Posted: 1/10/2011 7:59:53 AM EDT
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Yet, I can't remember having read about or heard about them infringing on the rights of smokers or drinkers, ever. Is it because the general public like to smoke, drink, or both? Maybe there would be a lot more people looking to crawl up their ass and inspect their methods of doing things if they fucked with the average sheeple? FUCK THE BATFE! (going to hide my dog....) |
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ATF does a lot regarding smuggling and "counterfeit" cigarettes, too. |
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Quoted: Stands for: Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Yet, I can't remember having read about or heard about them infringing on the rights of smokers or drinkers, ever. Is it because the general public like to smoke, drink, or both? Maybe there would be a lot more people looking to crawl up their ass and inspect their methods of doing things if they fucked with the average sheeple? FUCK THE BATFE! (going to hide my dog....) You don't have a RIGHT to the A or the T, like you do to the F. So they can't 'infringe' on something you don't have. They heavily regulate booze and tobacco, however they only interact with the producers, not the users.... |
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Quoted: BATF was created under the Treasury Dept. as a tax collection agency. Now they're a law enforcement agency under the DOJ. Yep. I think when I got my first stamp the return address was Dept. of Treasury. You really don't think the government actually cares about anything regarding cigarettes and alcohol outside of them being inelastic goods (i.e. perfect for taxation), do you? |
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Mostly the infringement on A and T has been via taxes and age restrictions. Yep, and these are all imposed by the state. well, if you consider black mail a non-issue. how's this/ Hey TX, if you don't lower your speed limit to 55, no highway funds. (Some moron statist "see, the states did it, don't blame the feds") Hey, Ohio, raise your minimum age for alcohol from 19 to 21, or we take away billions in highway funds. See, it's the states doing it, not the feds.... 
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Stands for: Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Yet, I can't remember having read about or heard about them infringing on the rights of smokers or drinkers, ever. Is it because the general public like to smoke, drink, or both? Maybe there would be a lot more people looking to crawl up their ass and inspect their methods of doing things if they fucked with the average sheeple? FUCK THE BATFE! (going to hide my dog....) You don't have a RIGHT to the A or the T, like you do to the F. So they can't 'infringe' on something you don't have. They heavily regulate booze and tobacco, however they only interact with the producers, not the users.... just because a right is not enumerated, does not mean it does not exist. BUT WHEN TAX MONEY AND CONTROL CAN BE HAD, we'll start down that path of infringing on your rights.... TXL |
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I have a buddy in the ATF, he says that they have generally moved away from the A and the T which is now mostly enforced by the local ABC (Alcohol Beverage Commission). They mainly deal with Firearms and Explosives these days. Do not help them with the name change they do when irrelevance is coming to them via the recent election and the ones coming.Still is the ATF and not the batfe |