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1/8/2011 10:06:45 PM EDT
Made some lye today from wood ash.
I would like to know the approximate concentration so I can calibrate soap making, hominy recipes, and body disposal.

What is a cheap, accurate way to so this?  How did great-great-gramma make lye from ash and make soap with the proper proportions?
I checked it by tongue, and the stuff is impressively painful.  I would like something more accurate and less painful.

Second question:  Does anyone know the likely proportion of sodium hydroxide vs. potassium hydroxide in wood-ash sourced lye?
1/8/2011 10:14:32 PM EDT
[#1]
How accurate?  pH test paper will give you an approximate value but since it is a log scale the difference between say pH 11 and 12 is 10X.  You can get a little pocket pH meter for probably $50 or so.
1/8/2011 10:15:20 PM EDT
[#2]
pH strips.



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1/9/2011 8:34:33 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
How accurate?  pH test paper will give you an approximate value but since it is a log scale the difference between say pH 11 and 12 is 10X.  You can get a little pocket pH meter for probably $50 or so.



That's likely not close enough.
1/9/2011 8:50:17 AM EDT
[#4]
U can get more accurate pH strips.

Here's one example: shows in .25 increments.



Making soap can't be that precise. They did it long before electronic pH meters.


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1/9/2011 9:06:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
U can get more accurate pH strips.

Here's one example: shows in .25 increments.

http://www.drugscreensolutions.com/images/phstix/PhStixcolorchart.jpg

Making soap can't be that precise. They did it long before electronic pH meters.


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Right, that's what I am trying to figure.
It seems they estimated specific gravity using a float test.
1/9/2011 9:10:01 AM EDT
[#6]
get the test paper for the cheapest way, ph meters suck they can be very accurate but expect to spend 1000$ + for a good one the second best option (probably the most accurate but most time consuming) is to do a titration. I wont go into specifics but if done correctly can be very accurate.
1/9/2011 9:15:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Do it the fun way. Titrate that shit.
1/9/2011 9:17:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
U can get more accurate pH strips.

Here's one example: shows in .25 increments.

http://www.drugscreensolutions.com/images/phstix/PhStixcolorchart.jpg

Making soap can't be that precise. They did it long before electronic pH meters.


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There are also smaller range papers that are more accurate then the huge range of general type indicator papers.

Like herehttp://www.indigo.com/test-strips/ph-test-strips.html
1/9/2011 9:18:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Do it the fun way. Titrate that shit.


Hey, I'm no chemist; just a DIYer gone crazy.
1/9/2011 9:25:10 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do it the fun way. Titrate that shit.


Hey, I'm no chemist; just a DIYer gone crazy.


It's really not that hard. If you can get the measurements you can offload the math to us. If you have an accurate burette (or similar container), a graduated cylinder (a pipette is preferred but I doubt anyone who isn't a chemist has one lying around), a strong acid of known concentration (such as hydrochloric acid, nitric acid, or sulfuric acid), and phenolphthalein (a pH indicator) you can do it.