about serial killers and her matter of fact response was "Oh yeah, they're everywhere". I came to realize that it must have been the budding serial killer that called the sheriffs to the house so that he could enjoy the attention of his works. He probably wanted media attention, but it never made the local news. |
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"BRB...I've gotta go to the gun store...somehow now a safe full of hate doesn't quite seem to be enough[/quote]
I don't know how to copy a quote correctly, but you made me laugh! It is scary to think that it could be true. Notice though, the author didn't say "stalked," he said we have been watched, or noticed. When you read of how many people go missing or are murdered, and if the crime is not solved, you don't really know what happened, or who did it. Could be a one-time murder, or the work of an unknown passing through. |
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I grew up with a guy who turned out to be a serial rapist and ended up killing a girl before caught. I never would have thought the guy was a sick twisted fuck. He lived down the street from us and was probably 7 or so years older than my. He used to play football with the neighborhood kids shit like that. I knew him most of my life but did not talk mush the last few years before he was caught do to me moving out of my folks house. He ended up raping like 14 women and killed the last one. If I'm not mistaken, they had him on the murder (don't remember how) and when they searched his house found a bunch of women's underwear. After DNA testing found out they belonged to the rape victims. He ended up pleading guilty to all charges in order to take the death penalty off the table. I hope that fuck is enjoying getting ass pounded in prison. Here's a link to an article on him http://www.vcstar.com/news/2001/Oct/5/sanchez-admits-rapes-killing-megan-barroso/ |
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Didn't you post this in team? ETA: here is your original post OP http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1086564 Maybe he wanted better/more responses. |
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Looking at it from a standpoint of statistical probability, the chances that your highway encounter was actually with the serial killer are vanishingly small.
But OTOH, anything IS possible. Tactically, I myself would not have switched on a dome light and displayed a handgun, but I'll leave it to your imagination as to how that might have gone south. I recommend reaching for the cel phone FIRST when you encounter a road rager/weirdo who starts following you. Report the situation to the 911 operator. Reach for the handgun if and when the S hits TF of course, but in the legal aftermath of a lethal force encounter, you want it amply demonstrated that THE OTHER GUY, and not YOU, was the aggressor/initiator of hostile action. Hence calling 911 first. And besides, the State Police really need to have a chat with that fucker, so if you don't report him, he is free to harrass or menace someone else. Glad you are okay. |
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One of the current Long Island Serial Killers dumped his bodies very near to where I live and one of the hookers disappeared from a motel near where I currently work. As soon as the reward gets high enough I'm dropping a dime on one of my former night shift temp employees. Joel Rifkin had dumped one of his victims down the street from where I used to work. |
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Didn't you post this in team? ETA: here is your original post OP http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1086564 Maybe he wanted better/more responses. No...just curious about the I-45 killer...and if I had a encounter with him/them. Serial killers is an interesting topic though....lots of info published...but doesn't appear to be too much improvement over the years in apprehending them. |
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Looking at it from a standpoint of statistical probability, the chances that your highway encounter was actually with the serial killer are vanishingly small. But OTOH, anything IS possible. Tactically, I myself would not have switched on a dome light and displayed a handgun, but I'll leave it to your imagination as to how that might have gone south. I recommend reaching for the cel phone FIRST when you encounter a road rager/weirdo who starts following you. Report the situation to the 911 operator. Reach for the handgun if and when the S hits TF of course, but in the legal aftermath of a lethal force encounter, you want it amply demonstrated that THE OTHER GUY, and not YOU, was the aggressor/initiator of hostile action. Hence calling 911 first. And besides, the State Police really need to have a chat with that fucker, so if you don't report him, he is free to harrass or menace someone else. Glad you are okay. Hmmm...don't recall owning a cellphone then..the device not the neccesity of life it is now....best I could have done was haul ass the 20 miles or so into Houston...and look for cops. The way it worked out was that the van trying to get me to pull over hauled ass out of sight into town ahead of me...guess I could've used the Jeep Cherokee to wash out the van...and tumble his ass down the highway.. 
