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1/30/2011 12:11:37 AM EDT
because i like money and this shit is selling.
here is the rough draft of what i started tonight. rapper is an old friend in boise and all i have done so far is build a basic looped beat. it will progress and build up , will cut up the vocals andput them in where they make sense. but this will give you the general feeling of the song....
www.logixsr.com/vicgon/fub-firstdraft.mp3
ETA: if our listening on shit speakers don't bother
Update draft 2 clip



www.logixsr.com/vicgon/fub-second-draft-clip.mp3



ETA:

third rough draft. changed it up a bit.



www.logixsr.com/vicgon/fub-third-rough-draft.mp3
 
1/30/2011 12:20:57 AM EDT
[#1]
I like it. Feels a little rushed though and not heavy enough.
1/30/2011 12:21:44 AM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


I like it. Feels a little rushed though and not heavy enough.


rough draft. im only about a hlaf hour into it



 
1/30/2011 12:26:38 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm a huge electronic fan, but I tend to gravitate toward Trance. So it's not my style. I miss the Epic Trance of late 90's and the turn of the century.
1/30/2011 12:27:23 AM EDT
[#4]
i wish i was at home listening to it with better speakers.  but it sounds good.  
1/30/2011 12:28:24 AM EDT
[#5]
I love the sound of the bass in the deep background.

Sounds pretty damn good to me!
1/30/2011 12:33:26 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I love the sound of the bass in the deep background.



Sounds pretty damn good to me!


yeah t helps when you can ht 40-50 hz



 
1/30/2011 12:34:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I love the sound of the bass in the deep background.

Sounds pretty damn good to me!

yeah t helps when you can ht 40-50 hz
 


1/30/2011 12:39:20 AM EDT
[#8]
Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.
1/30/2011 12:39:36 AM EDT
[#9]
this does not suck.

i could see mixing it into a set

more rush, heavier drop but its cool!
1/30/2011 12:40:28 AM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.


check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done



 
1/30/2011 12:45:24 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:





Quoted:

Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.


check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done

 
Totally, I'm just throwing out my comments.    A big problem I have with "pop" music today is that it's all cookie cutter crap, no one really writes *music* anymore.  The songs could have been written by a series of FOR loops; no real depth too it at all. It's like pop composers have never heard of melody/harmony, counterpoint, or god forbid polyphony.  If I could hear someone rapping/singing a melody over two legit polyphonic melodies I'd probably shit myself.





 
1/30/2011 12:47:23 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.

check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done
 


can't wait.  i like your stuff.  gonna put the update in here?
1/30/2011 12:49:49 AM EDT
[#13]





Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.



check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done


 
Totally, I'm just throwing out my comments.    A big problem I have with "pop" music today is that it's all cookie cutter crap, no one really writes *music* anymore.  The songs could have been written by a series of FOR loops; no real depth too it at all. It's like pop composers have never heard of melody/harmony, counterpoint, or god forbid polyphony.  If I could hear someone rapping/singing a melody over two legit polyphonic melodies I'd probably shit myself.





 



I hear ya.  this is a venture nto pop but the looped beat is just the beginning.  I don't write monotonic repetitive nullshit f I can help it.  This project spawned uot of the top 40 techno crap on the radio and my rapper friend wanting to get into it for sales but I wont let it sit at the standard out there so far. I will raise the bar. I think those last two ends of phrases rhymed so that probably is a sign of good fortune





 
1/30/2011 12:50:04 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:

Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.


check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done

 




can't wait.  i like your stuff.  gonna put the update in here?
yep





 
1/30/2011 12:53:17 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:





Quoted:




Quoted:




Quoted:

Don't be afraid to change up the accompaniment, work in some real polyphony in there.  Solid melodies would help too.


check above. first draft .... only 30 minutes into it.   Shit will get full retard before Im done

 
Totally, I'm just throwing out my comments.    A big problem I have with "pop" music today is that it's all cookie cutter crap, no one really writes *music* anymore.  The songs could have been written by a series of FOR loops; no real depth too it at all. It's like pop composers have never heard of melody/harmony, counterpoint, or god forbid polyphony.  If I could hear someone rapping/singing a melody over two legit polyphonic melodies I'd probably shit myself.



