Posted: 3/17/2011 11:15:39 AM EDT
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I picked up a firefighter hatchet today, figure it would good to keep in the car trunk. What is the pointy end used for?  |
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I picked up a firefighter hatchet today, figure it would good to keep in the car trunk. What is the pointy end used for? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/capnrob97/DSC_1700.jpg Usually venting, ie poking holes in something or hooking it on stuff and pulling during restore/teardown of the structure( pike poles are better). We use ours say on like a car hood with an engine fire if we do not have a spike/piercing nozzle on hand. Honestly, a vent saw is the shit though, so axes are rarely used. We do take a hand tool usually an axe when we make entry and when we are going to the right we sweep the floor with it to find the vic if we can't see and there is someone in the home. In general, 9/10 times they are not used much anymore and instead they are used for entry as I said in terms of an escape tool. ETA: a hatchet that is not, a hatchet has about a 10-12 handle sometimes called a "camp ax." You are looking at an Ax there... |
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anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs?
Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall. |
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anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs? Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall. Got any video of that? |
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anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs? Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall. No we run scott and the biggest(tallest) structure we may come across is a 2 story residential home. That is actually pretty dang bad ass though. Have you done any training up at DPSST? |
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Quoted: Yep. Or, getting a bite. Quoted: I picked up a firefighter hatchet today, figure it would good to keep in the car trunk. What is the pointy end used for? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/capnrob97/DSC_1700.jpg Usually venting... I don't know about other departments but, in my time, we rarely used axes. Obsolete tool... at least, where I worked.
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anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs? Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall. No we run scott and the biggest(tallest) structure we may come across is a 2 story residential home. That is actually pretty dang bad ass though. Have you done any training up at DPSST? Two stories is plenty high to need to practice self rescue bail outs. Don't forget, besides the occupancies in your first due, your mutual aid areas might have taller buildings too. :) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Wow... technology. We didn't have any of that shit. anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs? Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall.  A good use... punch a hole in a wall with the pike end, then slide the handle in the hole and use it to split the wall open. Works like a charm on wood lath and plaster. BTW, hungrymonkey... did you ever do a single-slide off a hook laid on a parapet, with just a bunker coat holding it down? I didn't believe it would work until I did it.
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Yep. Or, getting a bite. Quoted:
I picked up a firefighter hatchet today, figure it would good to keep in the car trunk. What is the pointy end used for? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/capnrob97/DSC_1700.jpg Usually venting... I don't know about other departments but, in my time, we rarely used axes. Obsolete tool... at least, where I worked.
Yes basically they are way outdated. We use an ax if we don't have a piercing nozzle for car fires. The biggest thing we use them for is if we have to do something during rehab after the fire ie cut something. We do carry them for structures as both an escape tool and also for locating victims if they are inside. In fact its mandatory to have some type of entry tool usually its an ax. |
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anyone use the egress cord on the new MSA packs? Poke a hole in the wall with the pick, then slide the axe handle into the hole, clamp on and bail out the window. We trained with it. I didnt have much faith prior to the training, but afterwards I was impressed. Especailly after watching someone egress while hooked onto a pen stuck in the drywall. No we run scott and the biggest(tallest) structure we may come across is a 2 story residential home. That is actually pretty dang bad ass though. Have you done any training up at DPSST? Two stories is plenty high to need to practice self rescue bail outs. Don't forget, besides the occupancies in your first due, your mutual aid areas might have taller buildings too. :) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Actually you are right. I guess it would not be good jumping out in turnouts with an scba ouch. On a side note we had a guy with a heart attack a couple weeks ago. We rolled up and I was walking back to the truck stepped off the curb without realizing it and damn my back hurt. I need to bring this up (self rescue). |
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Quoted: Our Forcible Entry man carried a maul, along with a haligan and a bunny tool. Quoted: Quoted: Yep. Or, getting a bite. Quoted: I picked up a firefighter hatchet today, figure it would good to keep in the car trunk. What is the pointy end used for? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/capnrob97/DSC_1700.jpg Usually venting... I don't know about other departments but, in my time, we rarely used axes. Obsolete tool... at least, where I worked. Yes basically they are way outdated. We use an ax if we don't have a piercing nozzle for car fires. The biggest thing we use them for is if we have to do something during rehab after the fire ie cut something. We do carry them for structures as both an escape tool and also for locating victims if they are inside. In fact its mandatory to have some type of entry tool usually its an ax. Even our Roof man carried a maul. A freakin' sledgehamer just came in a lot more handy than an axe. (Having the roof at a high rise in our area sucked. You had a maul, a haligan, a hook, the roof-rope, and a bunny tool. You were praying the elevator was working, cause that shit was heavy.
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