Posted: 5/10/2002 9:05:30 AM EDT
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Hey its been a while since I've been around but I hope you guys can be as informative now as you used to be. I have opened my own sporting goods store and am working on getting my online store up and running. My problem, getting on search engines! Since when did it cost money to get a listing? I know its been a few years since I designed a page, but what the hell? Yahoo wants $300 a year just to list my page! WTF? Does anyone know any loopholes or have any advice? Jake |
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It started costing money because of competition, capitalism, greed, yada,yada, yada. Everyone wants their site ranked higher! Best way to have your site ranked hirer for free is while your building your site. The words you use to describe your business you need to use as the title in every single graphic. [b]"Repetition".[/b] These things called spiders come along and research your site. These are sent out buy search engine co. and its a software program they have. Your meta tags should contain as many desriptive phrases and words as you can think of. So if you have "sporting goods, guns and what not. Include them in the file name of the images, page titles, etc. Hell make a fake hidden page and repeat it a 100 times. I think they have caught on to that one. Well that's my take. If you want better results you will have to pay and network with as may companies as you can. Provide links for them and they you. |
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Get a program like WebSubmission Gold or Submit Wolf. Figure out what keywords would describe your site best, or better yet, what keywords would people type into a search engine if they were looking for your site. Integrate those into your site as metatags, ( I could show you how, but this forum would convert the HTML examples in actual code, so you wouldn't see it), run the submitter programs I mentioned like once a month or so (for starters). Many search engines value links, so get other pages to link to yours. Some search engines require manual submission, like Altavista. Do that, too. Also, if you punch in your keywords/search terms (say, you were selling PBJ sandwiches from Israel, type "pbj+israel" without the quotes) the search engine will come up with a couple of pages as results, click on your page, once it comes up, and often. This also helps somewhat to improve your ranking when done often enough. (site popularity) |
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I already have it meta tagged and a meta description. Here are my meta tags:knives,knife,fishing,tackle,paint ball,sword,movie swords,Galco,gunleather,sentry,sentry solutions,lubricant,protectant,collectable,outdoor,hunting,tsunami,jarvis walker,spidercast,cutlery,binoculars,optics,scope,BSA,simmons,tasco,leupold,bushnell,quantum,shakespere,fishbonz,silstar,nascar,dale earnhardt,throwing stars,ninja,buck,catfish,ka-bar,ka bar,camillus,frost,chipawae,mitchell,reel,united,pin-up,pin up,tactical,kissing crane,kershaw,ken onion,onion,automatic,speed assist,buck creek,boker,tree brand,case,columbia river,crkt,cold steel,spyderco,gerber,shrade,old timer,uncle henry,hen and rooster,victorinox,trophy,fishing,ammo,winchester,federal,ammunition,harley davidson,brass eagle,abu garcia,diawa,henckels,twin brand,zwilling J. A. henckels,solingen,virginia,grundy,breaks, interstate,park,buchanan,dickenson,wise,russell,county,lures,bait,line,sports,action,outdoors,fun,appalachia,on-line,catalog,secure let me know if you know of any more. Jake |
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Ya! Well here are a few more bizarre ones for you. Not trying to be funny. Use words like sex, girls with guns, and other things you can think of. People who stray into your site are potential customers. Some may not like this tactic but that's what it is, "A Tactic". I does work. And who cares if they don't like it. Its business. Some Christian companies have used it as a way to lure people in. (If they can witness to them for a about two seconds, maybe they will come back) Some books stores "legit ones" do it. And so on... Be creative ! Hire me I'll do it. Its part of my job description, kinda. |
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I think terms like uncle henry have to be in "quotes" to be recognized as one term. Check for the number of "allowed keywords". Some search engines ignore you, if there are too many. Also, do a Google search on "spider.txt", to figure out how to set up a file to handle the search engine's spiders. (I keep getting '404 spider.txt not found' in the access logs of my pages, but didn't bother to set one up yet.) |
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originally posted by Kar98 Some search engines ignore you, if there are too many. Also, do a Google search on "spider.txt", to figure out how to set up a file to handle the search engine's spiders. (I keep getting '404 spider.txt not found' in the access logs of my pages, but didn't bother to set one up yet.) Good point. They change quite a bit on how they search. Maybe a fake page with everything listed numerous times could still be used if you still had links to them but have them hidden. Having a page with no links to it was a trick for a while but they caught on to it. Just make hidden links and obscure their location. |
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Site traffic is another thing these spiders take into consideration. Just think if you posted on as many boards like this one, and all the ones you wanted to you would generate a lot more traffic. They calculate the number of hits your site receives. If you have a worthy company hosting your site, they provide an automated registration with most search engines. Just another thought. |
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Well as far as who is hosting me, I am using OLM. Mark at Sentry Solutions gave them a great recomendation. I did get a 100 search engine submission tool but I kinda worry that my "commercial site" will be rejected by the engines that want me to pay for their listings such as google/ yahoo. As far as frames go the site will be done in frames just to aid in navigation, navigation in one frame and catalog in another. My web guru is working on the layout as we speak. It just didn't seem logical to have the entire site running on a secure server when the shopping cart is all that needs to be on it. Keep the ideas coming though. Jake |
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Quoted: I already have it meta tagged and a meta description. Here are my meta tags:knives,knife,fishing,tackle,paint ...... |