 


I hear ya.  this is a venture nto pop but the looped beat is just the beginning.  I don't write monotonic repetitive nullshit f I can help it.  This project spawned uot of the top 40 techno crap on the radio and my rapper friend wanting to get into it for sales but I wont let it sit at the standard out there so far. I will raise the bar. I think those last two ends of phrases rhymed so that probably is a sign of good fortune

 
You've probably heard some of the electronica rap stuff from Infected Mushroom then.  They're probably one of my favorite electronic bands in regards to writing actually interesting sounding music.





 
1/30/2011 1:33:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Great start. Can't wait to hear the finished version.
1/30/2011 1:54:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Nice job.  Got a nice beat.
1/30/2011 2:01:20 PM EDT
[#18]
I like it.  Tag for updates.
1/30/2011 2:05:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Reminds me of MC Chris. Not bad.
1/31/2011 3:51:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Any progress VG? I got to hear this when you get it done.


Got any other stuff with similar basslines that you put together?
1/31/2011 3:58:40 PM EDT
[#21]
Can you post some in-progress bits? It'd be interesting to see how you change it as you build it up.
1/31/2011 6:17:33 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Any progress VG? I got to hear this when you get it done.





Got any other stuff with similar basslines that you put together?


I posted a crap ton of stuff sometime when i was drunk within the last year.



no progress yet.  busy trading. sill probably work on this on the weekend.



 
2/20/2011 9:28:23 PM EDT
[#23]
any updates?
2/20/2011 9:31:37 PM EDT
[#24]
not as bad as I was expecting
2/20/2011 9:32:36 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:


any updates?


yes. Next time I am working on it Ill export a clip. It's quite a bit better and different so far.



 
2/20/2011 9:33:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:

Quoted:
any updates?

yes. Next time I am working on it Ill export a clip. It's quite a bit better and different so far.
 


sweet
2/20/2011 9:35:01 PM EDT
[#27]
nice track

2/20/2011 9:37:09 PM EDT
[#28]
I like it, good beat.

ETA MOAR
2/20/2011 9:51:33 PM EDT
[#29]


What DAW(s) will you be using?












I am intimately familiar with electronic music creation

 
2/20/2011 10:06:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
rapper is an old friend in boise
 

Straight outta Bosie...Yeeeeeea Boooooooy.

2/20/2011 10:09:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Damn, don't know how I missed this thread before but that's not too shabby. I was expecting a rather harsh fail and I'm actually kinda liking it
2/20/2011 10:10:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Damn, don't know how I missed this thread before but that's not too shabby. I was expecting a rather harsh fail and I'm actually kinda liking it


vg gots skillz.
2/20/2011 10:11:48 PM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:



What DAW(s) will you be using?







I am intimately familiar with electronic music creation
 
Mostly cubase.



 
2/20/2011 10:12:38 PM EDT
[#34]
tag for later listening
2/20/2011 10:19:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Sounds good.

Hopefully I can eventually get you some vocals.

Maybe showing my buddy the finished song will motivate him to get me the files.
2/20/2011 10:30:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Sounds good.

Hopefully I can eventually get you some vocals.

Maybe showing my buddy the finished song will motivate him to get me the files.


Hey, still listening to a song from New Jack City Keep up the good work.
2/20/2011 10:38:08 PM EDT
[#37]
Stopped listening after 10 seconds. Don't quit your day job.
2/20/2011 10:41:19 PM EDT
[#38]
added second draft in op and here.



just a clip though.



lots more to do.



www.logixsr.com/vicgon/fub-second-draft-clip.mp3
2/20/2011 10:42:11 PM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


Stopped listening after 10 seconds. Don't quit your day job.


lol  it's not for everyone and I wont.