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| I once dated a girl from Wichita who worked less than a mile from where the BTK killer lived. After he was caught, the police showed her and her family a crossword puzzle that BTK had made and sent them. It had her name in it several times spelled backward and normally. It also had her profession and company name in it. Her first and last name are both unusual so there's little chance of a coincidence. I've seen the puzzle. Very creepy. He was obviously targeting her. Thank God he was caught. |
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As soon as the reward gets high enough I'm dropping a dime on one of my former night shift temp employees. go on..... The day I interviewed him with one of my engineers, after he left I asked "So, you wanna hire the serial killer?" Creepy little dude, but reliable. Divorced. Problems relating to women. The other people in my Department nicknamed him "Johnny" after the Jack Nicholson "Here's Johnny!" scene from The Shining. For a while we had him on the day shift. One day he was outside at lunch by his car. The same engineer was coming across the parking lot. Temp waved him over and asked him to check out a strange smell in the trunk of his car. I've told my engineer on many an occasion that he has no idea how close to death he likely came that day. One day the temp said to me "So, I hear you grew up in 'X'" and named the town where I had lived until I got married. How or why he knew that I have no idea. He then proceded to ask me if I knew some other former resident who was a friend of his. When I told him I didn't, he said "He was a real bad guy. Raped and killed some old lady." He had also told me one time that he might need to miss a day of work because he got a speeding ticket and was going to have to go to court. Then he added "Unless I get lucky and the cop dies first." I haven't gotten around to comparing his time records with when the hooker disappeared from the motel near work. Yet. |
| My Dad was questioned during the Zodiac killings. There was 1 killing in Southern California that has been argued over whether or not it was the Zodiac. The girl was killed on the college campus where my Dad went to school at the time. He was leaving his GF's apartment and ran into the 1st cop on the scene. He was held for a few minutes, questioned and let go. |
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Notice how serial killers almost always seem to be white males? Not true. From Wiki: The racial demographics regarding serial killers are often subject of debate. In the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males, from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in their late twenties to early thirties.[10][11][12] However, there are African-American, Asian, and Hispanic serial killers as well, and, according to the FBI, based on percentages of the U.S. population, whites are not more likely than other races to be serial killers.[12] Criminal profiler Pat Brown says serial killers are usually reported as white because the media typically focuses on "All-American" white and pretty female victims who were the targets of white male offenders, that crimes among minority offenders in urban communities, where crime rates are higher, are under-investigated, and that minority serial killers likely exist at the same ratios as white serial killers for the population. She believes that the "serial killers are always white" myth might have become "truth" in some research fields due to the over-reporting of white serial killers in the media.[11] Some authors state that African American serial killers are as prevalent, or more so, in proportion to the African American population. According to some sources, the percentage of African American serial killers is estimated to be between 13 and 22 percent.[13][14] Another study has shown that 16 percent of serial killers are African American, what author Maurice Godwin describes as a "sizeable portion."[15] Anthony Walsh writes, "While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population" and that " [w]hatever the true proportion of black serial killers in the United States is or has been, it is greater than the proportion of African Americans in the general population."[16] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Notice how serial killers almost always seem to be white males? Not true. From Wiki: The racial demographics regarding serial killers are often subject of debate. In the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males, from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in their late twenties to early thirties.[10][11][12] However, there are African-American, Asian, and Hispanic serial killers as well, and, according to the FBI, based on percentages of the U.S. population, whites are not more likely than other races to be serial killers.[12] Criminal profiler Pat Brown says serial killers are usually reported as white because the media typically focuses on "All-American" white and pretty female victims who were the targets of white male offenders, that crimes among minority offenders in urban communities, where crime rates are higher, are under-investigated, and that minority serial killers likely exist at the same ratios as white serial killers for the population. She believes that the "serial killers are always white" myth might have become "truth" in some research fields due to the over-reporting of white serial killers in the media.[11] Some authors state that African American serial killers are as prevalent, or more so, in proportion to the African American population. According to some sources, the percentage of African American serial killers is estimated to be between 13 and 22 percent.[13][14] Another study has shown that 16 percent of serial killers are African American, what author Maurice Godwin describes as a "sizeable portion."[15] Anthony Walsh writes, "While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population" and that " [w]hatever the true proportion of black serial killers in the United States is or has been, it is greater than the proportion of African Americans in the general population."[16] How do you know the Klan didn't write that Wiki article? |
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Tag tag tag!!
My fiancee is a forensic investigator and they had a serial killer on the north side of town that was killing low end crack head hookers, he'd stab them and leave them in empty houses, counted over 10 victims IIRC and then one day the main suspect had a lead overdose and the killings stopped. |
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As soon as the reward gets high enough I'm dropping a dime on one of my former night shift temp employees. You're joking right? I mean, nobody would allow lives to be at risk over something so trivial as a cash reward for something they should do anyway. Yeah, you're joking. |