 
2/20/2011 10:42:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Stopped listening after 10 seconds. Don't quit your day job.





VG, i like how it has progressed.
2/20/2011 10:43:18 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sounds good.

Hopefully I can eventually get you some vocals.

Maybe showing my buddy the finished song will motivate him to get me the files.


Hey, still listening to a song from New Jack City Keep up the good work.


It's not me. My friend is the rapper.

I'll be sure to let him know.

Unfortunately he's been having some serious legal issues. I guess that's the price of actually doing what you rap about.
2/20/2011 10:45:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Dunno, I liked the first draft better, the second was way to noisey.  The cleaner sound of the first would be much better if you crossed it into Dub Step and put a serious sick drop in the middle then let him have a chorus with a hot chick singing.  Sick.
2/20/2011 10:48:49 PM EDT
[#43]





Quoted:



Dunno, I liked the first draft better, the second was way to noisey.  The cleaner sound of the first would be much better if you crossed it into Dub Step and put a serious sick drop in the middle then let him have a chorus with a hot chick singing.  Sick.



it will be much cleaner when finished.  I just kinda mash everything together until I have a structure I like and then the tedious task of making it sound good with editing mixdown and mastering.  there is too much delay on the lead which is mucking it up Ill probably shorten that and the decay on the instrument to tighten it up.  there is also a lot of distortion on it which I will automate up into the climax once I get to that step.





 
2/20/2011 11:28:02 PM EDT
[#44]
What MIDI controller are you using?

I need to buy a new one.  I just picked up Reason 5.
2/21/2011 12:18:15 AM EDT
[#45]
i just got the M audio oxygen 49.  It has some knobs and slides but i do most of my automation one track at a time so I didn't need one with a ton of knobs and shit.  



I have had it for probably five years now and beat the hell out of it with no problems so I wouldn't worry about quality with it.  geeks will try and tell you that you need some 800 dollar something or other but mine works just fine


Quoted:


What MIDI controller are you using?



I need to buy a new one.  I just picked up Reason 5.






 
2/21/2011 12:53:58 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
i just got the M audio oxygen 49.  It has some knobs and slides but i do most of my automation one track at a time so I didn't need one with a ton of knobs and shit.  

I have had it for probably five years now and beat the hell out of it with no problems so I wouldn't worry about quality with it.  geeks will try and tell you that you need some 800 dollar something or other but mine works just fine
Quoted:
What MIDI controller are you using?

I need to buy a new one.  I just picked up Reason 5.


 



Very cool.  I was actually looking at the O-25 as I doubt I'll need 49 keys over the 25 and I'm trying to keep my workstation small.

It's been awhile since I've done any beat making,  expecially anything more than playing around with F-Loops.
2/21/2011 5:47:04 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
added second draft in op and here.

just a clip though.

lots more to do.

www.logixsr.com/vicgon/fub-second-draft-clip.mp3


Why so short man?

I am disappoint.
2/21/2011 7:57:33 AM EDT
[#48]




Quoted:



Quoted:

i just got the M audio oxygen 49. It has some knobs and slides but i do most of my automation one track at a time so I didn't need one with a ton of knobs and shit.



I have had it for probably five years now and beat the hell out of it with no problems so I wouldn't worry about quality with it. geeks will try and tell you that you need some 800 dollar something or other but mine works just fine



Quoted:

What MIDI controller are you using?



I need to buy a new one. I just picked up Reason 5.










Very cool. I was actually looking at the O-25 as I doubt I'll need 49 keys over the 25 and I'm trying to keep my workstation small.



It's been awhile since I've done any beat making, expecially anything more than playing around with F-Loops.


just get the 49 or you will probably regret it later.  I did.

2/21/2011 9:15:04 AM EDT
[#49]
I like the first one much better.
2/21/2011 9:18:59 AM EDT
[#50]
I am going to have to vote for the first dub.

The second edit just sounds too busy. Just my opinion.
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